Admiral’s PFS Log.. ARL/TEI since march 2018

tanedout

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Not convinced. I've had 4 cycles and no gains to show for it. @Helen keeps mentioning how I didn't test my hair properly, but the results stay the same even after taking nothing, twice.

My diet was fine. Lots of vegetables, meat and brown rice as carbs.

I'll try R-Andro and then might call it quits. I'm so done with this shit.

I'm not all that convinced either, but I was hoping it would lead to some recoveries. I think it's still be worth a go, and it's good that lots of people have tried it/are trying it.

CDnuts protocol still seems like the method with the most success really
 

Goose12

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Not convinced. I've had 4 cycles and no gains to show for it. @Helen keeps mentioning how I didn't test my hair properly, but the results stay the same even after taking nothing, twice.

My diet was fine. Lots of vegetables, meat and brown rice as carbs.

I'll try R-Andro and then might call it quits. I'm so done with this shit.
Just take the supps for a month or two and see what happens. You did the hard part by taking nothing for two months.
Follow tei religiously with nothing else.

Without focussing on sexual sides have you seen improvements at all from previous cycles?
 

Admiral

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Just take the supps for a month or two and see what happens. You did the hard part by taking nothing for two months.
Follow tei religiously with nothing else.

Without focussing on sexual sides have you seen improvements at all from previous cycles?

Goose, I've had these suggestions for the past few cycles now and it did nothing other than make me aggressive like a gorilla on roids.
 

Goose12

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I'm not all that convinced either, but I was hoping it would lead to some recoveries. I think it's still be worth a go, and it's good that lots of people have tried it/are trying it.

CDnuts protocol still seems like the method with the most success really
Me and @RebelWithACause are having huge success. @tonysoprano is doing great also.
 

RebelWithACause

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If you do the Dutch version make sure you add the calcium + magnesium + vitamin D to the Sympia (AKA EMULATE the original SYMPACK). I learned this after 2 cycles. @Ingeno @Admiral

Also if you are a fast oxidizer and you don't eat dairy that is not good. I sometimes eat a lot of dairy. Like 1l full fat yoghurt + milk. It helps a lot. In the beginning had some stomach discomfort but now I digest it like it is nothing.

Plus you need more fats too.

You need to slow the F down. You will feel tired sometimes too because of this.

Unless I understand it wrong - meat + veggies + brown rice is not a fast oxidizer diet. It is not terrible but you need the dairy if you did not eat that. Just sayin'.

I am seeing big results with TEI on this cycle. But it took suffering for 4 months - never missing a supplement and living like a saint. I never had the feeling it did not do anything. Every cycle did something but sometimes I ended up feeling bad. It was a rollercoaster.

Maybe this was also caused by the lack of calcium and magnesium in the Sympia product. So add those in. I am telling you it makes the side effects less intense.

For me this is also still an experiment and I look at myself objectively as possible. And with that I can say I made good improvements from TEI - my life is very liveable.

But it could be TEI is not for you. Then you do something else. There are plenty of other people not doing TEI and they are getting improvements as well.
 

Goose12

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Goose, I've had these suggestions for the past few cycles now and it did nothing other than make me aggressive like a gorilla on roids.
That's how powerful these supps are. They are doing something. Even if they make you feel worse they are moving you in the right direction.

You are extremely sick and have been like this for so long you probably don't realize how bad you are. You are the equivalent to someone with cancer, I was in the same boat. Without looking at sexual sides my symptoms list was huge. I have improved so much it's ridiculous.

Just have faith in the program. You are wasting time taking anything else at this point.
 

Admiral

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If you do the Dutch version make sure you add the calcium + magnesium + vitamin D to the Sympia. I learned this after 2 cycles. @Ingeno @Admiral

Also if you are a fast oxidizer and you don't eat dairy that is not good. I sometimes eat a lot of dairy. Like 1l full fat yoghurt + milk. It helps a lot. In the beginning had some stomach discomfort but now I digest it like it is nothing.

Plus you need more fats too.

You need to slow the F down. You will feel tired sometimes too because of this.

Unless I understand it wrong - meat + veggies + brown rice is not a fast oxidizer diet. It is not terrible but you need the dairy if you did not eat that. Just sayin'..

That was my diet in a nutshell. I eat plenty of fats and full milk as well. If anyone is following these diets and this lifestyle it's me.
The only thing I didn't add was the vitamin D, but I try to catch the sun as much as possible. I don't drink, do drugs, drink caffein or eat refined sugars.

I wish I could be more positive.
 

RebelWithACause

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That was my diet in a nutshell. I eat plenty of fats and full milk as well. If anyone is following these diets and this lifestyle it's me.
The only thing I didn't add was the vitamin D, but I try to catch the sun as much as possible. I don't drink, do drugs, drink caffein or eat refined sugars.

