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Do you live in Europe? Do they ship here too? What dosage was suggested to restore the axis?
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Yeah live in europe they do. Not sure what dosage is needed to restore the axis
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@Fazed22 I also live in Europe, if you want we can take it together. I would also like to do the hair test but I am undecided on which platform to use
Was ill with a virus end of last week/start of this week maybe it was covid i dunno but hadn't felt shitty like that for a couple of years anyway have recovered now. I then received someone else's grocery order instead of mine and it had lots of desserts, I didn't really feel like having any of them but in the end I was bored so I did end up trying two; this pistachio truffle gelato desesert thing , then these white chocolate biscuits which are supposed to be organic, anyway the first ice cream thing was fine, but the biscuits were giving me nerve pain in my legs yet I still ate them.. I don't think it is the sugar doing this because I was having a few bags of sweets earlier this month with no issues. So I think its either the iron added to the biscuits (the iron they add to wheat is a harmful form), metals in the cocoa butter, or AGES (advanced glycation end products) from cooking the butter to make the biscuits, or glyphosate and then having sugar on top of one of these things doesn't help either.
Anyway having this nerve pain/numbness in my legs again, prompted me to take some EDTA and it got rid of the nerve pain, plus also it made my head feel a lot clearer and nice compared to before and fit reduced my anxiety a lot. EDTA actually makes me dump metals hard I can feel it in my urine when its burning where as TEI isn't making me detox like this. Also felt TEI supplements work better after I took the EDTA so I have some metals blocking things. I wake up feeling more refreshed when I take EDTA too so I think it is helping with some calcification, excess iron or some other heavy metal or it can be helping against some pathogen too as it breaks biofilms. Only bad thing that happened from it is I have been having some headaches which I don't normally get but I had some calcium (goats cheese) and it seemed to help with the headaches. It's also good now that EDTA doesn't really mess me up but some years ago when my health issues were really bad any EDTA would mess me up like crazy and I think was because I was a lot more toxic back then and low in minerals.
Anyway having this nerve pain/numbness in my legs again, prompted me to take some EDTA and it got rid of the nerve pain, plus also it made my head feel a lot clearer and nice compared to before and fit reduced my anxiety a lot. EDTA actually makes me dump metals hard I can feel it in my urine when its burning where as TEI isn't making me detox like this. Also felt TEI supplements work better after I took the EDTA so I have some metals blocking things. I wake up feeling more refreshed when I take EDTA too so I think it is helping with some calcification, excess iron or some other heavy metal or it can be helping against some pathogen too as it breaks biofilms. Only bad thing that happened from it is I have been having some headaches which I don't normally get but I had some calcium (goats cheese) and it seemed to help with the headaches. It's also good now that EDTA doesn't really mess me up but some years ago when my health issues were really bad any EDTA would mess me up like crazy and I think was because I was a lot more toxic back then and low in minerals.
Also did an oligoscan too, (this was before I ate those desserts lol), results were decent, the low silicon, mag , high alluminium (this seems to show for everyone basically), I did have coffee that day of the test so it did make me anxious maybe that lowered my mag a bit.
My vitamin D is low and I kinda knew this as I felt like my vit D receptor isn't working properly but is this from vitamin A toxicity, mold or pathogens, or gbold said copper toxicity can cause low Vit D levels
Probably won't do another one though I think HTMA is better as the methodology behind how to manipulate ratios and levels has been worked out
My vitamin D is low and I kinda knew this as I felt like my vit D receptor isn't working properly but is this from vitamin A toxicity, mold or pathogens, or gbold said copper toxicity can cause low Vit D levels
Probably won't do another one though I think HTMA is better as the methodology behind how to manipulate ratios and levels has been worked out
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Years ago mate. I don't think it was a gram. I think it was one pill or 2 pills... I thought 200mg a pill. I got it from a Euro vendor bro. 1 gram sounds like a lot. I took like 15mg-20mg everyday for days... and then maybe 25mg and 30mg to finish it. Sometimes I took more (maybe to finish it off in under 2 weeks). I seem to recall taking the kit, and 200mg/pill. 1g for that price sounds crazy cheap lol but it should last years and years. If it is legit. I hope it is. I think I paid like 500 for one or two capsules.. maybe more. Or maybe I paid 500 twice and once it didn't show up??
