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[MNK99]

Oh you already went there. I see. I mean yeah your baseline must have improved. TEI can't be that bad for getting women.. but I guess in deep detox it can be. I usually felt alpha even autistic but I was cold and aloof I mean I always have been especially since getting ripped more aesthetic. Still shy but less so. Looking good, they can do all the work and I can do the rest at my apartment or house.

I am sure it is actually at times... TEI but your baseline health should and probably will improve a lot. Suffering is temporary when we take the right steps. Long term gains will be worth it.

Making groups of friends tho.. ya i need less autism or whatever. It is hard bc I can't tell who is a douchebag or not. But I mean I can think of 25 people that tried to befriend me or date me in recent yrs... like dozens of times. BUT I mean yeah I have bad coping mechanisms. I hope tei can fix that shyt. IF it makes social skills/awareness bad for a bit, I will channel that into work and fitness for the time being.

Holidays always make it easier to meet people, for sure. And you're more worldly you have stories to tell new girls. London is a stressful place for sure.

I am sure metabolism plays a huge role in like eds and also bipolar etc (don't think I have that but research a lot shows it is metabolistic).
There are many mechanisms at play.

Maybe less hypermobile at 20s and 30s than as a kid and a way stronger/ cleaner diet. BUT also older... and training... I mean yeah you can't attempt a lot of that flexibility stuff, it could lead to permanent injury.
I am sure certain strict diets are great for me. Even paleo. Carnivore too but sometimes I lose it and have something ...like cheese and yogurt (they have sulphites and other stuff.. convert to sugar) and then I screw up and eat some bad food. BUT I will get raw dairy and more steaks so no room to mess up. More carbonated waters and bottled waters too.

I am sure it plays a role and I am lucky I don't have an insane EDS like vEDS or similar... (deadly many die at like 30 35). I am sure diet can help people a lot. I don't know if it would get rid of all problems and doubt it would for the women (mostly) that have multiple neurosurgeries and spinal surgeries (at the same time, like for Chiari malformation), but I am sure it could help overall joints and ligament laxity a lot.

Yeah I did all my essays, and reading.. and 2 universities a lot of studying standing up or lying down in fucked up ways. 20 documents over my bed writing academic petitions. Listening to music walking downtown Toronto or Calgary and ignoring everyone... It was getting hard to carry groceries despite being more jacked than 98% of ppl so I felt embarrassed but ya that was literal C1 pain.

My parents would drop off stuff in the pandemic or I would order food courier (where they are meals but u make it, but all the ingredients are there). And yeah it would hurt and feel pretty hard to bend down.

I am sure carnivore helps it a lot.. just gotta not screw up at 6 or 8 days. 2 weeks it must be way easier then. I mean I fasted a long time... and fasting is easier (intermittent) now again. SO It should be possible.

 

[MNK99]

How many cycles u do so far of TEI bro? Was your appearance different? Muscle gains? Tolerate more foods now on break. taking a break a couple weeks is probably good. Or even a month.
Just don't get too distracted and forget about it forever if you ever take such a break. Long term... staying the course, you can leave it later. Retesting every 4mo or so.. 3-4 mo Even Better Now told me.
For slow oxidizers. They asked if I wanted a practitioner. I may get one later. But I will post results. Hair test one.. just carnivore Ideally.. but I will mention if I took other stuff, and hairtest 2 after a few mo of TEI.

Yeah I think improvements to baseline mostly permanent. But peak improvements to physique and androgen receptor sensitivity (so maybe 40-50% better with ru.. and like 30% stays.. and 80-90% better with randro/4andro and 70-80% percent of that stays.. but fasting like 80-90% stayed). BUT go long enuff with bad habits or not taking care of health.. or laziness, I am sure things can go down.

Results are cumulative and more than additive though. Multiplicative or exponential up to a point. More than 1% a day.. like 10-20% 30% a month at times.. 20% maybe. IDK, everyone is different.

 

[Fazed22]

How many cycles u do so far of TEI bro? Was your appearance different? Muscle gains? Tolerate more foods now on break. taking a break a couple weeks is probably good. Or even a month.
Just don't get too distracted and forget about it forever if you ever take such a break. Long term... staying the course, you can leave it later. Retesting every 4mo or so.. 3-4 mo Even Better Now told me.
For slow oxidizers. They asked if I wanted a practitioner. I may get one later. But I will post results. Hair test one.. just carnivore Ideally.. but I will mention if I took other stuff, and hairtest 2 after a few mo of TEI.

Yeah I think improvements to baseline mostly permanent. But peak improvements to physique and androgen receptor sensitivity (so maybe 40-50% better with ru.. and like 30% stays.. and 80-90% better with randro/4andro and 70-80% percent of that stays.. but fasting like 80-90% stayed). BUT go long enuff with bad habits or not taking care of health.. or laziness, I am sure things can go down.

Results are cumulative and more than additive though. Multiplicative or exponential up to a point. More than 1% a day.. like 10-20% 30% a month at times.. 20% maybe. IDK, everyone is different.

Dunno I've just been doing it at my own pace since july/august last year but I have been taking my own supplements also, I think there is some stuff they don't cover with their supplements that I need, but I know you aren't supposed to mix it with anything.

Nah didn't really change my appearance of muscle gains, I did take TEI one day in spain and I felt like it was working properly for once and felt all hormones working properly and stuff, but then I had ice cream, gluten/glyphosate there and the next days I didn't feel like taking it at all and if I did take it would cause issues after eating those things.

Also had a pizza in spain and got the skin on roof of mouth peeling thing again and I think it is from the glyphosate in the pizza causing issues with vitamin A in my body but not sure, but this was a vitamin A toxicity symptom I have had in the past.

I am gonna try the Ru, but I don't know how to split the 200mg pill into tiny doses that part may be hard, if it was a capsule would be easier... Also when you were taking Ru did you feel good or bad while taking it, because when i've taken progesterone in the past it makes me feel good and relaxed so Ru might have the opposite effects for me

 

[MNK99]

Interesting. I took ru after water fasting, most my effects were from there... but a week or two after taking ru, I was getting better and better.
I think TEI may be too slow for a lot of people. Fasting made it work better I think. Most of my detoxing was done I think in extended water fasting which is kind of why I want to wait till I am solidly on carnivore and have a strong workout routine, so I get maximal results. On the other hand, mineral balancing (like fasting) is for very sick people so it should be helping too what the hell.

I fully believe hormones make it faster tho (this whole PFS process). Be they ru, randro/4andro. Possibly progesterone
Maybe test and progesterone.

I still have muscle and look strong tho I am self critical. If I was on TEI a year without progress, I think I would switch but I am sure you had some progress. I had progress in days, on day one but it was after a LOT of stuff.

 

[MNK99]

Dunno I've just been doing it at my own pace since july/august last year but I have been taking my own supplements also, I think there is some stuff they don't cover with their supplements that I need, but I know you aren't supposed to mix it with anything.

Nah didn't really change my appearance of muscle gains, I did take TEI one day in spain and I felt like it was working properly for once and felt all hormones working properly and stuff, but then I had ice cream, gluten/glyphosate there and the next days I didn't feel like taking it at all and if I did take it would cause issues after eating those things.

Also had a pizza in spain and got the skin on roof of mouth peeling thing again and I think it is from the glyphosate in the pizza causing issues with vitamin A in my body but not sure, but this was a vitamin A toxicity symptom I have had in the past.