I wish I could be more positive.

OK that's good. Add in the calcium + magnesium + vitamin D next supp round to the Sympia (which lacks it). I think you are just really bad Admiral. Very sick. Maybe worse than others so it is harder. No need to give up.

If I were you I would get on the program and just keep trucking. That would be me. Not sure how R-Andro is going to get you out of a sick state except maybe put you at a higher baseline. It's gonna take a bit of detachment doing this program since it will not always be good.
 

Admiral

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I'm not taking in all that copper when 75% of my problems are from copper toxicity. Taking in all that extra copper on my last few cycles might only have set me back further.
 

Goose12

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That was my diet in a nutshell. I eat plenty of fats and full milk as well. If anyone is following these diets and this lifestyle it's me.
The only thing I didn't add was the vitamin D, but I try to catch the sun as much as possible. I don't drink, do drugs, drink caffein or eat refined sugars.

I wish I could be more positive.
Rebel is right. The worse you are the harder it is to see improvements and the longer it takes. I still have my doubts every now and then but then I think, "wtf look how far you have come". As time goes on those doubts creep in less and less.
 

RebelWithACause

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I'm not taking in all that copper when 75% of my problems are from copper toxicity. Taking in all that extra copper on my last few cycles might only have set me back further.

Well then you have your answer. You get off TEI and try something else. If they keep recommending copper and you don't want to take the copper then it is worthless to do the hair test. There are more than 1 ways to Rome. Or you do ARL.

It could be they give you a lot of copper and after that they do something else. That is why you keep the tests short. If you are scared of it you can do a 6 week cycle. Maybe you need the copper but it causes unpleasant stuff coming up.

For example on zinc the first two cycles I had no emotions even though bad stuff happened (people dying) - now on copper I feel sometimes a bit down from that. Which is normal human stuff.

It is not the copper causing it. It is suppressed stuff coming up - this is paired with tiredness.

If you have been dealing with this crap for 13 years I can guarantee you are going to feel shitty from time to time - if you really heal the body. Even when you get better and better you will probably feel shitty because you live in a fog for 13 years. Stuff will come up because you have more energy to deal with it. And also the awareness.

So even though you get better you will have to deal with some unpleasant stuff which can make you feel worse. The brain is very much in the moment. That is why I always look at how I started to have a good comparison and not on a weekly or daily basis.
 

Admiral

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@Admiral

Cu 84,7 ug/dl
Zn 84,31 ug/dl
Cerulo 24 g/L

ratio cu/zn = 1.00

bound: 72
unbound 12,7
NCC: 14%

The 14% was my free copper level about a year ago (reference range was 5-20%), but Helen thought it was high.

I think 14% is high. You must be either low oxidizer or 4 lows fast oxidizer

.. and yes, I am a fast one in four lows now.

Everything is contradictory.
 

sanka

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Maybe talking with your tei practitioner and he can explain you what are they planning to do
 

bruschi11

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HTMA just isn’t everything when it comes to body chemistry. I just wish you guys could all realize that. Htma is a big part of it, but to think its the absolute way to fix each and every person on the planet is absolutely ludicrous.

That being said, do I think every single person on the planet should "obey HTMA".. yes I do.

There's obeying HTMA, then there's thinking its the only way to beat disease. The latter is just crazy.

Body chemistry is the collection of minerals, vitamins, fats, aminos, beneficial bacteria, pathogens, viruses, yeasts/fungus, toxins, heavy metals.. maybe a bit more but not much. HTMA is great representative of minerals/vitamins, specific metals and toxins, but its hard to say what is going on exactly everywhere else.

There is a lot more you can do to go at this @Admiral . I wouldn't be ready to quit in the slightest. The fact you don't have major fatigue, severe chem anxiety and depression, severe brain stuff and the majority of your stuff is only physical/sexual makes me believe you aren't that far away from getting better if you fall upon correct path. It might be your very next step.

Your symptom set that you describe reminds me of when I finally got over the Lyme and its toxins to a decent degree in mid September 2017. Barely could get erections, major anhedonia, no libido, gross looking body, minor CFS. It seemed horrible for the average human being... but my severe intolerable anxiety/chem depression was gone, major CFS too. Had just juice feasted for 2 weeks and coffee enemad with it daily.

Anyways, when I was at that point, stopped my antidepressant and realized the brain stuff was gone. I just freakin cried on my couch with joy man. Just the craziest joy imaginable and I don't think I will ever have a happier the day during this journey until I finally recover and can write that story.

My lesson here is that its all about perspective. Me (in Sept 2017) and you now aren't all that different. But I was perhaps happiest human being in the world and you currently have quitting in the back of your mind.

