Yura log

[RebelWithACause]

When I feel high copper I get rage irritation, resentful sometimes. And maybe racing thoughts, anxiety sometimes. For me it's mostly irritation, resentfulness. I can become real nasty human temporarily if I don't hold myself in lol.

But when my copper is too low I get depression, low libido, low confidence/dopamine, low ability to enjoy things, etc. it's just as worse

 

[Yura]

Just got back from the lab. Did the vit A and again copper/ceruloplasmin and I also tested DHEAs. I think it will be very low. Good sign of adrenal burnout.. ALso tested uric acid. It seems like good indirect test of molybdenum status. THe guy Elvin who did the interviews with HG7 protocol guy has machine for testing uric acid. So he was constantly adjusting molybdenum dosage depending on uric acid level..
If my DHEAs will be completely tanked and vit A low I will start with liver and probably try some adrenal glandular supplement.. That will start dumping copper for sure.. But this time I can be prepared with histidine, molybdenum etc.. Wheres before that I did nothing to lower that free copper so it just damaged my tissues for long time..

But the worst part is that I don't even know if I am really copper toxic.. WHat if I have legit copper deficiency.. Why is my estrogen deficient. Like I can't rise ceruloplasmin with tanked estrogen.. Maybe I really do need some copper. Results from the lab will be next week that sucks.. I think I will try some liver just to see what it does to me. If I jump out of my skin from it or I will feel like human again..

 

[RebelWithACause]

I doubt you need the liver but you can test it of course. I am curious about your lab results.

 

[Yura]

I am as well. It just sucks that I don't have it tested when I was really vit A toxic.. So I can't really compare that number to anything.. But people who do low vit A see slow decrease in that number over the years. I mean if that number will still be somewhere in the middle of the range after 7 years of not ingesting any significant amount of vit A that would clearly show how little vit A I need and that I should stay low vit A for sure.. But I don't think I would run into issues by eating for example 100g of liver spread out to 2 weeks for example.. I think that would make sure I have some retinol intake and at the same time I would still stay way under RDA.. The thing is I was consuming like 5 times RDA on average easily.. During Ray Peat diet.. During root cause protocol. IT was like 2 years of heavy vit A intake for sure. Outside of that during my bodybuilding days 6 eggs every single day easily + multivitamins like ANIMAL PACK where is shit load of vit A etc..

 

[RebelWithACause]

Makes sense I luckily never went down the Ray Peat road except consuming extra sugar and coffee. Never did the liver thing, etc. I think that's why liver is dangerous unless you have a very good metabolism otherwise you'll just store more of the stuff that's in it

 

[Yura]

Have some results back. Again kidneys and liver have hard time. Ceruloplasmin dropped from 0.21 to 0.18 from moth ago.. DHEAs not so crazy bad. Need to wait for copper and vit A..
Why would I have elevated liver and kidney markers all the time. It has to be toxicity right.. Btw that fucked up histidine powder I will send back, but I will keep like 50g hehe and saw on their webside TUDCA for great price(hopefully it is not some fake) So they will send me that instead.. I also have ordered nutricost TUDCA that will be legit for sure. Will se how it can help my organs..
Elevated enzymes and creatinin is sign of toxicity, but low white blood cells and neutrophils is classic sign of copper deficiency..

https://imgur.com/a/roH8dsK

 

[RebelWithACause]

Copper deficiency causes low DHEA right? Pretty sure it does.

 

[Yura]

I have to wait for that vit A so I can decide if I should start with A. Maybe that is the limiting factor for ceruloplasmin production now.. I should probably drop zinc and molybdenum for now otherwise that ceruloplasmin will drop even more.. My issues is low bioavailable copper and zinc with molybdenum just make it worse..

 

[RebelWithACause]

yea i also felt worse when you over do it and it's not herxheimer. just feel like shit low estrogen low energy. etc.

 

[RebelWithACause]

Suspected Copper Deficiency. Thoughts And Ideas

Hi! I suspect I might have a copper deficiency. Been trying to find a blood test for it here in Sweden but haven't found one yet. I've ordered a blood test to measure zinc, haemoglobin and some other health values to see if anything seems wrong. Anyway reason why I think I might have a copper...

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I think this guy his ceruloplasmin went up he ate liver, copper, iron, etc. But this only works if you are deficient and not copper toxic and have a good metabolism

 

[ruprmurdoch]

1.i think it is not the rule that low dhea = copper deficency. i have low copper in blood an the same low lvl of cerlulo like yura have over there but high lvls of dhea-s.
2.rebel your post above abt how you feel this copper rage is describing the same feeling like mine. i am currently on zn/mn and this feeling is little bit weaker after one week on this combo
3.yura in october 2021 i was diagnosed by tei as a slow oxi. i was supplementing almost the same dosages like they wrote me. and in hair copper rise from 1,1 to 1,4 in two months. zn and mn were strong point of their supplementation.

Copper deficiency causes low DHEA right? Pretty sure it does.