I am gonna try the Ru, but I don't know how to split the 200mg pill into tiny doses that part may be hard, if it was a capsule would be easier... Also when you were taking Ru did you feel good or bad while taking it, because when i've taken progesterone in the past it makes me feel good and relaxed so Ru might have the opposite effects for me

Did that suffer from finasteride syndrome? Or maybe you have a crash that is unrelated to PFS. If so, sorry man... there's a lot to keep track of at the moment.
Did your illness cause you to lose muscle, ability to put on muscle, destroy digestion? If not, then wtf you should be progressing well on TEI. I don't think you took too much outside of it.

I mean did you lose muscle and gain fat, worsen body composition.

Or you "only" have mold issues?

Lift harder!! All the time. Not hating, I'm just saying.


Valence Neutraceuticals (which you told me about) man. That will speed up things. remember tho it isn't a race and for all we know you might feel bad and then get rapid gains. It is not a race, you are just trying to push yourself further along in recovery.

 

[Fazed22]

Did that suffer from finasteride syndrome? Or maybe you have a crash that is unrelated to PFS. If so, sorry man... there's a lot to keep track of at the moment.
Did your illness cause you to lose muscle, ability to put on muscle, destroy digestion? If not, then wtf you should be progressing well on TEI. I don't think you took too much outside of it.

I mean did you lose muscle and gain fat, worsen body composition.

Or you "only" have mold issues?

Lift harder!! All the time. Not hating, I'm just saying.


Valence Neutraceuticals (which you told me about) man. That will speed up things. remember tho it isn't a race and for all we know you might feel bad and then get rapid gains. It is not a race, you are just trying to push yourself further along in recovery.

Yeah I didn't have PFS but years ago I did have a PFS like condition like POIS + CFS illness not anymore though. For my whole life I have always been skinny my hormones have never worked properly I guess - iron never getting to Testosterone. No I feel like TEI does move me forward in the right direction but yeah its not really changing my body compisition also don't really feel like hormones are much better because I think I have stuff in my body that is blocking it from working properly. For example in spain I took TEI one day and I felt it working much better there and felt my hormones turn on properly.

There are two issues I think one is I have some infection in my body messing with things, and two my liver is congested (I have gallstones).

My initial post on this thread is confusing as it was only mentioning just some concerns I had about what happened in the last year and a half which mainly came from extreme stress that I was put through, way overdoing ray peat diet and sugar (partly because of the stress I was going through) and then also living in mold and mentioned nothing about what happened before that.

 

[Fazed22]

@MNK99 How tall are you btw because in your pic you shared you looked slim so I was surprised you are 205lb , because I am 6ft and weight is between 140lb-145lb but my body composition also looks like yours I am muscly but slim.

 

[MNK99]

Yeah I was ripped in those pics. really really ripped in lower one and taking nothing but mg, b, enzymes hcl, maybe fish oil, dex and coffee. It was years after randro/4andro. Androgens help me retain glycogen stores and more muscle mass but I was skinny looking there. Dex, school, work. When in mids late 20s and jacked at 190 i would flux up to 200 with no workouts or down to 180.. or 177 and lose some size. With stress and business. Just like there... photo one 188-190 and the other 176 and yrs later, but normally 185-192... Probably hEDS/HSD, mineral issues make me lose weight fast and also they can help me gain fast (strength).

, I was usually 185-190lbs maybe 175. But in the first pic I was approaching 190-198lbs end of randro/4andro, I was 198. Later I was usually 192lbs when taking a test booster and taking nothing but dex like 175-185lbs. the last picture I was probably 176-179lbs on no PFS stuff. Strong still but stronger and more max lifts I am like 185-190.

203-205 now but it is 15-17lbs down in days from fluid/ carnivore. Inflammation and fluid retention.

Ripped 20+ yrs ago save for effexor, finasteride a decade later, and sometimes due to school and injury. Still look ripped at 203-205... look less ripped inflamed. Carnivore will help so will tei.
I am overweight a bit now tho, like 34in waist. I just need to stick to carnivore

There are guys shorter and taller than us that are 220lbs and jacked and ripped. And there are guys that are the same height and are 130lbs (I mean that is pretty skinny but still, it can be normal for them).

I am sure mg, b, and veg and meat or meat, or an androgen or 2, help me retain muscle, water, glycogen, nutrients better. So 18 in arms...

I'm near shredded in the 180's and stupidly skinny but ripped in high 170s and ripped in the 190s. I am sure carnivore will shift these numbers left 5-7lbs maybe but also I am sure, that fasting already did that... 80lbs shoulder shrugs, 80-150lbs tricep pull downs, 160-220lbs back seated rows and lateral pulldowns 110-160lbs. leg press super set 3-4 sets like 375-550lbs 45-55x. i was strong... as fuck
and will be again. those numbers are after fin. 99chinups one set, 81 dips one set super set then back... and 300-400pushups and crunches often... i was doing 200 pushups plus a day over a decade ago in early 20s, after effexor. I had to fill out my frame and also had former obesity, and hyperextensible skin. I outrained gorillas at 250-300lbs tho by a lot and people on tons of gear. just on ashwa and 15mg dex, some b, mg, and some coffee, and some electrolytes.

I am 6'0. Jacked, cut, and ripped (most of the time). I am only 205 because I was eating (very unlike me), cookie dough and cheese sandwiches (not together, I'm not an animal) for a while and I injured my neck
ANd I was sad over my apartment situation, and a lot of other stuff. I got hurt in my neck region twice in light squats... hEDS/HSD stuff. I bought braces and sarms and anabolics and got test prescribed ater.

I threw most those sarms and haven't used ... like most anabolics but I got prolotherapy and also really good quality braces and tape. I have been ripped 175 20+ yrs ago... 185-191 --10-12 yrs ago, and with carnivore, with or without androgens and dex, probably can be rippling vains and ripped at 195bs eventually 200. I am 203 now but that is just days into carnivore... 6-8 weeks, Ill be ripped.

IF test cream works/dht... and or a sarm cuz of my hEDS, I will be ripped and more ripped at a lower weight... with that and dex. 2-5 lbs less with dex... 4lbs-8lbs less or 10lbs more with test or sarm or both.
I am untrained now and still more muscular than 80% of ppl. 99% soon again. Even tho hypotonia a bit no issue on sarms, or after randro/4andro or 2-3 yrs later. Mature muscle and density.

Take nothing, cut with diet 185, 35lbs down from bad diet... but muscular in all sizes. However, ya I will be very ripped. ADD gear.. test and rad.. 195 very ripped... add dex and coffee, 192.. wait.. let cycle go away only use test cream (increasing dht), and ya 188-193 194. I think my highest weight that was sustained was 188-192 very ripped. 188-192 most of the last 5 years was way stronger than 188like 10-13 years ago.

If I go to 175 with strict carnivore and lifting, it is fluid retention loss. BUT I am sure I can maintain a lot of vascularity and strength at 179-192lbs with or without gear. AFTER gear, just using ashwa or tongkat ali... etc. Test cream if it works for me, which it should, should be a lot better. Most this talk about gear is related to looks/aesthetics and hEDS/HSD, not so much PFS. I think it helps both eventually.

Same time I am trying maybe no coffee, no dex, only meat/fat/salt. Maybe not even fat or barely any added for ribeyes... and maybe eventually no salt. Just to see how it helps hEDS and PFS.

If I want to feel like I have no pfs at all in a couple weeks, I think test cream would do that. BUt I also did more than 99% of people who ever had pfs, in a shorter time. I think carnivore/tei will cure all of PFS remaining (which isn't much), and then help hEDS, ASD, trauma. Anxiety, Depression will go away with either carniv or tei. Or fasting. And it will be long gone with both. ASD/ADHD are real... and deep set but they will get a lot better too. I look lean at all weights... 176-202. Ripped for sure, most would say but I'd say 176-195lbs ripped, I'm harsh tho. I will have lower weights on nothing and just carnivore probably.
Maybe higher than lowest weight and better electrolytes and retaining muscle and lower than highest weight (So mid 20's when I was injured and had to study for 14 classes to catch up, I gain to 200). Injury/bad diet I gained to 220 (but stronger hella stronger, after PFS recovery efforts), and yeah maybe 180 if I lose too much --> 191lb that is where I was 80% of the time anyways. I will more ripped even more ripped in 3-6mo.

