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Don't know much about it but if it seems to be fast-mimicking and used to prevent organ transplant rejections, and to treat rare lung diseases, and used in stents.
IDK man...

It's amazing that it helped that person's CFS. If it doesn't hurt anything else, that is great. They no longer care too much about health, so they can live.
Maybe that for a long time and consistent diet and exercise, then a year of TEI or similar would fix em (maybe longer, depending how deep set their issues are). Probably longer for CFS and the like.

Hopefully it is nothing like Fluroquinolones (I needed those after an accident), around my surgery in 2017. Or actually to help heal a wound... it was after surgery maybe months towards the end of 2017. It was months removed from fin, and any psyche drug, or anything. It further made me crash. This looks a lot better.

I am sure it isn't like that but be careful, people can't walk after that drug (fluros). Rapamycin might be good. I'd recommend the the minimal effective dose if tried.

Do you want to use it to speed up oxidation/ make TEI go faster? Taking on breaks from TEI?
 
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Don't know much about it but if it seems to be fast-mimicking and used to prevent organ transplant rejections, and to treat rare lung diseases, and used in stents.
IDK man...

It's amazing that it helped that person's CFS. If it doesn't hurt anything else, that is great. They no longer care too much about health, so they can live.
Maybe that for a long time and consistent diet and exercise, then a year of TEI or similar would fix em (maybe longer, depending how deep set their issues are). Probably longer for CFS and the like.
The guy who's rapa testimony I quoted had actually tried lots of health and detox protocols including mineral balancing, he mentioned he used to be on hackstasis in one of his posts but I dunno what his username here was... Anyway it seems like none of those protocols were that helpful for him but rapa did end up solving most his issues.
 

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That's good... I think fasting a long time could have done that too. Or carnivore. Seems to help nearly everyone with CFS. Fasting 40 days and tei would have gotten him there. Not all at once.
Whatever helps is good but I mean, many get better from CFS and crash. I never really crashed again, and owe that to fasting.

Electrolyte protocol too, but hey if this is quicker and he doesn't need it anymore or he uses it long term and it helps, then that's near perfect. We all have different goals. Some want no meds ever.
I want to be superhuman, some meds are fine. Orthomolecular and a stim for me or just TEI long for a time. People get confused and try too many random things. If it works for you, do it.

But to prevent other imbalances/ optimize you might find there's other stuff to do. Doing tei/ other vitamins/ minerals didn't feel like I had a condition end of 2018. I was better health than 99% of people on it or off of it. That fell not using it and with the lockdown and vax. We are all in different health states though.... and If I was as sick as I was in 2017, yeah I'd try whatever I can. To me, fasting was stronger than all. And electrolyte protocol was up there.

I am sure it made him feel 1000x better if it cured his CFS. If you can buy it/ get it prescribed that's worth a try. Just be careful with doses/ follow some sort of schedule (surely out there, and AI searches or Chat GPT can help you determine that). No singular cure exists (possibly for anything, even "normal" conditions.
 

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That's good... I think fasting a long time could have done that too. Or carnivore. Seems to help nearly everyone with CFS. Fasting 40 days and tei would have gotten him there. Not all at once.
Whatever helps is good but I mean, many get better from CFS and crash. I never really crashed again, and owe that to fasting.

Electrolyte protocol too, but hey if this is quicker and he doesn't need it anymore or he uses it long term and it helps, then that's near perfect. We all have different goals. Some want no meds ever.
I want to be superhuman, some meds are fine. Orthomolecular and a stim for me or just TEI long for a time. People get confused and try too many random things. If it works for you, do it.

But to prevent other imbalances/ optimize you might find there's other stuff to do. Doing tei/ other vitamins/ minerals didn't feel like I had a condition end of 2018. I was better health than 99% of people on it or off of it. That fell not using it and with the lockdown and vax. We are all in different health states though.... and If I was as sick as I was in 2017, yeah I'd try whatever I can. To me, fasting was stronger than all. And electrolyte protocol was up there.