I can't remember bro. I definitely only took 200mg tho in one. And I took like 15-30mg a day... and locked in gains with the elctrolyte protocol and then did herbs I guess, and then later randro/4andro.
Exact order is hard to remember, but I did post it on those notes/ my log too.
I can't remember bro. I definitely only took 200mg tho in one. And I took like 15-30mg a day... and locked in gains with the elctrolyte protocol and then did herbs I guess, and then later randro/4andro.
Exact order is hard to remember, but I did post it on those notes/ my log too.
Thanks bro. Mife is interesting but one has to be careful...
I know there was a crazy study for PTSD where they did 600 or 800mg a day for a week.
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I think after talking to Tubzy, I realized I should take like 7-8mg, maybe ten a day, and I cut back from 20mg. I responded well but the first day (and it was soon after the Extended Water Fast), I felt like hollow headed/ brainfog, confused at the gym. The gym floor moved due to water damage, in a big rec center... so it was kind of confusing to me anyways.
I moved 3000km and just got back to working out. Some of it was ru486 tho for sure, some brain fog/spatial probs. It may actually be EDS stuff tbh, but it was worse in PFS.
It could have been POTS, memory stuff, spatial awareness issues (consistent with Ehlers danlos but way worse because of PFS.. and then trying to lift). I did well tho but I remember feeling like this is dangerous. It got better tho everyday.
But I was getting lost in between sets. I mean I had just fasted after being bedridden/basically vegetative. I was not on ADHD medicine again for 4-5months and barely then. So I am sure lots of connections were coming back. Be careful working out on it. I did also megadose herbs, sometimes the randro/4andro (for max gains), and some other stuff (Food after lifting). I got away with it but I was kind of in a rush, and I don't think I'd recommend taking high doses just in case.
I think I took it 2 weeks and other shyt like it 2 weeks. Maybe ellaone was only 8-10 days and after. Should be early on in my log.
It has some great studies. I think instead of only some androgens working for me... or even those ones, maybe I could make them work near perfectly and take mife like every year or every 2 years or something. My fav study was the 27 or so year old woman that had major psychiatric medicine damage and how it helped fix her HTPA. That is another worst case, if TEI or something didn't work. I am sure I don't need to do this... but if it ever gets to that for me or anyone, that's an option.
I mean it seems to be able to recover psyche med damage, drug abuse, finasteride stuff. All kinds of stuff. Long run, some TEI for a year or 2 and then actual long run (forever) just a few minerals or a multivitamin and a good diet, would be best. And your fav type of exercise/sports.
Recently explained to close by family that I took the abortion drug and what for. Even non sciencey ones get it. The more risky docs kind of get it. Noobie docs are like "be careful", yeah I know lol. People are aware tho at least there are crazy health issues, (like those caused by healthcare) that "you're on your own for." So it was good to get that out.
I moved 3000km and just got back to working out. Some of it was ru486 tho for sure, some brain fog/spatial probs. It may actually be EDS stuff tbh, but it was worse in PFS.
It could have been POTS, memory stuff, spatial awareness issues (consistent with Ehlers danlos but way worse because of PFS.. and then trying to lift). I did well tho but I remember feeling like this is dangerous. It got better tho everyday.
But I was getting lost in between sets. I mean I had just fasted after being bedridden/basically vegetative. I was not on ADHD medicine again for 4-5months and barely then. So I am sure lots of connections were coming back. Be careful working out on it. I did also megadose herbs, sometimes the randro/4andro (for max gains), and some other stuff (Food after lifting). I got away with it but I was kind of in a rush, and I don't think I'd recommend taking high doses just in case.
I think I took it 2 weeks and other shyt like it 2 weeks. Maybe ellaone was only 8-10 days and after. Should be early on in my log.
It has some great studies. I think instead of only some androgens working for me... or even those ones, maybe I could make them work near perfectly and take mife like every year or every 2 years or something. My fav study was the 27 or so year old woman that had major psychiatric medicine damage and how it helped fix her HTPA. That is another worst case, if TEI or something didn't work. I am sure I don't need to do this... but if it ever gets to that for me or anyone, that's an option.
