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Yes you need to stop the thyroid I think and then build up. This is why nothing works for you now.
Yes you need to stop the thyroid I think and then build up. This is why nothing works for you now.
Hehe great and this is the time where I need to start working or I will be broke as fuck. This will be interesting hehe. I hope that I will not fall into some coma like people are saying when they stop with synthroid etc.. Any recommendations what I should do or don't do? So I have bigger chance to survive?
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Hehe great and this is the time where I need to start working or I will be broke as fuck. This will be interesting hehe. I hope that I will not fall into some coma like people are saying when they stop with synthroid etc.. Any recommendations what I should do or don't do? So I have bigger chance to survive?
Raincoast stopped his thyroids and got rebuilt, just like you. Check out his log.
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Hm but he started with thyroid because of Peat and not because he had TSH 11 and felt like death.. But I will stop anyway because this is getting nowhere..
I bought cysteine amino acid and when i take it my body becomes extremely cold after 20-30 minutes.
Also I noticed my body becomes colder and more tired after spinach, similar effect that i get from thorne!
I would need some clarification for these issues. Im doing the hair test soon with ARL.
Im doing the b1 experiment that you suggested for me and what I noticed is my voice is somewhat deeper, I have very strong morning erections and very good, enjoyable dreams like boxing, fighting etc. During the daytime libido is sometimes better than baseline, sometimes not.
Regardgin motivation it is still not much compared to the tribulus or r andro snap back. Those put me the closest to my old self.
In the winter I was taking pine pollen with brewers yeast and i had similar libido like pre pfs. I will add pine pollen to this b1 and cycle some tribulus and butea superba.
Just got bloodwork/labs results,
TSH was near 8 after stopping thryroid, Is now 2.01
Total Cholesterol was near 9, Is now around 5 (mine is always high)
CRP is down from 4 to 0.9
Ferritin is:
48
24-444
ug/L
Potassium is:
4.1
3.5-5.0
mmol/L
Sodium:
142
135-145
mmol/L
Electrolytes seem dialled, increasing Lysine & C for ferritin to increase more
Feeling great!
TSH was near 8 after stopping thryroid, Is now 2.01
Total Cholesterol was near 9, Is now around 5 (mine is always high)
CRP is down from 4 to 0.9
Ferritin is:
48
24-444
ug/L
Potassium is:
4.1
3.5-5.0
mmol/L
Sodium:
142
135-145
mmol/L
Electrolytes seem dialled, increasing Lysine & C for ferritin to increase more
Feeling great!
Admiral
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Will be breaking my three week water/Breuss fast tomorrow. I could go longer, but I look like a junky and I've gone from 80KG to 69KG, but still have stubborn abdominal fat. Biggest issue is that my gums are actually doing way worse now. They bleed and some parts recede heavily. This terrifies me and I don't get why they do. Anyone willing to shed a light on that?
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Don't be terrified about anything. You just fasted for 21 days, weird things are going to happen. Don't even look at yourself, don't worry about your fat. I know this stuff is hard, but eventually you'll understand.
Work on your re-feed for a bit now. Honestly man, I saw that you want to try RU 10 days after your refeed and coming from someone that fasted 21 days then did RU 2 weeks later- I'd abort it.
I'd work on nothing but health and balancing for the next several months now. Become a health addict. Read @Niles log. Start walking, lifting weights if you can. Sauna or infrared red lamps. Coffee enemas. Just start going man- you're fast is over your body is in prime shape to start taking in nutrients to become healthier and healthier. Down the line if you need it then you can revert to RU and the hormonal stuff.
Right now you need to focus on health. You are sick. I regret the past four months. Sure I can have sex better now with my two RU/prog runs and messing around with aminos/betaine HCL, but I know if I aborted the hormonal attack (as @Niles wisely has done) I'd be feeling so much better than I currently do and have on the day to day.
Honestly maybe 1 RU/prog run or andro run a couple months or so after your fast might not be stupid. But I'd give yourself a couple months after your fast to make yourself healthy as can be. I know that hearing "months" can sound like a long time but you just fasted 21 days man. Make it worth the while. I'd do anything to go back 4 months and change some of the things I did post fast.
Work on your re-feed for a bit now. Honestly man, I saw that you want to try RU 10 days after your refeed and coming from someone that fasted 21 days then did RU 2 weeks later- I'd abort it.
I'd work on nothing but health and balancing for the next several months now. Become a health addict. Read @Niles log. Start walking, lifting weights if you can. Sauna or infrared red lamps. Coffee enemas. Just start going man- you're fast is over your body is in prime shape to start taking in nutrients to become healthier and healthier. Down the line if you need it then you can revert to RU and the hormonal stuff.
Right now you need to focus on health. You are sick. I regret the past four months. Sure I can have sex better now with my two RU/prog runs and messing around with aminos/betaine HCL, but I know if I aborted the hormonal attack (as @Niles wisely has done) I'd be feeling so much better than I currently do and have on the day to day.
Honestly maybe 1 RU/prog run or andro run a couple months or so after your fast might not be stupid. But I'd give yourself a couple months after your fast to make yourself healthy as can be. I know that hearing "months" can sound like a long time but you just fasted 21 days man. Make it worth the while. I'd do anything to go back 4 months and change some of the things I did post fast.
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+1 on this, after the fast the proper re-feed is key, the fast is to destroy you not heal you, refeed is the healing. I am only 4 months post long fast and the rebuild is still taking shape, and loving it every morning.
Focus on proper food, ARL program, liver flushes, sleep, exercise, friends... I would avoid hormones, they will probably just unbalance you again.
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Exactly- what we have to realize that while PFS is its own specific imbalance, because you are sick you have other awful shitty imbalances. The fast and reefed is to fix the other imbalances and hopefully the PFS comes with it. Thing is, if you just go after the PFS with RU initially, those other imbalances aren't going to heal themselves.
I mean eventually I'm all for hormonal manipulation. I tried it and yea it works to a degree. No doubt. But when you're sick (like me and you), I think health stuff comes first and foremost.
And don't forget, you can mess around with aminos. My best PFS days thus far were actually during amino play rather than hormone play to be completely honest.
For now I would take either progesterone or R andro after RU but not both. I would start Randro couple days after you finish RU, IMO. I would keep good notes on progress. Has anyone taken both Randro and progesterone during same cycle?