I am sure it made him feel 1000x better if it cured his CFS. If you can buy it/ get it prescribed that's worth a try. Just be careful with doses/ follow some sort of schedule (surely out there, and AI searches or Chat GPT can help you determine that). No singular cure exists (possibly for anything, even "normal" conditions.
Yeah I'm still not sure if I want to try it not, I have major doubts about the safety of all these drugs even Rapa
 

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I felt fine using ru, ella tbh. Some head / hollow feeling but days/ weeks later I was lifting well (and that was either on or rite after refeeding a month, from fasting).
I don't know if this is way more dangerous seeming than ru or not, but I think people that reacted to meds were either not too bad or did drastic things like CD's a year or 2... or Fasting 30-40 days.

I think most people who tried RU, some it didn't help. Others did a lot of things, like RWAC, Tubzy.

I am sure RU helped set me up to heal... and helped CFS a lot. It helped me respond to food, androgens, sleep, all that. It helped me a lot. In fact I considered taking some RU every couple years in case things went awry. TEI should be better but I am not sure it'd be faster. RU made hormonal axis-brain work better too (or it set me up to do that). Pragmatism* whatever works, practically should be done. (safely tho, no crazy risks no insane drugs and not taking ru, rapa, fasting, rubbing dht cream, and doing tei, and progesterone cream at once).
 

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I felt fine using ru, ella tbh. Some head / hollow feeling but days/ weeks later I was lifting well (and that was either on or rite after refeeding a month, from fasting).
I don't know if this is way more dangerous seeming than ru or not, but I think people that reacted to meds were either not too bad or did drastic things like CD's a year or 2... or Fasting 30-40 days.

I think most people who tried RU, some it didn't help. Others did a lot of things, like RWAC, Tubzy.

I am sure RU helped set me up to heal... and helped CFS a lot. It helped me respond to food, androgens, sleep, all that. It helped me a lot. In fact I considered taking some RU every couple years in case things went awry. TEI should be better but I am not sure it'd be faster. RU made hormonal axis-brain work better too (or it set me up to do that). Pragmatism* whatever works, practically should be done. (safely tho, no crazy risks no insane drugs and not taking ru, rapa, fasting, rubbing dht cream, and doing tei, and progesterone cream at once).
What are Ru, Ella I've seen them mentioned here before but I don't know what they do.
 

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Ru486 ... ellaone .
they are glutacorticoid receptor antagonists I think. GR.
They also affect mineral corticoid receptors.
And I think AR (Androgen receptors), maybe ER (estrogen receptors), down the line.

They are major.

people used em to recover from psychiatric medication damage (I mean even 5-10-20 meds. Psyche med abuse can be insane. Abusive prescriptions).

study from google scholar shows repair in HTPA and HPA (?, both I guess).

Minerals are obviously safe and powerful and above hormones. FASTING is powerful cuz of them and so are electrolyte protocol and Ru486. TEI.

Fasting downregs a lot of receptors, upregulates stress hormones (cortisol etc). Ru486 may lower cortisol, I think so maybe not. Helped brain-penis connection, motivation, getting back to the gym after severe severe disability, pre water fasting. helped me respond to the electrolyte protocol I used every couple weeks to lock in gains. Or I mean I used it all year and after each intervention I did.

I am sure I faltered and forgot about it and TEI at some point in 2019 quarter 2 or 3 and then 2020 it was like an old thing that I probably didn't know/ need to do anymore but I wondered.

Electrolyte protocol/ heavy lifting/ amazing diet even if it changes... 4-6mo and tei 1 year can help people be better than ever. RU helped me set self up to heal. ELLA did good stuff too but maybe ru was better, it seems stronger. I took more than what others did and was fine. Same with randro/4andro end of cycle I took a lot. 4-7 pills or something. I'd follow guidelines tho.

They are also anti progesterone/ abortion drugs. Helped save my life so fuck it. safe.
 
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Ru486 ... ellaone .
they are glutacorticoid receptor antagonists I think. GR.
They also affect mineral corticoid receptors.
And I think AR (Androgen receptors), maybe ER (estrogen receptors), down the line.

They are major.

people used em to recover from psychiatric medication damage (I mean even 5-10-20 meds. Psyche med abuse can be insane. Abusive prescriptions).

study from google scholar shows repair in HTPA and HPA (?, both I guess).