 

[Fazed22]

So in the last week I managed to get my copper and iron metabolism/ceruloplasmin working properly, because I now suddenly felt strong dopamine and testosterone from eating beef when usually I don't (I normally feel good from beef but the iron I get from it is not being made into dopamine and test) , I also felt euphoric kinda and way more oxygenated when I went outside , libido came back properly. And this all happened because I tried TUDCA again and was doing coffee enemas with it too. It is weird because since I developed gallbladder issues a few years ago, TUDCA would normally make my bile worse and give me yellow stools, but this time it didn't and I have normal dark brown stools and it seems like the TUDCA has helped clear some excess copper or iron I'm not sure.

Anyway I bought an "organic" frozen pizza from wholefoods because I felt like one and was also feeling good, well it was a huge mistake and made neuropathy come back in my legs (which last days sometimes even weeks), and it also put me into alkalosis and I just felt colder and a bit hypothyroid and pale for a day. I am pretty sure it is the iron that they use in flour which is a toxic form of iron causing these symptoms for me and I guess because I have some damage somewhere in my body I now get these symptoms from eating these kinda foods. I also had very dry mouth and blood sugar symptoms for the day after which is not normal for me. And I couldn't just take HCL to fix the issue because acidic environments increase iron so it would make the issue worse and I actually did put the hcl in my mouth to try and spat it out because my body didn't want it.

@MNK99 I think I also remembered you saying certain foods messed you up too? Anyway this sucks I really want to somehow heal my body so I can eat any food I want again without any issue ever since my gallbladder first went wrong a few years ago I stopped being able to eat whatever I want.

I'm not sure how I do this though, liver flushes? Stem cell therapy? Peptides? Chelation? Remylination therapy?

Gbolds advice for slow oxidisers on RP forum : Eat his diet, do 20 liver flushes a year and you will look like a teenager again he said. Maybe I need to quit carbs and just do veg and meat but I do feel like I need carbs.

 

[MNK99]

I mean recent year or so, I ate some bad food... but it just actually messes me up more when leaving strict carnivore. Nothing too bad, doesn't really hurt sexual health.
However something kind of normal for me, like a rice/keto tortilla... eating one a day, I mean was depressed and eating like 2-3 and yeah it kept me unmotivated. But dex, coffee, it wasn't so bad but it wasn't
good either and I would avoid anything unclean like that (some veg oils) for 2-3 years after Fin syndrome. Now, for sure after 4 days or 8 days and I imagine even 80days or 300 days or 2 years (or 5 yrs) of carniv
often it would make me sick. If I cheated at 2yrs or 5 yrs with some crappy food (processed, oils, seed oils, made up ingreds basically not one ingredient foods), I'd get sick for a day or so.

If you mean in PFS and especially the crash? Yeah ANYTHING. Whatever I craved especially. I would order crepes and sugary food and just lie down and eat and get sicker and sicker... I couldn't function nor do anything. when I moved home for a while I craved more carbs, more nuts, garbage food for me, especially then. making digestion and stools horrible, me unable to sleep and eat most that year.

I juice feasted starting in like September of that year but kept messing up... then did it for real in maybe Oct and Nov to December more and more and then eventually after the Xmas nonsense, I did real water fasting. I ate really clean afterwards, mostly homemade food for 3-4mo and then some takeout with meat... maybe adding some sauces at 8mo, no gluten for 12mo barely at all for like 15-18mo. And as little seed oils etc as I could. maybe cheese and dairy a tiny bit in month 14-16 and then here and there more.. in months 22-24 30 of healing by that I time I didn't care. Had to make money or continue education formerlly.

Not continuing TEI, I should have done more electrolytes protocol (but the long vsn didn't make that much sense, and ev1 was confused), or JUST CARNIVORE.

Not surprised at all to get to 90 95% etc, one has to eat super clean 1-2 years. At least like 6-8mo and workout like a machine to "switch androgens back on" (fix epigenetic expression, reduce overexpression and whatever else. Express this, unexpress that... basically to reverse "androgen deprivation" and pump LH and whatever else, fix enzymes/ hormones, their pathways, etc etc). Best to simplify and set it and forget it.

Protocol wise. I did.. as best as I can and yeah I am trying to now. For instance with or without hormones or ADHD medicine, I will keep trying carnivore. Maybe I can make 45d, 60d, 90d straight with some
dex and hormonal help and workout more and take care of life tasks... and then drop them. I will try sticking to that.

I never did liver flushes, I did try various supps on here in 2017 none worked, they probably would in 2018, I tried lots of things... but like peptides, aminos... later after fasting and with lifting weights, aminos/whey,
food, and supplements, and tei, and most that stuff worked. Noots also (for learning after or with PFS recovery in sight, and with it automated in a sense).

I mean veg has some carbs but I mean veg and meat, that is mostly what I ate, with some rice while on TEI. Maybe some gluten free bread, potatoes, sweet potatoes... but mostly rice and potatoes, 2-3 of my fav vegs. Also in the final part of his recovery, I think RWAC ate veg and meat and discarded some other carbs. I think veg and meat and low carb or keto....is good but maybe hard to stick to. Carnivore maybe but it extreme also like water fasting (neither are "that extreme", with continual practice).

Yeah I mean... I think 30 to 25 or 32 to 25 or 34 to 25-27 is young enough. I don't think 99.99% of ppl are going back to 18. I have like 35-40 and at times 45-55lbs of muscle on that anyways (maybe less IDK).
I mean 180 was starving myself and 5-6 yrs later 185-190 pretty ripped. A bit later very ripped. After pfs even above 190 was even more ripped. BUT young in the face? Sure I am sure it can help people.

I think water fasting, ideally swimming in the ocean as he used to say would do that too. I think some people benefitted from Liver Flushing, maybe Orion who took Accutane like 20-25 yrs ago, IIRC.
He did a low vit A diet, hella fasting (mostly Breuss like 54 days or 40 days or something and then even more maybe).

I definitely avoided cookies, cake/ice cream, bread... 100% of microwave, frozen food (except burgers maybe or meatballs etc, spinach).. for like 15months, until like my bday the next yr, when I was out on my own again. I did order a tiny bit of cake. It was damn good. Digestion didn't fall till like 1-1.5 yrs later.. 2020 end maybe even later.. 2021... until I stopped taking HCl enzymes, Mg, B(12 or b50, i changed it at t), and some other stuff. Like sometimes zn, sometimes this and that...

my mineral/supplemental regime fell and I knew I needed stuff for overall health and like for ADHD/autism or whatever I had, and didn't
know what they were so I went down mentally. AND I was using a test booster/ dht booster (naturally) for a long time...

like Most of 2019 or half of it... i retained glycogen, could eat well... 4500cals.. and 2200
and then less and less over the next couple yrs. bc I had less muscle and more.. less activity. Food processed/ nutrients partitioned better on androgens with some minerals for sure. I don't just mean with pfs, I mean before it.

I could probably get a lot of that alpha feeling that a small test booster and my own minerals helped me with, with tongkat ali long term or switching that and some herbs or better yet just TEI.
I hope carnivore can do that too. Everyday in 6-7 day streaks I fought myself over coffee, over some sauce later like a mo or 40 days into trying carniv. And then over coffee, dex, and hrt...