 

[Yura]

I feel weird when I take manganese like pressure oxidative stress in my head or something. I am not taking it. Manganese absorption is elevated along with copper during high estrogen(that I had from steroids) and also manganese is eliminated exactly the same as copper with bile only basically. I think I am high in manganese as well.. I will take zinc only if I will eat beef liver for retinol and copper to keep the ratio like 10:1 zinc to copper.. Otherwise I will just wait for the hair test... Started taking TUDCA. Maybe that will help the liver..

 

[Yura]

Suspected Copper Deficiency. Thoughts And Ideas

Hi! I suspect I might have a copper deficiency. Been trying to find a blood test for it here in Sweden but haven't found one yet. I've ordered a blood test to measure zinc, haemoglobin and some other health values to see if anything seems wrong. Anyway reason why I think I might have a copper...

lowtoxinforum.com

I think this guy his ceruloplasmin went up he ate liver, copper, iron, etc. But this only works if you are deficient and not copper toxic and have a good metabolism

Yeah I wish it would be so simple for me. Just take bunch of copper and collagen issues solved.. It is about balance vit C, copper, zinc everything together. So far I was not able to figure out that ideal ratio.. When copper dump happens vit C crashes that's for sure. For now my priority really is fucked up collagen. Zinc can only worsen this condition. So I am done with zinc for now. Same thing molybdenum. Now i have to figure out what is good dose of vit C and copper and if I need some vit A as well now or not. Hopefully result of that retinol test will come soon.. Now I play with the idea of taking 1/2 of copper gluconate tablet which is 1mg. Just to see what it does because I always assumed eating buckwheat(1mg of copper per 100g) and feeling bad= I don't need copper, but maybe it is not copper that fucks me up, but oxalates for example in that buckwheat.. I should try to find somewhere squid/calamari. It has 2mg of copper per 100g cooked and that is what I was eating a lot in Croatia and had great bile flow.. But I think big factors was also swimming in sea water. all that sodium it makes you hydrated like anything else..

 

[RebelWithACause]

I always looked dehydrated after swimming but day after looked more hydrated. But yea swimming in sea water really nice. Hopefully becomes better weather soon then I can go to the beach again and swim.

 

[Yura]

Yeah swimming in the sea in Netherlands is little different hehe. I wanted to go to Netherlands work some shit job in warehouse or something, but with my health I gave up on it..

 

[RebelWithACause]

Yeah swimming in the sea in Netherlands is little different hehe. I wanted to go to Netherlands work some shit job in warehouse or something, but with my health I gave up on it..

It's possible but housing is very expensive now for everyone, it's ridiculous at this point. Groceries also expensive. It's way worse than Germany for example. Germany is cheap for me.

The sea side of The Netherlands is very nice in my opinion but even more expensive to live so I drive 1 hour from where I live to the sea.

It's crazy how much effect inflation has on this country, way worse than others.

I think it's better to be in the country you were born it's just easier if you are unhealthy. I do the same. I wanted to go to Japan but the diet there is not good for my health to heal and if you want to eat very differently you will have to cook yourself all the time and buy foods that are not popular there as much so you pay more.

 

[Yura]

I think I would go insane in Netherlands. I hate wind, rain, flat land with no hills and if I can't go somewhere where is nobody around me like at least 1km each direction HAHAHAHAHA.

 

[RebelWithACause]

I think I would go insane in Netherlands. I have wind, rain and flat land with no hills HAHAHAHAHA.

Yes it's a taste you have to like. I like the view of a flat land into the horizon when sun sets it's beautiful. But a lot of people who are used to mountains they don't like it. NL also has some nice forests and the sea is good in my opinion. North sea.

But it's extremely full, way too many people on a small area of land. This ruins a lot of the vibe of The Netherlands. I remember when I was a kid during summer it was extremely quiet everywhere especially in villages. Peaceful. Now you don't even notice it's summer vacation. There's cars, people, etc. everywhere.

You are from Czech? It's nice too.

 

[Yura]

Yeah Czech Rep. is ok. But you don't have god pay job you are fucked. Working some hard manual labor job so you can afford 1 small 1 room apartment with bathroom, some food and basic stuff and that's about it.. But in terms of how safe it is, cost of lab tests for example that is ok. At least something.. I can also go 10 minute on the bike outside of the city and be alone in the middle ow nowhere. I like to sit in hunting stand and just relax with nobody around me. Btw I live in Olomouc. Which is also pretty flat area hehe..
Here is photo from the place where I live. Flat as pancake. When it's nice day I can see 1500m hill Praděd. Can't beleive I was there on a bike. 3 hour there and 3 hours back=160km. Another epic ride was on Dlouhé stráně which is the biggest reverse water turbine in Europe. THat is next to Praděd. It is on top of the hill crazy.. I love cycling, but it sucks so much energy from you. It kept me in adrenal burnout for years.. I think it caused a lot of oxidative stress..

https://imgur.com/a/E1VLXuS

https://imgur.com/a/B0Rnfl3

 

[RebelWithACause]

Looks nice dude