Minerals are obviously safe and powerful and above hormones. FASTING is powerful cuz of them and so are electrolyte protocol and Ru486. TEI.

Fasting downregs a lot of receptors, upregulates stress hormones (cortisol etc). Ru486 may lower cortisol, I think so maybe not. Helped brain-penis connection, motivation, getting back to the gym after severe severe disability, pre water fasting. helped me respond to the electrolyte protocol I used every couple weeks to lock in gains. Or I mean I used it all year and after each intervention I did.

I am sure I faltered and forgot about it and TEI at some point in 2019 quarter 2 or 3 and then 2020 it was like an old thing that I probably didn't know/ need to do anymore but I wondered.

Electrolyte protocol/ heavy lifting/ amazing diet even if it changes... 4-6mo and tei 1 year can help people be better than ever. RU helped me set self up to heal. ELLA did good stuff too but maybe ru was better, it seems stronger. I took more than what others did and was fine. Same with randro/4andro end of cycle I took a lot. 4-7 pills or something. I'd follow guidelines tho.

They are also anti progesterone/ abortion drugs. Helped save my life so fuck it. safe.
Sounds very promising, I am intrigued... Maybe that would be better for me to try than 4Andro
 

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Can't find the study but a 22 or 27 maybe year old woman ruined by psyche drugs, this stuff helped her a lot. That and studies I read made me do it.
I fasted all of Jan 18 to Feb 18 or so.

and I used RU486 I guess in March 10-14 days after refeed (used it early, this is kind of risky but I was eager to live life again). I also used HCl too early acc to most but my results destroyed most.
I am not being cocky, I am humble and clearly other health stuff can happen (as per trying to solve mostly other stuff still).

WISH I kept and printed PM's to Tubzy and IHATE fin back then, I made my plan (planning esp serious shyt like this, outside of workaholism/ studying is BRUTAL with major ADHD/and i guess Autism).

Anyways, that is why I summarized in my second log: 1. Water Fasting. 2. Helen's Electrolyte Protcool 3. TEI. --androgens, other stuff, ru486 and an excellent diet and exercise routine.
I printed this and kept it with my insurance and other stuff, some random finance files. SO it must be important, I did that on TEI in 2018 Sept or October.
--in one message.

-read these on google scholar, you probably need some digital library access tho.

Sucks lots of these are rat studies but it is a long studied drug.


there's lots there,

endoplasmic reticulum stress in chronic restraint stress challenged rats
L Dong, S Wang, Y Li, Z Zhao, Y Shen, L Liu… - Cellular Physiology and …, 2017 - karger.com
… are possible causes for psychiatric disorders. RU486 can significantly ameliorate abnormal
behaviors in CRS-induced anxiety model rats. The protective effects of RU486 could be …
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Possible use of glucocorticoid receptor antagonists in the treatment of major depression: preliminary results using RU 486.
BE Murphy, D Filipini, AM Ghadirian - Journal of Psychiatry and …, 1993 - ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
… Four patients with chronic severe depression whowere resistant to conventional therapies
were given RU 486 (200 mg/day) for periods up to eight weeks. Substantial levels of RU 486 …
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[HTML] RU486 mitigates hippocampal pathology following status epilepticus
AC Wulsin, JP Herman, SC Danzer - Frontiers in Neurology, 2016 - frontiersin.org
… suggesting that the actions of RU486 may be specific to the pathological, high corticosterone
environment (31). This specificity reflects the ability of RU486 to preferentially bind the GR …
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Glucocorticoids may initiate Alzheimer's disease: a potential therapeutic role for mifepristone (RU-486)
V Dhikav, KS Anand - Medical hypotheses, 2007 - Elsevier
… Based upon available evidence, there is a potential to use glucocorticoid receptor antagonist
eg mifepristone (RU-486) as a preventive means in AD; especially for those at risk or with …
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Protection Against Oxidative Stress‐induced Neuronal Cell Death‐A Novel Role for RU486
C Behl, T Trapp, T Skutella… - European Journal of …, 1997 - Wiley Online Library
… Cells were replated and dexamethasone, progesterone and RU486 added. Twenty … of
RU486 against oxidative stress-induced degeneration of neurons, we studied the role of RU486 in …
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Mifepristone attenuates depression-like changes induced by chronic central administration of interleukin-1β in rats
YP Zhang, HY Wang, C Zhang, BP Liu, ZL Peng… - Behavioural brain …, 2018 - Elsevier
… In the present study, neither IL-1β nor RU486 affected the expression of Trk B, while
RU486 treatment reversed the IL-1β-induced increase in p75 expression. It is known that the …
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Antifertility actions of the progesterone antagonist RU 486 include direct inhibition of placental hormone secretion
C Das, KJ Catt - The Lancet, 1987 - Elsevier
… administered to women during early pregnancy,6 RU 486 … that RU 486 causes complete
abortion in 85 of 100 women when given within 10 days of the missed menstrual period. RU 486 …
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Selective progesterone receptor modulators 3: use in oncology, endocrinology and psychiatry
G Benagiano, C Bastianelli, M Farris - Expert opinion on …, 2008 - Taylor & Francis
… in vitro effect of mifepristone (RU 486), the best known SPRM, … growth-inhibitory effects of
RU 486 on human breast cancer cell … As a matter of fact, RU 486 inhibits total protein synthesis …
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Mifepristone (RU486): a review
DK Mahajan, SN London - Fertility and sterility, 1997 - Elsevier
… of RU486 in the mid and late follicular phase reduced serum LH and FSH (17). Doses of
RU486 … The addition of 5-10 mg of P during RU486 treatment reversed the effects of RU486 at …
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I told people as best as I could: without fasting, ru, electrolyte protocol, I wouldn't have had rapid progress.
BUT fasting, ru, tei could have been almost as good.