I mean it seems to be able to recover psyche med damage, drug abuse, finasteride stuff. All kinds of stuff. Long run, some TEI for a year or 2 and then actual long run (forever) just a few minerals or a multivitamin and a good diet, would be best. And your fav type of exercise/sports.
Recently explained to close by family that I took the abortion drug and what for. Even non sciencey ones get it. The more risky docs kind of get it. Noobie docs are like "be careful", yeah I know lol. People are aware tho at least there are crazy health issues, (like those caused by healthcare) that "you're on your own for." So it was good to get that out.
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Hahahha yeah, I know how it is.
I love these experimental approaches. And in the last year I've gotten to realize that in fact many such experimental approaches might be safer and more effective for these weird diseases.
But of course, you're literally on your own with that. However you're on your own regardless of whether a doc prescribes something or not. A doc can give you a SSRI and you get wrecked ... And then he basically cannot do anything. Rip lol.
https://uk.iherb.com/pr/arizona-natural-edta-600-mg-100-capsules/5729 that one, I didn't take much though just around 1-2 capsules a day, my brain did feel fried from the edta last few days like a high glutamate neurological feeling but I took some flush niacin today and it fixed it and I felt amazing.
I don't really trust Chinese sellers you could be getting anything from them
But I dunno how I can split up a 200mg pill in to 20x10mgs if @MNK99 saying that is the better dose
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I know it sucks. I wish my brother or little cousins or uncles or whoever (all docs) could literally just RX me things.
They don't get that I have like near perfect health (sure anxiety and stress up the ass but otherwise), for like 5-10 years before I get a doc.
Gov't and regulation boards would be on them tho... why is a heart doctor prescribing TRT (makes perfect sense tho), why's a plastic surgeon prescribing anavar or ru486. Lawyers and accountants deal with scrutiny but not as much as this.
My brother says if I keep looking around there are going to be HRT places that may pleasantly surprise me... and they can monitor HCG and do various test kinds, have most of what you need. IDK I will use UGL outside of this cream. My current doc is good and most my family docs (outside of family, but gen practitioners) have been good, but this covid nonsense and lgbtqery has really made it very hard to get good treatment. My fucking psychiatrist was great, they made him fear covid... then he was retired. This is idiotic.
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I bought a jewellery scale (just a small cheap one. digital scale like 50-100 bucks maybe hella cheaper from Chinese vendors on Amazon).
And I bought capsules that you can make your own pills from. I didn't use them much because it is too taxing with my clumsiness.
I crushed em with mortor and pestle or chopped it up like lines with a razor,... and microdosed it day to day. Eyeballed it.
Former cocaine use helped me measure it just by sight. Measuring is better and safer tho obviously. Note: don't use a saftey razer blade to cut up lines, you could hurt yourself.
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I think it was pretty safe... but ya not for everyone. I did the dose the true abortion kits are. If it is like 200mg... I did that over time. If it was 1 gram, I did that.
I would have bought more. It was hard to source, expensive.
Whichever doses Ihatefin and Tubzy did, I did similar. If Tubzy did 500mg-1gram I probably did as well. I just forgot and thought the mife and 2 other tabs kit (the other things being useless for us I believe), I thought it was 200mg, it may have been 500mg-1gram). Regardless be careful about it.
But I mean this is years later, I am trying test (mostly for my hEDS/HSD - connective tissue disorder). And I mean I am not crashing from that. ONE person at least here did crash badly from ru.
My extended water fasting, electrolyte protocol back in 2018, and clean clean diet and great exercise reigmen probably helped me avoid crashing (thankfully). I think ever, but possibly I went down a bit.. just having less DHT, or not locking in all gains forever, by quitting TEI. I am not suggesting test cream or test is for everyone. It may not even be for me,... but I think it could be helpful later, later in life.. or for my hEDS. Fixing up androgen receptors, mineral balance, etc.. it could be useful down the line. I am quite surprised and was only gonna do tei but I mean I inquired about it in 2022 and wanted to try it in 2021 and earlier.
I am saying you are doing decently, and I don't think it will crash you. BUT follow Tubzy's dosing schedule or possibly even safer if in doubt. And don't try to take like 200mg-500mg in one day.