 

[Fazed22]

@MNK99 I'm gonna cut way down on my beef consumption, I was eating a lot of these delicious beef meatballs everyday but all that iron was slowing me down and putting a burden on my liver and slowly making me toxic in iron. Gonna eat chicken thighs instead, I was eating chicken breast before but chicken thigh meat is way more nutritious than chicken breast. Also when I increase my copper consumption in my diet with large amounts of chickpeas I see improvements too, my diet lacked enough copper. I was eating tons of oats before but I don't think they were giving me copper either they were feeding fungi stealing my copper or the phytic acid was blocking it as oats contain a fair amount of copper.

 

[MNK99]

--tl;dr:
--copper bad.
-- chicken thighs fattier. and fattier meats in gen make sense.
--check the ingreds if there are 10 things in a meat.., not that bad still better than all processed carb foods (acc to Ken Berry, and others).
--meatballs prolly there's potato starch, maybe corn starch, a couple veg ingreds.
--make your own ground beef, you can add nice seasonings.. asian, indian, or like american (whatever ppl add in steaks or ground beef). I liked garlic, ginger, and like chives.
--add bok choi and arugula bro.
--oats i forget why but basically like cereal,.. just sugar sitting on your stomach.
--you sound like you lose fat easily so maybe that isn't a big deal, maybe I am biased but I think those cause your current food issues.
--my old ones i 2017 was me being destroyed/ hormones not working prolly ok ish in blood tests (mostly too sick to get em but I did have a stomach surgery so I got some -mandated).
--And toxicity/ things attacking my body, metals, parasites/ whatever who knows. Pathogens.
--AND later I assumed gluten and the like and dairy mostly.. but I ate pretty close to very clean whole foods paleo with some veg but then added a couple sauces from donair/shwarmera places I like.
--but only really clean good resteraunts, but then you don't know some places add fkd up things to even rice. I kept it clean tho... RICE + meat + veg. maybe 1-2 sauces, my fav herbs.. 2-3 resteraunts i trust
--mostly that for 3/4 of 2018... except when vegan, fasting... and like making it all on my own. I DID make fish, beef and stuff at home.
--just a note, less tasty but yeah man carnivore removes the indecision and needing for other stuff.
--if you are doing carniv or low carb or whatever, try and have dairy that has no other stuff in it, maybe make your kefir and or goat or raw cheese... to avoid crap from markets.
--and like.. skim milk and liquid dairy is worst... heavy cream and some hard cheeses and soft cheeses are best, made thru a process that eliminates (by bacteria) most sugar.
--don't buy like zero fat yogurt... make sure if u buy greek yogurt there's like 3-4 ingreds max, things like that.

I see.

Could be other stuff in the meatballs tho rite? i mean homemade dairy is way better (shredded cheese has cellulose). For yogurt and cheese
(yogurt... in Canada and the USA has pectin, guar, xanthan), and a lot of store bought grass fed meatballs have excipients (like potato starch, corn starch, seasoning, and other plant materials). I mean that's how I think for my Strict Carnivore at least.

Had I kept all my memecoin and leverage gains in recent 2-3mo, I'd just have like 80 steaks in my freezer and 3-4 in the fridge (I am really eating light, despite now being on 100mg-150mg test cream + 200mg test e injected a week, fuck it. I seriously think even with no PFS (which will happen, but yes I can do it "healthier" and all natty, and may in the future again. Tho hormones have their place).

Anyways, I see that meat can cause issues to some people but really in PFS, I have zero doubt it is due to messed up biome, parasites, yeast, fungus, bacteria. Maybe mostly the biome.
It takes weeks to months, some even 11mo-16mo to resolve. I mean most people probably never resolve it. People doing TEI, or liver flushes, fasting etc... aren't "most people". They're actively trying to fix general and overall health.

Man IDK... you have less issues with chicken then beef? Check the ingredients bro.
For sure, some people like chicken better but most doing what I am doing prefer the fattier meats and mostly beef. Like lamb burgers after not having em years and years were great.

Ground chuck is so much better than lean ground beef but that can do with butter (check ingredients there too, shouldn't be "skim milk"). Ghee when in doubt, and find the good brands in your area.
Perhaps nationally perhaps locally. Perhaps from a farm you drive down to (sounds like a pain in the ass but I definitely would, if I drove more).
or proscuito (from Italy, saying pork, salt, water, or maybe just pork and water).

Fatty cuts. I love tenderloins... I don't know if they are Fillet Mignons (acc to some Costco butchers they are). I think Fillet Mignons are really lean tho and thin... but who knows.
Fillet mignon/ Tenderloin and ribeyes... I could live off of forever and get like a collection of Redmond's salts and my other fav Himalayan Pink Sea Salt.

Even eggs, 3-4 might make tummy rumble, bc they eat soy and corn. FREE RANGE, no vits added, I think non pasteure eggs? (not heated, denaturing the protein) are better.
Your own hen's eggs or a friend's hen's eggs (not really realistic for many of us incl. me), are possibly even better. I KNOW health food store eggs> BOMB.

I had chicken cutlets one time in like 2months of trying carnivore (maybe 47/59 days? or maybe 45/60? IDk messed up a lot in stressful week/ family coming over/ not closing some of my best trades ever
then eating pure trash (stuff that would probably make me or keep me sick at 20 or as a kid.. stuff id never buy). "KETO SNACKS" i.e. with oils, hella oils, some brownie but way worse type snack. ONLY ate it due to compulsion/ addiction... sugar addiction (I mean I beat porn most the time, smoking, cocaine, antidepressants, tv as a kid, video games as a kid and young adult, running, internet, kind of leverage trades (Soon), I would not be surprised if eating sugar/ carbs 2 days in 16 or so is only due to mental and physical addiction. I guess coffee too I just beat or will in a couple months.. give it time).

They were ok but... i needed to add butter, still wanted more food needed like 5-6 were frozen. It is ok on keto (not as easy to stick to, lots of bad marketed things, your own keto making 90-100 percent at home sure...). There is more lee way tho. BRAIN FOG severe tiredness, anxiety, depression.. and just tension wrapped up in hyperfocus while staring at the screen... afterwards.

I think I can build a noble good routine with strict carnivore again. or water fasting. and surely with TEI but i mean in weeks.. I regret messing up on day 8 and then i think later day 9 or so.
Same time, lots of experts say it takes time to adapt, to get fat adapted... so maybe not so bad.. but yeah I won't get max AUTOPHAGY and MITOPHAGY and who knows maybe test will damage that.

REGARDLESS, I look better and more well kept but yeah I mean I can do a lot better too. I just want to focus and do well.
I'd look a lot better if it was 60 d straight or fasting 40d straight... I mean removing depression and not dragging self to shower, shaving every 2-3d I only do this in severe depression. O/W i shower 2x a day
and like workout daily. I feel better since pep talking myself and forcing myself to continue taking dex, and test cream + test e a bit, and a tiny bit of dermacrine (DHEA an PREG - may do zero.. and has some ingreds that are bad, and realistically HCG should make those anyways, and keep the lights on, intertesticular volume wise, semen production wise).

I think fixing semen long term --> HCG and then TEI. if ever fucked, HCG 6mo or so. Maybe Joekool's protocol or whatever the GP or Endo if I get one wants.. and not overthinking it (can go crazy and analysis paralysis --i mean look at me these days.. it is horrible, this shyt was gone mostly since late 20s and after pfs was nearly cured). I guess ASD and ADHD will keep screwing things up for me, so I want TEI,

BUt I want carniv too. and some meds? who cares. Ppl add minerals.. meds u should add minerals. My protocol is suboptimal and still good --> transition to more optimal with minerals --> super optimal just TEI and Carniv. My diet is 100% clear tho when I adhere. SO I need to make 14-21 days... I may remove dex and test cream... but I want to try IT and also add HCG
--tho maybe test cream only helps sex ability IDK 8-10hrs a day (this could be dex and no added minerals for either's fault, but it could be that and PFS for all I know).
--i think anxiety and depression and feeling like sticking thru this protocol is helped.