I think things were fast for me after water fasting because of electrolyte protocol and I didn't follow the best recommendations for the electrolytes u have to make, eventually i used other ones, the diet and simplified i did everyday tho for like 250-300 days maybe longer... TEI was going into the next year and yeah I mean btc was 5k- and I had to focus on my LSAT.

I cancelled my exam after barely getting to know my NEW ADHD doc. WHO Said I PROBABLY HAVE PTSD of a sort, before confirming what I knew and treated with one of the only docs I like (ADHD) back in Toronto... pre getting sick with PFS and moving here. -- anyways the closed/ shutdown and surely if it wasn't only about exam and then hEDS our discussions and stuff, he would have said treat Autism/ ptsd more. He said get a therapist. I tried, they were mostly wack and I can't trust people and most therapists... and the offices looked bad. But* yeah that's part of the problem.

A gf and a sick job can beat most therapy anyways but yeah you need permanent stability, I will work on that maybe get online counselling but I think it'd be better after MDMA (and the like) and after more TEI.

--if I could just take test cream, dex, occasional RU and a clean diet (spinach,him pink sea salt, meat, rice and the like.. simplified electrolyte protocol (worked for me my hair tests were pretty good)0... then I may.

--but probably... fasting and tei make more sense. ALSO I didn't swim in the ocean while fasting that would be even better I think.
Do what you can.

-i don't smoke now but I vaped on many fasts.
-- i did smoke a bit then (curing pfs is pretty fucking stressful, let alone when ur really sick with it).

Some vision stuff, visual snow (not nearly as bad as it was at times). I can tell that is from hEDS and hypermobility/ and that is related to autism, adhd, anxiety for like ev1 who has it (or anxiety, aspergers, etc. ppl with more severe conn. tissue disorders have more severe problems. hEDS is kind of the most minor EDS but still).

If I don't have EDS, it is something just like it but in my genes perhaps. IDK I did look young for my age at times but I think mostly diet and exercise and actually being young bc lack life exp. Seeming like a 22 year old at 27 ( a mature proper 22 year old but still less life exp than what a 27 yr old should or usually has).

I think joint pain, arthritis , and maybe even injury healing will happen on TEI. At the same time.. i mean the rite androgens/ id be fitter than 95% of ppl and increasing over time again... but
maybe to keep it forever, I NEED TEI or electrolyte protocol.

I think RU >>> Rapamycin for most ppl. I will read your first post... I don't know if u have had CFS a long long time... or if it was from FIN mostly. I think the latter.
 