I know you most likely won't do that. Just saying.
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I dont think those drugs work long term (the birth control thing). It does give some sort of change. But long lasting big changes? For me not. But worth a shot! Hope it works for you.
Hmm interesting, still not sure if I will try it, might try Andro insread but I went on holiday to mallorca spain this week with a friend and I am just too beta around girls and stuff atm, also eating restaurant food did fuck me up at times compared to what the organic food I normally eat at home. I do wanna fix things so I'm able to eat whatever I want with no issues
@MNK99 did you have long term effects from ru486 or 4andro?
Did this biomesight microbiome test said that I have high e coli which was surprising, plugged my results on microbiome prescription and it said my results suggests significant biofilm forming taxa and also possible d lactic acidosis.
I have too much of this Faecalibacterium prausnitzii bacteria it is a good species not a bad one but it is also part of the Clostridiales class which are linked to autism, when I did GI360 gut test years ago said I had overgrowth of Ruminococcus gnavus which is also a type of Clostridia Clostridia Bacteria & the Link to ASD Behavior & Neurodevelopmental Problems | Sunrise Functional Medicine
You don't really an overgrowth of any bacteria or it can cause issues
I'm still unsure what I think about gut flora I do kinda agree with Gbold that is protective and adapting to your current biochemistry but also a chronic infection of bad bacteria or fungi will affect you metabolism. And it is also true if bile is flowing strongly then these pathogens won't be able to grow as bile is a very strong antimicrobial
Helen on E coli :
"he is an obivous slow oxidizer which is why he is helped by k2. which is not a problem in CFS
slow oxidizers actually have high e coli which makes tons of k2. and fast oxidizers have low e coli ,since they dont need k2.
since slow oxidziers have calcium activation problem with brain copper TOXICITY.
or gaba overexpression. or infection in the gut activatiing phospholipase A2"
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I have too much of this Faecalibacterium prausnitzii bacteria it is a good species not a bad one but it is also part of the Clostridiales class which are linked to autism, when I did GI360 gut test years ago said I had overgrowth of Ruminococcus gnavus which is also a type of Clostridia Clostridia Bacteria & the Link to ASD Behavior & Neurodevelopmental Problems | Sunrise Functional Medicine
You don't really an overgrowth of any bacteria or it can cause issues
I'm still unsure what I think about gut flora I do kinda agree with Gbold that is protective and adapting to your current biochemistry but also a chronic infection of bad bacteria or fungi will affect you metabolism. And it is also true if bile is flowing strongly then these pathogens won't be able to grow as bile is a very strong antimicrobial
Helen on E coli :
"he is an obivous slow oxidizer which is why he is helped by k2. which is not a problem in CFS
slow oxidizers actually have high e coli which makes tons of k2. and fast oxidizers have low e coli ,since they dont need k2.
since slow oxidziers have calcium activation problem with brain copper TOXICITY.
or gaba overexpression. or infection in the gut activatiing phospholipase A2"
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For sure... I still have muscle from randro and 4andro but not all. Did it help sex drive and response forever? not sure. I think in absence of other stuff, it may have.
Ru for sure, I could use it again and I think it would help long run but maybe people need more cycles.
I honestly feel test cream helps my spinal/connective tissue disorder and maybe eventually raging hard erections too. I took it 3-4 days but should take that and dex and coffee and stick to carnivore. I mean I have a legit disability... may as well use the few drugs that help it. BUT I can see the point of not using em and letting full strict carnivore do its thing. And also TEI.
I think hormones will push recovery faster but to get rid of imbalances long term, TEI is more likely to do that. Some people felt nothing on randro/4andro. I took both so did Jacknap, I hate fin... possibly Tubzy and others too. Most of Swole Source took them both or similar things like Ultrahard.
To stay in recovered state long term., minerals .. I am sure 85-90% of fasting gains stayed but I can fast etc again. YOU eat and take other stuff and recovery changes or there's other stuff to recover from.
I feel no shame in using tests cream to see if it helps literal scoliosis, degenerative disc disease although yeah IF I can get that from red meat, salt, water (butter optional), then that's good too.
