Admiral’s PFS Log.. ARL/TEI since march 2018

RebelWithACause

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Crazy how you got like 3-4 cycles of copper from TEI/ARL. Could be you still have finasteride in your system just like me. TEI also thought I was a fast oxidizer. Although after a few cycles my real oxidation came out. With you not so much I see... maybe the last cycle did? So first two cycles I think they gave me copper. Maybe only the first one I don't remember.

After my experiments with hCG and Proviron I felt like my metabolism dropped hard and I went back to who and what I was before finasteride. I got fatter faster and overall all of a sudden I had to speed myself up hard. I felt my androgens worked better. Before that I could not handle anything that would speed me up. If I would of retested my metabolism then I am certain I would be seen as a slow oxidizer by TEI (and ARL).
 

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LMFAO your experience with the Dutch ARL reminds me of mine and Ingeno when we used TEI in The Netherlands in 2018 or so. I got some dude assigned to me who didn't have a clue about it and he kept calling me trying to explain it but he didn't understand it. Also tried to sell me all types of supps around it. Really bad. It's weird how these people are allowed to run these companies associated with ARL and TEI. It really attracts nutcases. Same for guys like Wilson. The guy didn't even take it serious. He thought I did it like I did it for fun and not to get me out of the shithole I was in.

Reminded me of when I went to a psychologist like 10+ years ago and the guy was just a nutjob trying to give me advice. lol It sucks because it's often sick people who get into these things trying to find an answer and a person who can be clear to them. Instead you get some crazy motherfucker assigned to you trying to take more money out of your pocket. So fucked up...
 

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@RebelWithACause "Same for guys like Wilson. The guy didn't even take it serious. He thought I did it like I did it for fun and not to get me out of the shithole I was in."
You mean Dr.Wilson? You worked with him? It is hard to believe..

Btw I think I will try Valance supps once they start selling them from Netherlands
I think their basic supps like slow ox, Na/K up or that zinc can be really good. I think they are better than Endo-met supps for sure..
They just don't use molybdenum for now. That's not a problem to add small dose if needed. But I am tired of buying all the stuff separately and take third of a capsule of this, half capsule of that etc.. With this I would take it 1-2 or 3 times with food like ARL is recommending Endomet supps and will be done with it..
Would take small doses and based on how I feel and on symptoms just slow ox or add Na/K up here and there or little dose of moly.. Now I understand much better what is going on in my body based on symptoms. So I can adjust what, how much to take. HG7 helped a lof to understand the symptoms as well.
Like taking the same stuff for 5 months until you do new hairtest, when your needs can probably change much more rapidly is just stupid.
But I think that is just support and I think the exact opposite of what that Luke practitioner thinks and said. He said if you take protocol from Valance diet and stuff doesn't matter that much. I think those pills are just little push to proper direction and what is more important is what how you live your life mentally and physically in general.
Like Me living in chronic stress and fear no pills would ever be real game changer. Me living with my parents I now understand that I was stuck in child mode basically. I couldn't express my real self. To develop to a man. It started with delayed puberty and that environment where I grow up my whole life kept me in that fearful child mode.
I really believe now that yeah I was am hypothyroid, fucked up with genetics and stuff, but what really fucked me up and kept me sick and underdeveloped in every way possible was the mental side of things. How my family members and people around me who knew me fucked me up and kept me there. If I was on my own like 10-15 years ago already I would be completely different person now that's for sure and no HTMA or any pills and stuff needed.. Selig has great video about it when he made video on copper. Like when you don't live your truth. When you can't express your personality and develop you just become sick and toxic... THere will be no bioavailable copper, no anabolic hormones etc. Nothing just stress hormones and slow degeneration..
 
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@RebelWithACause "Same for guys like Wilson. The guy didn't even take it serious. He thought I did it like I did it for fun and not to get me out of the shithole I was in."
You mean Dr.Wilson? You worked with him? It is hard to believe..