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Get a girl to get you ellaone. or use a machine maybe?? or walk in pharmacy.

get RU from maybe 24hourmedline or medline24 or goldpharma.. check sources on this site. those may be gone.

UK you may be able to order ellaone online. RU486 is better tho it hits more receptors. Ellaone is pretty good too and I feel maybe safer. They were both good.

THESE literally helped reverse PFS and lock in gains. I just think fasting, electrolyte protocol are even better... and helped me lock in gains a lot (Snapback and all that).

I feel TEI is also great... I just feel like I am behind on that but it is always going to be challenging to heal. My "healing" was just fitness and vitamins/minerals back then tho, by that time I was on TEI.

I felt more and more "formerly ill", "I had an insane illness" as 2019 went on and I moved out Feb... but yeah I needed to keep doing TEI. It would have cured all. Now I am sure it would too but it may take longer. I mean it did and does because it is years later, but maybe 1-2 years there = perfect and moreso than I ever thought, just like I felt end of 2018.... mostly. But mental stuff gone/ that's be great.

I did all that and ru first. Careful with it tho. It did hurt one person here maybe more elsewhere. I'm happy I took it.
 
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Guys I have a lot of answers to give you but I AM LITERALLY BLOCKED, THE SERVER KEEPS GIVING ME ERRORS. If you use Telegram let's create a group and try to write there so you can help me and we can also exchange files faster. Write to me because I can't even create private messages.
 

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Cannot paste, or even post? can you put into clipboard and post? or paste as normal text, or something.
I often have difficulty writing at all on here too or posting. Mostly because of something I attach (Like in the crypto thread), but even links I post.

I forgot that it doesn't even work your PM's. I think I wrote Tubzy, like you wanted me to... I apologize if I didn't bro.

I wrote him. I thought I did before, I may not have. I just got distracted/ been depressed, if I didn't. I messaged him now on PM.
 
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This morning (it's 9:21 AM in my country) it works and I managed to answer you in your log. I apologize if I invaded your space but I took advantage that the server seems to be working. I have bad feelings, of dejavu and I feel like I have become old with this blocked acetylcholinesterase, Low methylation, Low oxidation, no dopamine and serotonin, absent breathing, heart 42 beats per minute.
 

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Sounds very promising, I am intrigued... Maybe that would be better for me to try than 4Andro
Yeah man.. see my file recovery stuff has stuff I did in order. I will post on my log.

You can take it after but I sayy it makes more sense to take ru486 pre 4andro. And 4andro is just a prohormones that converts to Test and lowers cortisol (4DHEA). Taking it with Randro should be best.
I actually got some of the newer ones and gear cream by IML. That and sarms I threw away because of fears/memories of PFS is like 2000 CAD maybe more. I kept some randro and ALPHA 4 by some other company. They are amazing. I didn't take full cycles but these seem almost as good as test cream. I feel like I was going backwards or something perhaps, but I think those are worth a try. I may buy again.

I just think, maybe that is wishful, test cream would be better for me.

I did keep all my test, nolvadex, cialis, anavar etc. And some rad some other peptides (the c one that helps people with cardio). I barely used and I am getting more mileage out of carnivore. Maybe I threw them so I can fix hEDS or work on that (I didn't throw my expensive nice braces nor athletic taping thank God). I should have kept it all in a fridge for even after I am better and healthier... Look ripped and stay ripped get to 205 lean instead of 192 lean like last time. Ah well.

Anyways this all reminded me of that (I had those in 2022 or 2023 I bought all that but HCG, test cream makes more sense). Just starting PFS recovery, randro/4andro make more sesnse. Test didn't work for that many people. I kind of wanted to, to lessen injuries from hEDS and also to see if it helps mood. BUT I am sure test cream is better for me and most ppl with PFS that it works for (which unfortunately doesn't seem t be that many people. IT isn't zero tho, maybe it is 10-20% or so, maybe fixing protocol or taking with progesterone is).

BUT ru486 maybe 20mg a day or 10mg a day for 2 weeks and then herbs.. and then after 6 weeks or so, randro/4andro (transdermal especially) should be strong.
U can always go get a test cream prescription if these things fail. They'll help tho a lot.
I actually think test cream would be great for me. DHT up, 5ar up, anxiety, mood, confidence. that and ADHD treated and some minerals (trial and error and add some to detox), I'd be good to go.