IF you can take a break and hop back on tei... later that might be good. BUT I see no problem in trying ru486. I am way healthier than when I first water fasted and when I first did ru486 but have bad food habits... I was just starting to workout again but end of 2018 all of 2019 ya i was healthier than ever. It isn't just one thing, it is many things. All the little things.
Still have extra cuts and definition. 20lbs overweight with fluid and fat.. (I ate only cookie dough for a couple months, cookie dough and cheese sandwiches... not sure why).
Drop 10-15lbs and I have light vascularity most places. ALL gains from randro/4andro? no but mood... and ability to keep muscle. Most gains were from fasting, electrolyte protocol, ru... randro/4andro the herbs but really most were from diet and exercise.. being strict strict strict. I have extra cuts that if I was still in pfs or in crash state I wouldn't have. Really people still accused me of being on geat 2-3 years after using it. I have a connective tissue disorder and I suspect I hyperrespond to certain androgens (like some sarms) and I don't respond to some others barely at all. And also I am sure without detoxing/eliminating with fasting and all that... I wouldn't respond barely at all. In suicidal state, I dont think randro/4andro would have done shyt.
10-20days carnivore 18days water fasting, I can get rid of depression , anxiety for a long long time... deep seated things Like ADHD/autism are harder...
I still have hella definition and barely lifted in 2 years but I did lift most of 20 yrs. Androgens turned on..can keep gains. ALL gains or most vanished in pfs crash, back 6-8mo after water fasting. AND back and then a lot more by 9mo into recovery. I'd still be ripped completely if not for fucked up diet model, and not knowing what to do.
YOUR Spain trip sounds cool man.
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I think diet.. paleo or carnivore or TEI recommendations will fix Biome.
I had stomach tests this and that stool tests after Accutane at 17 or 18..and maybe after effexor at 22... Ya i never got em again. never helped me.
Lifting, carb backloading, eliminating bad foods did. Better detoxing with less fat (for real) and more muscle (i am saying this in a dumbed down way perhaps.. bc I fucked up and had carbs a lot).
I will try salt, butter, meat only. IF dex keeps me on track 2 3weeks it is worth it. later i can fast a lot and do it all naturally. All the health fanatics I have seen they quit coffee 6mo or a year most come back to it or they never started. It isn't heroin or krokadil. I am not saying it is for most ppl but I mean you can tell if stims help u a lot. Not treating ADHD trading against psychopaths or going to school against them (with them) like in law.. it is not an option. I was not born into wealth. I need to focus. Functional addiction too. Same with working hard, workaholism (NOT ALWAYS BAD*** can be but not always). Diet and exercise it helps. Plus ya i may have some permanent or semi permanent damage with stims... so I mean if they keep me away from 99% of bad habits and help me get things done then fine.
IF dex works 12 yrs or so after i first started it... and I needed less dose more lean and after fasting, ru, randro/4andro, etc... THEN yeah in a way androgen gains are still there.
I mean.. 12 weeks I could be at peak again. I just feel I could do it happily without injury and with less stress..with mood enhancing carnivore or tei first.
I wouldn't even do tei personally without diet in check. Same with any androgens or stimulant mostly (for me).
Randro/4andro without training hard... seems like a waste but if it gets someone to the gym.. it helps. It made many of us ripped again. SOME ppl were really lucky and stayed lean but I can lose fat and keep muscle i can get overweight. I can gain or lose 10lbs a week in beginning stages of a new diet plus lifting even more.
I'd do randro/4andro again later but I think I am past that point and in that sense TEI is better. I would only do androgens if they help my neck stability, limb stability, knee/leg stability, and things like that. Arthritic pain. EDS (or similar) stuff. I am holding off test but just had to do a bunch of stuff around the house and for sure it is less annoying in carnivore zen, while fasted, while on tei... in great shape all those things. any one of em let alone a couple.
DID all raging erections stay forever from prohormones? No. I was enhanced. They wouldn't for nearly anyone... even people who just took it to get jacked.
DID ru stuff stay? I respond to rad140 years later but yeah in good or generally good health 75th 80th percentile they should. most steroids and shyt should only be used by people in 95th 98th percentile diet and exercise. SO that results can show ,.... glowingly. OF course 80 maybe 90% of steroid users aren't healthy, smoke, are overweight... think they need 1200mg of test vs 150-200mg.