Btw I think I will try Valance supps once they start selling them from Netherlands
I think their basic supps like slow ox, Na/K up or that zinc can be really good. I think they are better than Endo-met supps for sure..
They just don't use molybdenum for now. That's not a problem to add small dose if needed. But I am tired of buying all the stuff separately and take third of a capsule of this, half capsule of that etc.. With this I would take it 1-2 or 3 times with food like ARL is recommending Endomet supps and will be done with it..
Would take small doses and based on how I feel and on symptoms just slow ox or add Na/K up here and there or little dose of moly.. Now I understand much better what is going on in my body based on symptoms. So I can adjust what, how much to take. HG7 helped a lof to understand the symptoms as well.
Like taking the same stuff for 5 months until you do new hairtest, when your needs can probably change much more rapidly is just stupid.
But I think that is just support and I think the exact opposite of what that Luke practitioner thinks and said. He said if you take protocol from Valance diet and stuff doesn't matter that much. I think those pills are just little push to proper direction and what is more important is what how you live your life mentally and physically in general.
Like Me living in chronic stress and fear no pills would ever be real game changer. Me living with my parents I now understand that I was stuck in child mode basically. I couldn't express my real self. To develop to a man. It started with delayed puberty and that environment where I grow up my whole life kept me in that fearful child mode.
I really believe now that yeah I was am hypothyroid, fucked up with genetics and stuff, but what really fucked me up and kept me sick and underdeveloped in every way possible was the mental side of things. How my family members and people around me who knew me fucked me up and kept me there. If I was on my own like 10-15 years ago already I would be completely different person now that's for sure and no HTMA or any pills and stuff needed.. Selig has great video about it when he made video on copper. Like when you don't live your truth. When you can't express your personality and develop you just become sick and toxic... THere will be no bioavailable copper, no anabolic hormones etc. Nothing just stress hormones and slow degeneration..
I meant he was like Wilson, crazy. I never did Wilson's program thankfully.

Valence supps overrated in my opinion they just try to funnel you to different supplement store so they earn more money from you. Even Helen told this back in the day. They all base their stuff on ARL (or TEI) and then try to funnel their clients to different websites and web shops so they get more commition from it.

Yes their supps have logic behind it (ratios, etc.) but to me they look not much better than normal supplements. Nice packaging thats about it. Maybe I'm wrong who knows I will never buy stuff from them. If you have no money I'd just buy supps in bulk.

Not saying their supplements are useless. I'd just focus on doing ARL or TEI and don't get mixed in with people from Wilson who change their programs with different supplements or extra supplements.
Otherwise I'd do my own thing. Just my opinion. I'd do it hardcore to what Eck/people who created the programs do and if I can't do that or don't like it then I'd do my own stuff.

A lot of these Wilson practicioners create so much bullshit around minerals, hairtesting, ARL program etc. It's just something I would not get involved with.

SOme of them have very good info. Not hating on their stuff but I don't like it, I am repulsed from the way they work. Not sure why. I just don't like how they mix stuff up and talk a lot of spiritual. I like the people who focus 100% on results and not talk all this psychology/psychiatrist stuff. From good (enough) health a better life is also born, not vice versa. Not "oh if I just think correctly I will do good!". I don't believe it. If others do that's OK too. I could be wrong and ignorant and all that.

I don't even believe thoughts or attitude will influence hairtest. Thoughts attitude are products from your metabolism in combination with maybe your experiences in life or what your parents taught you who are probably also similar in health.

All of the people I know who struggle in life they have health issues sometimes unknowingly to them. It's not because of their bad attitude their bad attitude is born from an unhealthy body.As an example.
 
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@RebelWithACause "I don't even believe thoughts or attitude will influence hairtest. "
I said living in chronic stress and fear will influence your biochemistry not attitude.
You simply still struggle to understand that mental stuff will influence physical stuff. Much much more than physical stuff can hurt physical body.
Because the body is created by evolution to adapt to physical stuff. Mental side of things is completely different beast.
But I had this debate with you about this many time it is pointless..

"Yes their supps have logic behind it (ratios, etc.) but to me they look not much better than normal supplements. "
Yes they are based on endomet supps. No other supps apart from Endomet or Valance have specific combinations of stuff in one pill and no other company has for each mineral so many different types of forms of that mineral. Each type works different.
If anything Endomet supps are overpriced like crazy. With inactive forms of B vits etc.. Paul Eck would make new formulas as well if he was still living.
I don't like 80% of those supps from Valance because they put in them a lot of probably dangerous stuff.
I just like the basic slow ox, zinc and Na/K up bottles. It will work at least the same probably much better than Endomet supps which are far from cheaper.
 