I really think 100% of stomach probs and stuff and inflammation causing arthritis, tiredness minus quitting substances (like coffee. which is temp. you quit randro/4andro.. tired, but later more awake better routine less brainfog more clear than ever. I refuse to believe dex was a mistake but it could have partially been.. maybe i can live off certain androgen cycles and dex for ADHD/hEDS(or HSD) and add HCG
--and no PFS. --and well managed conn. tissue disorder/ and ADHD and Autism (that may need some MDMA etc...).
--but I mean it begins to get confusing and i mean... why not add nicotine, and caffeine to that, now you are on 6meds or drugs. Which is fine if it works for a person, but one of the points of all of this
--is self reliance, and that means biochemically, energetically too.
-- I will do tei later anyways.


Chicken thighs like (I would never for like years and yrs or barely) a whole rotisserie chicken (should be a good price too, even non GMO, organic tho u may need a farm/ non gmo no hormone, green farm to get that at,.. tho Costco or whatever... in the UK should have it too I think). with the skin..

-the fatty meat is better
--for hormone prodn
--satiation...
--and like nutrient profile. b minerals/vitamins.
--maybe ur chemistry makes u crave chicken more.

 

[MNK99]

--my apologies bro long ass messages, when balanced. I am concise and precise. I am living off carnivore and trying not to fuck up and I am using ADHD medicine from 2021 for some reason.
--I didn't even do that, after PFS. IN 2018, I had fresh sources of medicine. I do here too but I really doubt that "it doesn't work", like my GP said. He's cool for other things. I mean if androgens and sarms some can last 2 yrs in a fridge, peptides like 30-60days, an amp.. or coke, in an airtight container/ away from light, should be a couple yrs. Prolly weaker.

--after TEI., i wrote like RWAC did kind of. Concise, very stoic.
--now I am talking about me, and you.. and it is all intertwined.

--basically your meatballs must have other ingreds.
--most your other food can too, we have to be really careful at least a yr, and if u feel perfect then... I don't know exactly why but if it is working for all health and you feel amazing/perfect, double that time..
-so you have a strong enough nervous system, digestion so nothing can harm you/ derail you off your path.
--SAME with TEI or if you ran TMO/CD's protocol, even if feeling cured... just give it another 5-6mo to be super cured and even more alpha.
--if 1 more yr of TEI cures you for instance... I don't know maybe take it or the 4-5 minerals u think that help you.. and you could switch em.

--not sure what all this is but I am guessing some ppl use these for various health issues/ syndromes/ chronic illnesses.
--I guess someone who knows what they are doing can detox with em. Maybe use some in the electrolyte protocol. IDK.
--I found it interesting:

Cell Salts helped this lady with PMMD (Post Menopausal Mood Disorder - which can be fucking crazy, depression, anxiety wise, etc).
And it helped her skin and hair (which is nice but obviously not as key as mental health).
Apparently they are in Germany and parts of Europe going back to the 1800s.

Maybe chickpeas also.. not bad aite as a source of carbs.. maybe I feel and am too restrictive. some beans are aite. I just know vegetarians have to eat way way more to get way way less protein and fat than an equivalent portion of red meat. Not to sound indoctrinated ("When did the Carnivores get to you??"). Also fibre and I mean if you don't cook them, they have toxins in them (probably. kidney beans, many things do).

Your food intolerance = tiredness? Or like depression or both?
Cut out whatever you think is hurting you.. add other things later, mostly like meat, sardines, maybe oysters like Tubzy (tho he is a Fast).

maybe stick to 2-3 carb sources or however many you tolerate, and 1-2 combined foods (like chickpeas.. find 1-2 things that are fat, protein, carb sources).

I'd forgoe most carbs and most dairy. If I just crashed like 2017-- red meat salt water only... for like 5mo then 8mo a year and then workout like crazy when more motivated
as neurosteroids- gaba, etc and neurotransmitters came back.

I'd still eat 100-150 myb g carbs, but 150-180grams of protein maybe more on gear (like randro/4andro), and 90-120grams of fat when adding strength. maybe in normal health rather bc that is like "2600 cals":. maybe add 1000-1300cals carefully to that, if on cycle.

Towards tenth day straight of carniv i was eating like 500cals 900cals. but ground beef rather gross. eggs, limited quantities (eat the yolk... we tolerate that better than whole eggs but agn depends on sourcing too... and how tolerant you are to it).

I also did shakes with salt spinach... simple electrolyte protocol.. and also whey and great lakes collagen and like... initially early in 2018 I took the super greens and stuff that chelated stuff and had spinach salt and b minerals in one shake, drinking some post workout or some pre and most post, and in dinner... and then a proper dinner/ or all cals at dinner minus 100-200cals when i cranked calories and was more lean and stronger and bigger.. so at 198lbs after randro/4andro, 180lbs after water fasting (but weaker/ bad ish body comp tho 10x better than pfs crash), 85-90% there in june july... and like 95% there end randro/4andro but ya i had 6-8lbs water, fluid, etc to lose.. maybe less. it went away automatically, i listened to my body and ate less.

Stick to TEI man. I think it will cure you.

If some food makes u unable to have digestion at all and you are not spending 6-8 weeks or whatever (some say 26 which is insane who has time for that but I can see that happening if someone is really ill or ate really badly for years on end), then maybe you gotta eliminate whatever is causing issues. Like the dairys and their plant materials cause me constipation.

ALSO for yrs mg, b certain ones, hcl and enzymes helped my digestion even with mcdonalds clean ish things there, or delivery... and some test/dht booster.
SURE less good digestion without upping test/dht... (my natural pct to randro/4andro that i took more of after TEI). and less good without mg, b. and enzymes/hcl.

i was gonna continue b6 or b12 and mg and enz and hcl forever but maybe don't need to with carniv. tho digestion takes days to weeks to get good. peak digestion was before and after tei for me.
it was better than like ever... tho androgens, some b minerals and mg, and enzymes can help even if i ate some trash like pizza (which i didn;t for like 16mo and had it like 2-3 x in 2.5-3 yrs).

TEI long term will fix stomach issues but we are still human and not bulletproof.... so eating clean or relatively is still wise even if ten days of messing up doesn't cause anxiety, depression, autism, or your by then fixed PFS issues... i mean why live and act suboptimally (outside of rare occasions).

First 2 yrs of recovery efforts, be SPARTAN about it. At least like 8mo-10mo.
If stall or reverse get back on a total health plan like TEI or the Electrolyte Protocol.

BUt no need to change em.. I did my electrolyte protocol with hella pink sea salt.. and the protein and carb and fat ratios and spinach etc.. that was in the "simplified electrolyte protocol".
I tracked my diet and added it.. and I was like the only one doing that... but if I find that I will add that. I think that is what made me have little toxicity if at all. May have had some hidden tho.

They were clean tho.