BUT I think total health, ... mineral balancing and the longer haul will have more health benefits. I won't slip up.. and It would help me with mental things too. I am willing to
--keep trying carnivore., tei soon, and test cream/test prop before or after that. After probably.

I don;t think dex, or test cream are gonna help trauma/ autism a ton... I think tei can and psychedelics down the line (kind of far at this point) can.

You seem pretty sane. SO I don't think test cream would hurt you, I just think ru486 will 90% chance help you and randro/4andro later like 80%, and 10-12 of the herbs in TMO maybe 75-80% with lifting a lot.
Shed hair on the herbs and randro/4andro a bit. Some herbs I shed a lot actually. But yeah getting fit and back to life was of course worth that. I am just saying that's a sign of 5AR conversion and DHT increasing. Maybe no 5AR conversion, R-Andro bypasses that, IIRC. More DHT.

--fasting --> ru486 --> randro / 4andro --> tei
or like you're doing --tei --> ru486 --> randro/4andro. and to really speed it up maintain tei diet while using ru486 , and randro/4andro... or electrolyte protocol diet.

I locked in gains with the electrolyte protocol at every step. Life got hectic otherwise I'd have maintained that and TEI I think for a couple more years. I will get on TEI soon tho.

I had the simplified version most of the time (like a box of spinach/ 250 500grams or something, himalayan pink sea salt, rice/carbs , meat, some cooked veggies at times in addn to spinach or instead.

I like arugula and spinach best but there's many options, I believe. I talked about a lot of stuff but to your point, ru486 should make 4-andro and r-andro work better and not be used instead of it.

LIke fasting, if done rite... ru will make all your other protocol choices work better. It did for me. Above are some schematics you can try but if you are happy with your current plan, please stick to it.
 
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Yeah man.. see my file recovery stuff has stuff I did in order. I will post on my log.

You can take it after but I sayy it makes more sense to take ru486 pre 4andro. And 4andro is just a prohormones that converts to Test and lowers cortisol (4DHEA). Taking it with Randro should be best.
I actually got some of the newer ones and gear cream by IML. That and sarms I threw away because of fears/memories of PFS is like 2000 CAD maybe more. I kept some randro and ALPHA 4 by some other company. They are amazing. I didn't take full cycles but these seem almost as good as test cream. I feel like I was going backwards or something perhaps, but I think those are worth a try. I may buy again.

I just think, maybe that is wishful, test cream would be better for me.

I did keep all my test, nolvadex, cialis, anavar etc. And some rad some other peptides (the c one that helps people with cardio). I barely used and I am getting more mileage out of carnivore. Maybe I threw them so I can fix hEDS or work on that (I didn't throw my expensive nice braces nor athletic taping thank God). I should have kept it all in a fridge for even after I am better and healthier... Look ripped and stay ripped get to 205 lean instead of 192 lean like last time. Ah well.

Anyways this all reminded me of that (I had those in 2022 or 2023 I bought all that but HCG, test cream makes more sense). Just starting PFS recovery, randro/4andro make more sesnse. Test didn't work for that many people. I kind of wanted to, to lessen injuries from hEDS and also to see if it helps mood. BUT I am sure test cream is better for me and most ppl with PFS that it works for (which unfortunately doesn't seem t be that many people. IT isn't zero tho, maybe it is 10-20% or so, maybe fixing protocol or taking with progesterone is).

BUT ru486 maybe 20mg a day or 10mg a day for 2 weeks and then herbs.. and then after 6 weeks or so, randro/4andro (transdermal especially) should be strong.
U can always go get a test cream prescription if these things fail. They'll help tho a lot.
I actually think test cream would be great for me. DHT up, 5ar up, anxiety, mood, confidence. that and ADHD treated and some minerals (trial and error and add some to detox), I'd be good to go.

BUT I think total health, ... mineral balancing and the longer haul will have more health benefits. I won't slip up.. and It would help me with mental things too. I am willing to
--keep trying carnivore., tei soon, and test cream/test prop before or after that. After probably.