Some respond none at all. I SUSPECT in deep PFS, or similar states most won't respond outside of huge doses.
Responded to rad 140 10 or 20mg even 5-6mg. BUT yea that is not a permanent solution to my connective tissue disorder (there aren't many... there are hella scams.. and misdiagnoses but it is kind of like PFS where most stuff u are on your own for). /rant.
I had stomach tests this and that stool tests after Accutane at 17 or 18..and maybe after effexor at 22... Ya i never got em again. never helped me.
Lifting, carb backloading, eliminating bad foods did. Better detoxing with less fat (for real) and more muscle (i am saying this in a dumbed down way perhaps.. bc I fucked up and had carbs a lot).
I will try salt, butter, meat only. IF dex keeps me on track 2 3weeks it is worth it. later i can fast a lot and do it all naturally. All the health fanatics I have seen they quit coffee 6mo or a year most come back to it or they never started. It isn't heroin or krokadil. I am not saying it is for most ppl but I mean you can tell if stims help u a lot. Not treating ADHD trading against psychopaths or going to school against them (with them) like in law.. it is not an option. I was not born into wealth. I need to focus. Functional addiction too. Same with working hard, workaholism (NOT ALWAYS BAD*** can be but not always). Diet and exercise it helps. Plus ya i may have some permanent or semi permanent damage with stims... so I mean if they keep me away from 99% of bad habits and help me get things done then fine.
IF dex works 12 yrs or so after i first started it... and I needed less dose more lean and after fasting, ru, randro/4andro, etc... THEN yeah in a way androgen gains are still there.
I mean.. 12 weeks I could be at peak again. I just feel I could do it happily without injury and with less stress..with mood enhancing carnivore or tei first.
I wouldn't even do tei personally without diet in check. Same with any androgens or stimulant mostly (for me).
Randro/4andro without training hard... seems like a waste but if it gets someone to the gym.. it helps. It made many of us ripped again. SOME ppl were really lucky and stayed lean but I can lose fat and keep muscle i can get overweight. I can gain or lose 10lbs a week in beginning stages of a new diet plus lifting even more.
I'd do randro/4andro again later but I think I am past that point and in that sense TEI is better. I would only do androgens if they help my neck stability, limb stability, knee/leg stability, and things like that. Arthritic pain. EDS (or similar) stuff. I am holding off test but just had to do a bunch of stuff around the house and for sure it is less annoying in carnivore zen, while fasted, while on tei... in great shape all those things. any one of em let alone a couple.
DID all raging erections stay forever from prohormones? No. I was enhanced. They wouldn't for nearly anyone... even people who just took it to get jacked.
DID ru stuff stay? I respond to rad140 years later but yeah in good or generally good health 75th 80th percentile they should. most steroids and shyt should only be used by people in 95th 98th percentile diet and exercise. SO that results can show ,.... glowingly. OF course 80 maybe 90% of steroid users aren't healthy, smoke, are overweight... think they need 1200mg of test vs 150-200mg.
Some respond none at all. I SUSPECT in deep PFS, or similar states most won't respond outside of huge doses.
Responded to rad 140 10 or 20mg even 5-6mg. BUT yea that is not a permanent solution to my connective tissue disorder (there aren't many... there are hella scams.. and misdiagnoses but it is kind of like PFS where most stuff u are on your own for). /rant.
I came back from the Spain Trip with a lot more aura than before, getting more female attention now I'm back in UK without taking TEI or anything and I feel like I can approach girls without it being an issue, but for some reason in Spain I didn't feel like approaching any girls felt beta and a bit autistic despite getting attention at times. But maybe I find it easier to speak to english girls i dunno, also going on a holiday like that puts you in a relaxed state, you get back and the people here in London are in a more stressed state you so it becomes easier to speak to strangers/girls than before. Got very burnt on the last day, but I needed Vitamin D according to my oligioscan where it was low so maybe that helped my aura/confidence too.
Also I've heard someone say EDS is just a metabolic issue, if you fix the issues/blocks in the pathways revolving EDS metabolism then it can be fixed