 

[Fazed22]

--tl;dr:
--copper bad.
-- chicken thighs fattier. and fattier meats in gen make sense.
--check the ingreds if there are 10 things in a meat.., not that bad still better than all processed carb foods (acc to Ken Berry, and others).
--meatballs prolly there's potato starch, maybe corn starch, a couple veg ingreds.
--make your own ground beef, you can add nice seasonings.. asian, indian, or like american (whatever ppl add in steaks or ground beef). I liked garlic, ginger, and like chives.
--add bok choi and arugula bro.
--oats i forget why but basically like cereal,.. just sugar sitting on your stomach.
--you sound like you lose fat easily so maybe that isn't a big deal, maybe I am biased but I think those cause your current food issues.
--my old ones i 2017 was me being destroyed/ hormones not working prolly ok ish in blood tests (mostly too sick to get em but I did have a stomach surgery so I got some -mandated).
--And toxicity/ things attacking my body, metals, parasites/ whatever who knows. Pathogens.
--AND later I assumed gluten and the like and dairy mostly.. but I ate pretty close to very clean whole foods paleo with some veg but then added a couple sauces from donair/shwarmera places I like.
--but only really clean good resteraunts, but then you don't know some places add fkd up things to even rice. I kept it clean tho... RICE + meat + veg. maybe 1-2 sauces, my fav herbs.. 2-3 resteraunts i trust
--mostly that for 3/4 of 2018... except when vegan, fasting... and like making it all on my own. I DID make fish, beef and stuff at home.
--just a note, less tasty but yeah man carnivore removes the indecision and needing for other stuff.
--if you are doing carniv or low carb or whatever, try and have dairy that has no other stuff in it, maybe make your kefir and or goat or raw cheese... to avoid crap from markets.
--and like.. skim milk and liquid dairy is worst... heavy cream and some hard cheeses and soft cheeses are best, made thru a process that eliminates (by bacteria) most sugar.
--don't buy like zero fat yogurt... make sure if u buy greek yogurt there's like 3-4 ingreds max, things like that.

I see.

Could be other stuff in the meatballs tho rite? i mean homemade dairy is way better (shredded cheese has cellulose). For yogurt and cheese
(yogurt... in Canada and the USA has pectin, guar, xanthan), and a lot of store bought grass fed meatballs have excipients (like potato starch, corn starch, seasoning, and other plant materials). I mean that's how I think for my Strict Carnivore at least.

Had I kept all my memecoin and leverage gains in recent 2-3mo, I'd just have like 80 steaks in my freezer and 3-4 in the fridge (I am really eating light, despite now being on 100mg-150mg test cream + 200mg test e injected a week, fuck it. I seriously think even with no PFS (which will happen, but yes I can do it "healthier" and all natty, and may in the future again. Tho hormones have their place).

Anyways, I see that meat can cause issues to some people but really in PFS, I have zero doubt it is due to messed up biome, parasites, yeast, fungus, bacteria. Maybe mostly the biome.
It takes weeks to months, some even 11mo-16mo to resolve. I mean most people probably never resolve it. People doing TEI, or liver flushes, fasting etc... aren't "most people". They're actively trying to fix general and overall health.

Man IDK... you have less issues with chicken then beef? Check the ingredients bro.
For sure, some people like chicken better but most doing what I am doing prefer the fattier meats and mostly beef. Like lamb burgers after not having em years and years were great.

Ground chuck is so much better than lean ground beef but that can do with butter (check ingredients there too, shouldn't be "skim milk"). Ghee when in doubt, and find the good brands in your area.
Perhaps nationally perhaps locally. Perhaps from a farm you drive down to (sounds like a pain in the ass but I definitely would, if I drove more).
or proscuito (from Italy, saying pork, salt, water, or maybe just pork and water).

Fatty cuts. I love tenderloins... I don't know if they are Fillet Mignons (acc to some Costco butchers they are). I think Fillet Mignons are really lean tho and thin... but who knows.
Fillet mignon/ Tenderloin and ribeyes... I could live off of forever and get like a collection of Redmond's salts and my other fav Himalayan Pink Sea Salt.

Even eggs, 3-4 might make tummy rumble, bc they eat soy and corn. FREE RANGE, no vits added, I think non pasteure eggs? (not heated, denaturing the protein) are better.
Your own hen's eggs or a friend's hen's eggs (not really realistic for many of us incl. me), are possibly even better. I KNOW health food store eggs> BOMB.

I had chicken cutlets one time in like 2months of trying carnivore (maybe 47/59 days? or maybe 45/60? IDk messed up a lot in stressful week/ family coming over/ not closing some of my best trades ever
then eating pure trash (stuff that would probably make me or keep me sick at 20 or as a kid.. stuff id never buy). "KETO SNACKS" i.e. with oils, hella oils, some brownie but way worse type snack. ONLY ate it due to compulsion/ addiction... sugar addiction (I mean I beat porn most the time, smoking, cocaine, antidepressants, tv as a kid, video games as a kid and young adult, running, internet, kind of leverage trades (Soon), I would not be surprised if eating sugar/ carbs 2 days in 16 or so is only due to mental and physical addiction. I guess coffee too I just beat or will in a couple months.. give it time).

They were ok but... i needed to add butter, still wanted more food needed like 5-6 were frozen. It is ok on keto (not as easy to stick to, lots of bad marketed things, your own keto making 90-100 percent at home sure...). There is more lee way tho. BRAIN FOG severe tiredness, anxiety, depression.. and just tension wrapped up in hyperfocus while staring at the screen... afterwards.

I think I can build a noble good routine with strict carnivore again. or water fasting. and surely with TEI but i mean in weeks.. I regret messing up on day 8 and then i think later day 9 or so.
Same time, lots of experts say it takes time to adapt, to get fat adapted... so maybe not so bad.. but yeah I won't get max AUTOPHAGY and MITOPHAGY and who knows maybe test will damage that.

REGARDLESS, I look better and more well kept but yeah I mean I can do a lot better too. I just want to focus and do well.
I'd look a lot better if it was 60 d straight or fasting 40d straight... I mean removing depression and not dragging self to shower, shaving every 2-3d I only do this in severe depression. O/W i shower 2x a day
and like workout daily. I feel better since pep talking myself and forcing myself to continue taking dex, and test cream + test e a bit, and a tiny bit of dermacrine (DHEA an PREG - may do zero.. and has some ingreds that are bad, and realistically HCG should make those anyways, and keep the lights on, intertesticular volume wise, semen production wise).

I think fixing semen long term --> HCG and then TEI. if ever fucked, HCG 6mo or so. Maybe Joekool's protocol or whatever the GP or Endo if I get one wants.. and not overthinking it (can go crazy and analysis paralysis --i mean look at me these days.. it is horrible, this shyt was gone mostly since late 20s and after pfs was nearly cured). I guess ASD and ADHD will keep screwing things up for me, so I want TEI,

BUt I want carniv too. and some meds? who cares. Ppl add minerals.. meds u should add minerals. My protocol is suboptimal and still good --> transition to more optimal with minerals --> super optimal just TEI and Carniv. My diet is 100% clear tho when I adhere. SO I need to make 14-21 days... I may remove dex and test cream... but I want to try IT and also add HCG
--tho maybe test cream only helps sex ability IDK 8-10hrs a day (this could be dex and no added minerals for either's fault, but it could be that and PFS for all I know).
--i think anxiety and depression and feeling like sticking thru this protocol is helped.

I really think 100% of stomach probs and stuff and inflammation causing arthritis, tiredness minus quitting substances (like coffee. which is temp. you quit randro/4andro.. tired, but later more awake better routine less brainfog more clear than ever. I refuse to believe dex was a mistake but it could have partially been.. maybe i can live off certain androgen cycles and dex for ADHD/hEDS(or HSD) and add HCG
--and no PFS. --and well managed conn. tissue disorder/ and ADHD and Autism (that may need some MDMA etc...).
--but I mean it begins to get confusing and i mean... why not add nicotine, and caffeine to that, now you are on 6meds or drugs. Which is fine if it works for a person, but one of the points of all of this
--is self reliance, and that means biochemically, energetically too.
-- I will do tei later anyways.


Chicken thighs like (I would never for like years and yrs or barely) a whole rotisserie chicken (should be a good price too, even non GMO, organic tho u may need a farm/ non gmo no hormone, green farm to get that at,.. tho Costco or whatever... in the UK should have it too I think). with the skin..