I don;t think dex, or test cream are gonna help trauma/ autism a ton... I think tei can and psychedelics down the line (kind of far at this point) can.

You seem pretty sane. SO I don't think test cream would hurt you, I just think ru486 will 90% chance help you and randro/4andro later like 80%, and 10-12 of the herbs in TMO maybe 75-80% with lifting a lot.
Shed hair on the herbs and randro/4andro a bit. Some herbs I shed a lot actually. But yeah getting fit and back to life was of course worth that. I am just saying that's a sign of 5AR conversion and DHT increasing. Maybe no 5AR conversion, R-Andro bypasses that, IIRC. More DHT.

--fasting --> ru486 --> randro / 4andro --> tei
or like you're doing --tei --> ru486 --> randro/4andro. and to really speed it up maintain tei diet while using ru486 , and randro/4andro... or electrolyte protocol diet.

I locked in gains with the electrolyte protocol at every step. Life got hectic otherwise I'd have maintained that and TEI I think for a couple more years. I will get on TEI soon tho.

I had the simplified version most of the time (like a box of spinach/ 250 500grams or something, himalayan pink sea salt, rice/carbs , meat, some cooked veggies at times in addn to spinach or instead.

I like arugula and spinach best but there's many options, I believe. I talked about a lot of stuff but to your point, ru486 should make 4-andro and r-andro work better and not be used instead of it.

LIke fasting, if done rite... ru will make all your other protocol choices work better. It did for me. Above are some schematics you can try but if you are happy with your current plan, please stick to it.
Yeah I am super interested to try RU486 now but the hard part seems acquiring not sure where I can buy it from, the overseas online pharmacies don't stock it. They have Ella but that is very expensive 60 dollars per pill so not gonna try that. I also don't know any girls irl who would be able to get it for me and even if I did I wouldn't wanna ask them to get me that.

What kind of improvements/benefits would I expect see if I did take RU486?

If I were you I would swap spinach for another vegetable as its very high oxalate and those can accumulate slowly over years and start to cause issues.
 

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Maybe I will. Not having any veggies right now and yeah I never had or didn't seem to have oxalate dumping issues that I saw people report here, but I will keep in mind. I can swap to other veggies (on the approved food list) of TEI. I mostly used it cuz it was on Helen's Electrolyte Protocol. I can definitely cycle and use 3-4 veggies or more that I like. I will keep it in mind tho.

Also, Ru486 was used early on but can help a lot. It helped me restore a lot of things. I used it early o after fasting. I think it helped me respond to most things better. It helped reverse androgen insensitivity, and it it helped brain-penis connection, and the HTPA at large. It seemed to help my body and mind act the way they usually do, to diet, exercise, supplements felt strong. Randro/4andro, herbs etc all worked well.. It made some emotional switch come back on. I used it really soon after water fasting though. So I used quite a bit, electrolyte protocol (simplified electrolyte protocol mostly through diet, there was a page here it is removed though I think), and carb backloading, total male optimization/CD's recommended Herbs, and then Randro/4andro 6months later till month 8 or 9. Took a month off or more, then got on TEI maybe 9 months after water fasting. I did many other attempted fasts (Breuss was good, and juice feasting both weeks of) before water fasting (which was the best for me).

Yeah I hear you on not asking a chick to order that shyt haha, I was just saying maybe in some cases. I was thinking about it sometimes in the pandemic but I wasn't sure what to do. I needed more TEI I think rather than relying on any one medicine.
 

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Yeah I am super interested to try RU486 now but the hard part seems acquiring not sure where I can buy it from, the overseas online pharmacies don't stock it. They have Ella but that is very expensive 60 dollars per pill so not gonna try that. I also don't know any girls irl who would be able to get it for me and even if I did I wouldn't wanna ask them to get me that.

What kind of improvements/benefits would I expect see if I did take RU486?

If I were you I would swap spinach for another vegetable as its very high oxalate and those can accumulate slowly over years and start to cause issues.

Major effects. Maybe try getting it from an ENDO or Urologist... or a family doctor that you really have a good relationship with.
Online pharmacy and no explanation is often best. I think AZTEC got RU486 or Anavar prescribed. He is a medical professional too so maybe that helped.