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Yes.
Often processed food and whatever env. toxins...., and decades of bad habits. Hard out there to eat clean.
Buying cow by the piece soon. well i mean someone will, and theyll get butcher to cut it, and I'll store some.
Fk retail. Grocery stores too.

"All of the people I know who struggle in life they have health issues sometimes unknowingly to them. It's not because of their bad attitude their bad attitude is born from an unhealthy body.As an example."
 

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@RebelWithACause "I don't even believe thoughts or attitude will influence hairtest. "
I said living in chronic stress and fear will influence your biochemistry not attitude.
You simply still struggle to understand that mental stuff will influence physical stuff. Much much more than physical stuff can hurt physical body.
Because the body is created by evolution to adapt to physical stuff. Mental side of things is completely different beast.
But I had this debate with you about this many time it is pointless..

"Yes their supps have logic behind it (ratios, etc.) but to me they look not much better than normal supplements. "
Yes they are based on endomet supps. No other supps apart from Endomet or Valance have specific combinations of stuff in one pill and no other company has for each mineral so many different types of forms of that mineral. Each type works different.
If anything Endomet supps are overpriced like crazy. With inactive forms of B vits etc.. Paul Eck would make new formulas as well if he was still living.
I don't like 80% of those supps from Valance because they put in them a lot of probably dangerous stuff.
I just like the basic slow ox, zinc and Na/K up bottles. It will work at least the same probably much better than Endomet supps which are far from cheaper.
I don't disagree that we are better equipped to handle physical stress. But I also think that a lot of people in the HTMA sphere they talk about "living your truth" I saw you say that as well. And stuff like "if you don't think properly you don't detox copper" which I heard some HTMA guys say it's just insane to me and I definitely don't agree with them on that. I understand how they got to that conclusion but from my experience it's not true.

Good luck living your truth when you are insanely sick. It's impossible. And then what is "living your truth"? Lol. It changes also where you live and how you are brought up. It has nothing to do with health. You could say it's being close to who you are without all the toxic layers of bad health and unresolved trauma. You can't influence that with thoughts in my opinion. The only reason you have unresolved crap is mostly because you are hypothyroid and unable to process stuff so it just stays in your body (and mind) way longer than it should be. That is not a spiritual thing it's a physical thing.

And I don't think forcing yourself into different environment is always helpful at all. I would feel worse doing that when I was at my sickest. Maybe going on a holiday to see a different part of life can sometimes help. But in general I felt best in the environment I was used to even though this was not an optimal environment and I was surrounded by toxicity. Eventually this toxicity went away automatically in the same environment. So people stopped bothering me pretty much lol.

On the other hand yes I lived alone for a long time so maybe this helped me. It just depends where you are at if you are very sick then maybe it is better to find a quiet place yes

To me the only thing is important to try to stay positive so you keep doing things to get better.

Anyways it's OK to disagree at the end it's important to get healthy bottom line...
 

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@RebelWithACause "if you don't think properly you don't detox copper"
Never said this and never heard people like Selig telling that.

"And then what is "living your truth"? Lol. "
I already described to you that in my case. Selig was talking about is as well for example when parents force you to live life that you don't want to live.
Simply there can be many reasons why you can't express your true self.
I am in eyes of my family just that stupid little kid who will never have a girl, family. Who will never be real man. When you live 40 years with people who view you like that it will force you to live that and you will completely abandon the idea of becoming full grown adult who can be attractive to potential partner etc..

Hard to explain to someone who never had to live in this way.
I am telling you that people can degenerate insanely or completely transform to completely different human just based on environment and people around you.
If you do man shit, if you are around good people(some brotherhood instead of nasty people who bully you etc.) if you are not under chronic stress and fear etc. etc. It will completely shift your hormones and that will completely change your body/mental/physical health.

You as a human you are product of biochemistry how balanced you are and also what influence you had from your environment.
You can do proper balancing all day long, but it will be completely useless if you are mentally and as result physically as well completely fucked up from unhealthy environment.

It is clear as day that you can't imagine how fucked up living environment people can have.
The only way to avoid/stop that is to just leave/escape that unhealthy environment to something at least neutral. So it stops and you can find your way. Ideally you want people around you who push you to make a progress.
You have those parents who don't give you anything for free, who deal with you like you are gown man, but who also teach you a lot of useful skills and once you are adult by law they kick you out. Seems harsh, but kids with parents like that do great in life.
My parents were the exact opposite. It seems to me they created me to just have someone around once they get older. So they crippled me in every way possible, so I don't become just normal adult who will leave and live his life obviously..