-the fatty meat is better
--for hormone prodn
--satiation...
--and like nutrient profile. b minerals/vitamins.
--maybe ur chemistry makes u crave chicken more.

Yes contains this but it is organic, they also do burgers which I get sometmes too.
British beef (95%), potato starch, sea salt*, black pepper, garlic powder, onion powder, antioxidant (ascorbic acid)*, rosemary extract

But this is a million times more tasty than other organic ground beef I buy - the taste is completely different and I can eat tons of these metaballs/burgers but if buy it from some other organic place it doesn't taste great and I don't want to eat much at all.

 

[Fazed22]

--my apologies bro long ass messages, when balanced. I am concise and precise. I am living off carnivore and trying not to fuck up and I am using ADHD medicine from 2021 for some reason.
--I didn't even do that, after PFS. IN 2018, I had fresh sources of medicine. I do here too but I really doubt that "it doesn't work", like my GP said. He's cool for other things. I mean if androgens and sarms some can last 2 yrs in a fridge, peptides like 30-60days, an amp.. or coke, in an airtight container/ away from light, should be a couple yrs. Prolly weaker.

--after TEI., i wrote like RWAC did kind of. Concise, very stoic.
--now I am talking about me, and you.. and it is all intertwined.

--basically your meatballs must have other ingreds.
--most your other food can too, we have to be really careful at least a yr, and if u feel perfect then... I don't know exactly why but if it is working for all health and you feel amazing/perfect, double that time..
-so you have a strong enough nervous system, digestion so nothing can harm you/ derail you off your path.
--SAME with TEI or if you ran TMO/CD's protocol, even if feeling cured... just give it another 5-6mo to be super cured and even more alpha.
--if 1 more yr of TEI cures you for instance... I don't know maybe take it or the 4-5 minerals u think that help you.. and you could switch em.

--not sure what all this is but I am guessing some ppl use these for various health issues/ syndromes/ chronic illnesses.
--I guess someone who knows what they are doing can detox with em. Maybe use some in the electrolyte protocol. IDK.
--I found it interesting:

Cell Salts helped this lady with PMMD (Post Menopausal Mood Disorder - which can be fucking crazy, depression, anxiety wise, etc).
And it helped her skin and hair (which is nice but obviously not as key as mental health).
Apparently they are in Germany and parts of Europe going back to the 1800s.

Was literally looking into tissue salts last few days for nerve issues, was thinking to buy the potassium phosphate one and also the iron one which is supposed to improve iron metabolism

 

[MNK99]

Nice.

Yeah my diet mess ups... I mean look coffee --> arthritic pain. I have degen discs and scoliosis diagnosed/ this happens to many weight lifters, but the scoliosis can also be genetic, degen disc could be ya from lifitng.

"keto snacks", must have been retoxification or detox reactions being hurt.

TIREDNESS after quitting coffee, I mean it is like a 21 year addiction or so.

I don't know for sure but I think coffee leads to more probs than say mustard (which can have black pepper - hi oxalate count, and various things, chardonay wine in Dijon, turmeric)

I will say lifting hardcore, with some A-GPC or citicholine, dex, creatine, Randro/4andro or CD's herbs before that (and of c whey, spinach, pink sea salt, OMAD mostly, carb backloading etc),
and having TURMERIC super turmeric x helped joint pain a lot.

I think carnivore alone or fasting alone helps joint pain more than turmeric well at lst it rqrs nothing mostly. And more than androgens. I am older tho but still. I am sure PFS caused me hella joint pain but I had so many other issues and I needed to "cleanse" and then work on nervous system and physical fitness.

I think androgens and test / dht boosters, anti estrogen, pro estrogen herbs (all which have some b minerals Helen said, "they are chock full of b vitamins", to paraphrase), I am sure that and chelation (the super greens in shakes, with whey) i am sure CATABOLISING BAD CELLS + BUILDING GOOD CELLS/mitochondria etc
got rid of pain.

Likewise Carniv should and probably water fasting does that too or you rebuild later, and the catabolism does its work.

It is quite possible optimal health needs eb and flow between catabolism and anabolism. Death and rebuilding of cells. Of our very state of being.

 

[MNK99]

British beef (95%), potato starch, sea salt*, black pepper, garlic powder, onion powder, antioxidant (ascorbic acid)*, rosemary extract

TBH On strict carnivore (which I am attempting like 2mo or almost. With like 6d in a row 3x at least and 5d here and there, and 8 d an 9d maybe), I woudn't have it except maybe in the beginning or like well into it, deep into ketosis maybe (we are never always in ketosis, most people anyways. There is also gluconeogenesis).

It really isn't that bad... In 2018, I probably would eventually have that, like say using cologne or certain detergents (after going crazy and having only natural stuff, wanting no endocrine disruptors).
But FASTING and intermittent fasting and like TEI and say chelators in super greens... and lifting hard and any of the major protocols should be strong enough to get rid of any issue there.

Maybe garlic powder, black pepper, potato starch, onion powder, maybe rosemary... mess you up but I never bought into any of that and still had to live and got takeout eventually like 7-8mo into lifting.. trusting that Randro/4andro, ru486 early on, water fasting before that, was strong enough.

I think most people felt that way but I did read lots of reports of people crashing off all kinds of things or going backwards. I luckily never did, after 2017. However, yes I went backwards from total recovery.
Probably needed HCG (which is why I was a bit upset we didn't discuss that more here). I mean eventually we will have water, air, and this and that... there's toxicity here and there, everywhere.

Maybe when super healthy, I can fast 30-40d a yr to be peak 99th or higher percentile healthy. RITE now less fit than I was Fall and winter of 2018 and beyond, I mean... for true carniv I can't have any of that.
I wouldn't lose my mind if I ate it at a friend's house.

I would however be wary maybe bc of insulin spikin (protein does that anyways and takes people out of ketosis). Maybe I should have worried more later, and just stuck to mineral balancing. I think TEI or hormones are stronger than these excipients when body is working really well... in its detox mechanisms. IN PFS state, or in an extreme-ish diet like carniv... ideally I wouldn't have it.

Take more effort but maybe just getting stuff from the butcher is better. BUT I would wager that carb containing foods have worse ingredients. Normal ppl that is probably completely fine or near it.
THEN again most ppl have like 91 percent have 1-2 chronic conditions (Not like PFS but say fatigue or arthritis).

Up to you, I would try and eat as cleanly as possible but I mean I wouldn't get too agitated or worried if at all possible, not that you seem so.
TEI or himalayan pink sea salt... detoxing with electrolyte protocol, maybe actual electrolytes, and TEI should be stronger than that.

Breads, rice, oatmeal and stuff have gluten, lecitens, are sprayed with glyocphosphate. EVEN still maybe a tiny hit to digestion but eventually hcl and enzymes or normal functioning will deal with that.

IF you have another chronic condition like some had lyme, some had say Ulcerative colitis, maybe it is best to be super clean. And really in 21 days-45 days it is like second nature.
BUT I mean you very well may not live like that forever, it is hard. It is probably impossible to avoid all toxins, subpar nutrition, excipients forever.

Some do it I am sure but we gotta live our lives too bro.
I'd wager more on carbs or some detox pathways/ hormonal pathways being blocked.

AND TEI should get u there, maybe add the cell salts? @RebelWithACause @bruschi11 ? If you get a chance.

Maybe I buy those... and use them or use the general one... and use that instead of supps and run test cream + dex + strict carnivore and later same thing with HCG. And then maybe while on TEI or instead maybe.