My random endo I got, didn't help.

I think ru486 was like 450-550 CAD maybe more. And ellaone like 150-300. Checked source links here, some at least didn't work.

It is great for HTPA/ HPA fixing . reset. That is what the docs did with that Psyche patient (drug damage).
Also it is great for pseudo Cushings (PFS resembles and probably has that for many people. I think it did for me). And also for Cushings.

I am sure it can be found. If I had to rank things: Water Fasting 10/10 (or more), ru486 9.5/10, ellaone maybe 9.3/10. TEI maybe 9/10. electrolyte protocol maybe 9.5/10 (all with strength training a lot and intermittent fasting but fasting itself and various forms may not solve/ cure everything). Some medical cannabis near the end of recovery year one was really great.

Worst case scenario maybe continuing TEI and then using ru later. Maybe after one or two more cycles. You can get snapback and feel better baseline after you drop a few mo of TEI.
I hear retest in 4mo for Slows. I have seen some others do every 2mo here, but maybe mostly that is Fast oxidizers.
 

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Major effects. Maybe try getting it from an ENDO or Urologist... or a family doctor that you really have a good relationship with.
Online pharmacy and no explanation is often best. I think AZTEC got RU486 or Anavar prescribed. He is a medical professional too so maybe that helped.

My random endo I got, didn't help.

I think ru486 was like 450-550 CAD maybe more. And ellaone like 150-300. Checked source links here, some at least didn't work.

It is great for HTPA/ HPA fixing . reset. That is what the docs did with that Psyche patient (drug damage).
Also it is great for pseudo Cushings (PFS resembles and probably has that for many people. I think it did for me). And also for Cushings.

I am sure it can be found. If I had to rank things: Water Fasting 10/10 (or more), ru486 9.5/10, ellaone maybe 9.3/10. TEI maybe 9/10. electrolyte protocol maybe 9.5/10 (all with strength training a lot and intermittent fasting but fasting itself and various forms may not solve/ cure everything). Some medical cannabis near the end of recovery year one was really great.

Worst case scenario maybe continuing TEI and then using ru later. Maybe after one or two more cycles. You can get snapback and feel better baseline after you drop a few mo of TEI.
I hear retest in 4mo for Slows. I have seen some others do every 2mo here, but maybe mostly that is Fast oxidizers.
Yeah I found a cheap place now from an old thread on here so I'm gonna order when the place restocks on 26th august Abortion Kit: Mifepristone 200mg (1 tablet) + Misoprostol 1600mcg (8 tablets) | medside24

Ready to have my abortion lol
 

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Nice. I saw Tubzy's links and some weren't working. Good shyt. It was great. 9s and tens hit on me all the time the next 4 years (despite my social retardation). This definitely helped me regain LBM and low bf% and all that, mental connections, psychological health. But it was all cumulative and multiplicative. The sum of the whole is greater than the sum of all parts.

Fasting and ru you could say, especially fasting saved my life. I think minerals for the rest, but I will give carnv some more time and add my own minerals perhaps.

I mean ru --> helped herbs work and gain hella strength and cut and randro/4andro strength all the time. Primed to get jacked and cut after fasting. Ru solo no fasting for me, less helpful.
Can be really good for other people too.

Not sure about the fasting mimicking drug/ antibiotic but that may be an option.
If anything, things like licorice root etc may work better for a year or 2 after microdosing RU and maybe larger doses here and there (I did that, most didn't). electrolyte protocol too.

if u get ru.. and use it.. maybe run electro protocol and tei same time for like stronger faster results. BUT detox some days may be really bad. gotta go reclaim minus 1200 or so unrealized PNL.
as in ... come back up.. but it is ranging.

Felt horrid and undateable and unlivable 2017, and alpha af summer 2018 onwards. I'll get back on TEI but I think
--some ru486
--rite androgens (for me),
--and other stuff like electrolyte protocol would do what tei does too, in different ways.... Tei prolly better for long term connections w / ppl. defeat the anxiety and depression permanently and autism/adhd
--are way more manageable. found it mood stabilizing too.