Get that out of the back of your mind. It's the year 2019, we have GBOLD on our side who pushes HTMA as thy one an only savior from my perspective LOL, but he has us on the right path and has taught us soooooooo much. In this day and age there are so many biohack type guys out there who you'll learn from like him. We are in the internet era and exponential times.

Be grateful we are in this day and age as much as this disability plagues you. This disability will be an ability one day for you. And you'll be able to look back and "say yea I was that guy dickless for 14 years and toughed it out tried so much stuff... and then I fixed it!!"

Imagine how happy you would be when that one day comes? Just that one day when you realize its fixed?! The cool part is... you get to live another several thousand days fixed afterward.

I think its worth waiting for man and making it your life to get there because its just so worth it.

Me and @Rid spoke about it the other day. Rid was like "the mind just seems to influence me so much. When I'm happy, things are good." And it makes sense- Sept 2017 me wasn't going to get better because I was happy, but it played its role no doubt in my mind. I got so much better from there like 100x better in only 6 months.

Be appreciative of this life you get to live. That you're here on this world. That you were born once and have the life you are able to live. I know you're a teacher- be happy about what you do. Try to be a happy person and I'm sure it will work out in the end and you'll finally take that correct turn onto an avenue you've been searching for for 14 years. It's going to be a beautiful street. ))))
 
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Admiral

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I've settled down a bit. Will continue TEI for a while as I don't have much faith in other protocols, seeing I have so many symptoms.

Will take TEI. It gives me copper plus, min plex B, vitamin E and digestive aids. Not taking the fulvic acid. Will continue to do liver flushes (my 7th will be tomorrow), coffee enema's and support the liver with TUDCA and SAMe. Will add vitamin D as well, as the TEI supplement in the Netherlands don't have it in them. Hopefully I am strong enough to continue this entire protocol for the remainder of the year, but I'm sure doubts will creep in and might switch to ARL at some point.

Diet will be on point. Lots of vegetables, meat, full fat milk, brown rice and perhaps potatoes for carbs. Won't be touching coffee, alcohol, drugs or refined sugar. My TEI report didn't come with much of a food recommendation. Anyone know which vegetables are preferred for fast oxidizers?
 

Ingeno

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I've settled down a bit. Will continue TEI for a while as I don't have much faith in other protocols, seeing I have so many symptoms.

Will take TEI. It gives me copper plus, min plex B, vitamin E and digestive aids. Not taking the fulvic acid. Will continue to do liver flushes (my 7th will be tomorrow), coffee enema's and support the liver with TUDCA and SAMe. Will add vitamin D as well, as the TEI supplement in the Netherlands don't have it in them. Hopefully I am strong enough to continue this entire protocol for the remainder of the year, but I'm sure doubts will creep in and might switch to ARL at some point.

Diet will be on point. Lots of vegetables, meat, full fat milk, brown rice and perhaps potatoes for carbs. Won't be touching coffee, alcohol, drugs or refined sugar. My TEI report didn't come with much of a food recommendation. Anyone know which vegetables are preferred for fast oxidizers?
You can ask them for the food list, I got it after asking. They removed the food list because they didn't agree with some things like bacon being advised to eat. I hate that they try to do their own version. Watch out for the digestive aids, those aren't the same either as the originals.
 

Admiral

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That's stupid.

Also, digestive aids are more or less the same. They all consist out of betaine HCL, oxbile, pepsin and trypsin. Only thing I am worried about is the betaine HCL, which hasn't been kind to me. Might switch to ARL's digestive aids, as they put much more emphasis on bile.
 

Admiral

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This mini slump isn't from quitting TEI. I noticed that asparagus are just a potent vegetable. Whenever I eat it every once and a while it gives me a little, but pleasant boost in libido and EQ, but this week I overdid it and it caused a mini crash. Full blown prostatitis, as I also get when I am on T-supplements, groggy, depressed, headaches and deprived sleep.

Maybe it's the copper or vitamin K overload.

It definitely was the iron part which caused this, as evidence by my hair test.
 

Admiral

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While I took the triptorelin shot, I am still in the mids of a TEI cycle. This one is rougher than I've experienced so far. Instant fatigue, nauseousness, stomach bloating. Took a few days off this weekend when I was having fun with friends in Poland, returned on the supps and it reminded me how bad I feel on this cycle.
 

Admiral

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Something I've noticed over this past year is how my allergies flare up when I am having a little bit of excitement or stress. For instance, with this shitty weather I play a little FIFA, which can be intense (haha). I noticed that every time I do my nose starts running and my eyes are red and irritated. Not sure about the link, but I always felt it was odd.