I do notice that CD/TMO and ELECTROLYTE PROTOCOL here are more similar to my bodybuilding diet and have carbs and carb backloading, but I am trying to heal ASD etc too and the connective tissue disorder. I want to set and forget and eventually I will. But these next few months, yeah I will have some bloodwork, some appointments. And I likely will add HCG. I really hope this isn't 500-2000 dollars a mo.
They restricted production. O/W I will keep getting Pregnyl from UGL and get the rite containers and make it myself. I trust the pharmacy to do that at least tho... but you never know.

Trust issues is why it was so hard to get a therapist for the neurodevelopmental disorders, studying etc, and a GP, or trust pharmacists.
Made it harder to get say TEST cream in 2019 2020 or 2018... and HCG. I'd prolly be beyond cured still with HCG then. AND I don't know why but I think my chemistry was better then and ANAVAR and test cream, hcg would have worked well... like randro/4andro did. Probably HCG was needed eventually like in 2020 2021 for sure and earlier the better.

PCT to all the stuff I DID. THO electrolyte protocol helped a lot. I IMAGINE if carniv helps anxiety and depression... 2mo it will be way better. 5-6mo way way better and I won't worry over PFS, and I will just
take HCG and then TEI and carniv are second nature... eventually and it is nothing to think about again.

I also think that, test cream potentially helping anxiety and depression (for wide array of conditions who knows maybe minerals or detox is better with it for some ppl), it will eventually help sex fn more.
Even so, HCG on it, and after it if that happens, would also help a lot.

IF I have no want for any meds or protocols, maybe carniv forever but I believe adding tei will speed up overall health improvements and life improvements and it helps ppl with PTSD, ASD.
Carniv too. I JUST THINK that the mental block of a tiny bit of PFS remaining hurts me, and well.. HCG will make that quicker.

PUMP LH.

I could go add minerals, cell salts, 3-4 herbs and pump LH that way but I mean I am only drinking water, no whey (that led to a cheat, with milk and this and that, then bread). Maltodextrin, sugar stuff etc.
And messed up my stomach.

It will take 6-8 weeks maybe for digestion to be good on carnivore maybe 4-5 weeks straight. Less digestion than when eating plants/fibre but more food is utilized.

 

[MNK99]

Yes contains this but it is organic, they also do burgers which I get sometmes too.
British beef (95%), potato starch, sea salt*, black pepper, garlic powder, onion powder, antioxidant (ascorbic acid)*, rosemary extract

But this is a million times more tasty than other organic ground beef I buy - the taste is completely different and I can eat tons of these metaballs/burgers but if buy it from some other organic place it doesn't taste great and I don't want to eat much at all.

Fast long enough, workout hard enough... while on the randro/4andro or in general (later) and you'll eat whatever. LOL it is true, but it does get boring. I feel you on that.

CHUCK, tastes better.. than ground beef.

Maybe a farm connection is good and just buy the minimum but still I mean grass fed beef a lot tastes not great. Fasting 28-30 hrs it isn't so bad tho.
Some seasoning.

If you don't have a ton of food intolerances, season with whatever suits you. Mustard, hot sauce, chives... garlic or ginger or both, you can make it really well at home too bro.
It is a pain in the ass initially for sure, but things become second nature.

I don't think those would mess me up per se, but I wouldn't risk it for arthritis and anxiety, depression reasons.

While PFS and getting more education eventually were my main concerns, I think that it'd be fine... but I also had large stacks of vitamins/minerals, then more condensed it was pretty condensed esp after the randro/4andro cycle tbh. I lost gelatin and this and that, i was down to 4-5 for a couple yrs and mostly it was bc of hypermobility/joints/stimulant medication/digestion. Nothing really to do with PFS.

BUT when treating pfs, i had so much stuff that those wouldn't be an issue. Turmeric, whey, enzymes, eating every like 22 or 24hrs, post lifting hard.. but yes we are all at different stages.

Not surprised if it is other food causing you issues. Maybe more TEI and or cell salts... and later you can fast if you want... but I mean those should help.

 

[MNK99]

I wonder if people that know what suits em... long run just use cell salts. If it helps with med side effects or their chronic condition.
I also wonder if some combo can eliminate quickly. BUT just LIKE TEI or the electrolyte protocol here, how do you know you're done? I felt done, but needed more I believe.

Maybe for a time I refused to believe it.

Nah didn't really change my appearance of muscle gains, I did take TEI one day in spain and I felt like it was working properly for once and felt all hormones working properly and stuff, but then I had ice cream, gluten/glyphosate there and the next days I didn't feel like taking it at all and if I did take it would cause issues after eating those things.

Probably TEI worked for me day one (not sure it would now, just like I am sure anavar would in 2018-2020-2021, more balanced presumably), because of electrolyte protocol all year and randro/4andro, and longterm water fasting.

This is the reason I want to do TEI or any mineral balancing besides a few here and there, after being deep into keto, autophagy, and the like... probably pre mitochondrial reset (2 years), but at least when mitophagy has had a chance.
I want to do TEI when I am fitter and healthier. NOT bc I fear TEI, but rather so I don't get disappointed. A clean clena diet.. preceding it can help.

However, if this is your main intervention, I am sure the next cycle and others will help a lot. That could be a window... and a sign of good things to come. I am sure there are people that are doing badly on TEI the whole cycle, get off of it, and do well.

It wasn't all roses, 4andro/randro cycle (I mean both together), I had more agitation. That and dex, and getting strong again, and pumping DHT, for sure I had more of a temper (autism, ADHD also, isolation).
Your TEI now could be like me if I mess up carnivore.. or like I mean 3 weeks 5weeks 20 weeks straight will be like 10x-20x times better than say 20/25days.

Strict adherence if you can, but nothing wrong with trying something else or maybe working with a practitioner. AS to why it would work so well ONE DAY in Spain... no idea bro.
But there are windows in these conditions, mostly in PSSD I thought people talked about. Maybe I just notice levels, large quantitative and qualitative improvements.

Whatever protocol you choose, see it through. I will again too. Trying rite now... mostly am. TEI now and no meds, I'd prolly be tired , groggy, detox a lot but I assume energy levels, mood, happiness will be better on just Carnivore long run, then adding that. I may wait till I lose other meds.

 

[Fazed22]

Maybe garlic powder, black pepper, potato starch, onion powder, maybe rosemary... mess you up but I never bought into any of that and still had to live and got takeout eventually like 7-8mo into lifting.. trusting that Randro/4andro, ru486 early on, water fasting before that, was strong enough.

Nah this beef that has those things I feel good from, they are in tiny amounts in these metballs. It also has ascorbic acid in the ingredients too so maybe that is the reason why I am able to eat way more of this beef than other organic ground beef because it would be helping with iron absorption

Breads, rice, oatmeal and stuff have gluten, lecitens, are sprayed with glyocphosphate. EVEN still maybe a tiny hit to digestion but eventually hcl and enzymes or normal functioning will deal with that.

Ever since my gallbladder first went wrong a few years ago I became sensitive to any foods that had something toxic in it eg: rice I really don't feel good from it anymore probably because of the arsenic or aflatoxin and I used to eat huge amounts of rice without issues before my gallbladder went wrong. So I can tell pretty easily if a food is toxic now or not as my diet is extremely low toxic and organic so I can easily tell when I eat a food that is toxic.

CHUCK, tastes better.. than ground beef.

Steak is another thing that I haven't been able to eat ever since my gallbladder went wrong some years ago, now if I eat steak I get liver/gallbladder pain which never used to happen before, ground beef I have no issues eating though its weird. They say steak is much harder on digestion than ground beef so maybe that is why. I have even tried stewing muscle meat and it still causes the same issues for me. Would love to be able to eat steak again but I think I need to some serious liver cleansing first.