You add real physical issues on top of that sick upbringing/grooming and you are really fucked.
If you were groomed by family and other people for half a century in some kind of way. It would be insanely naive to think that you can just balance your biochemistry by for example HTMA a nutritional balancing... So many layers of complex garbage piled on each other.
 
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@RebelWithACause "if you don't think properly you don't detox copper"
Never said this and never heard people like Selig telling that.

"And then what is "living your truth"? Lol. "
I already described to you that in my case. Selig was talking about is as well for example when parents force you to live life that you don't want to live.
Simply there can be many reasons why you can't express your true self.
I am in eyes of my family just that stupid little kid who will never have a girl, family. Who will never be real man. When you live 40 years with people who view you like that it will force you to live that and you will completely abandon the idea of becoming full grown adult who can be attractive to potential partner etc..

Hard to explain to someone who never had to live in this way.
I am telling you that people can degenerate insanely or completely transform to completely different human just based on environment and people around you.
If you do man shit, if you are around good people(some brotherhood instead of nasty people who bully you etc.) if you are not under chronic stress and fear etc. etc. It will completely shift your hormones and that will completely change your body/mental/physical health.

You as a human you are product of biochemistry how balanced you are and also what influence you had from your environment.
You can do proper balancing all day long, but it will be completely useless if you are mentally and as result physically as well completely fucked up from unhealthy environment.

It is clear as day that you can't imagine how fucked up living environment people can have.
The only way to avoid/stop that is to just leave/escape that unhealthy environment to something at least neutral. So it stops and you can find your way. Ideally you want people around you who push you to make a progress.
You have those parents who don't give you anything for free, who deal with you like you are gown man, but who also teach you a lot of useful skills and once you are adult by law they kick you out. Seems harsh, but kids with parents like that do great in life.
My parents were the exact opposite. It seems to me they created me to just have someone around once they get older. So they crippled me in every way possible, so I don't become just normal adult who will leave and live his life obviously..

You add real physical issues on top of that sick upbringing/grooming and you are really fucked.
If you were groomed by family and other people for half a century in some kind of way. It would be insanely naive to think that you can just balance your biochemistry by for example HTMA a nutritional balancing... So many layers of complex garbage piled on each other.
I mean yea it's also because you lacked a strong puberty. Same thing for me people always saw me as a kid. Incl. my family and other women. Your parents probably similar. From the bad health these behaviors come and are cultivated within the family.

As an example my best friend I posted before about him he never eats healthy (especially healthy standards that are on HTMA/health forums) and his parents were not good either, they barely raised him. But he still had a strong puberty and never had these problems I do. Never. He doesn't even understand my problems. It is a foreign language to him. He always had girlfriends without even trying or thinking. He was seen as a man by people around him and even respected for it. While he didn't do even anything to be respected for.

Everything about his life is unhealthy incl. his environment. But he still thrived because he had a decent puberty and probably was born with less toxicities. The puberty is a big part I think to thrive as a man. Otherwise you will be stuck in a sort of childlike state and you just start to disasociate or escape from reality.

Then these HTMA guys want to push all these religious beliefs like "live your truth" "you can't detox copper with a bad attitude", this and that. I don't believe in it and I think it will weaken your will. It would weaken mine at least if I have to do all types of mental gymnastics to get better. I don't like those guys even if they have some good tips.
 

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BTW at the end it's about getting better who cares what I think or someone else if it works then it works. I hope you get better ASAP - or at least to a good enough point you can live life again. That's the most important thing.
 

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@RebelWithACause I don't know why you are giving example of someone with good genetics and strong puberty. Obviously person like that will not take any bullshit from anyone so easily because it is confident, fully functioning, capable person. You see it all the time people like that having bad parents, childhood etc. They just leave everything behind and go live their like as they want.
But if you are genetic waste person like me you can't do that. You depend on those toxic people around you.
The problem is that to get better in terms of balancing the body to some at least lower normal so you can function on your own you have to be at least in some neutral environment that is not constantly making you chronically stressed. If you think that you can achieve any kind of health progress while having chronically elevated stress hormones, low DHEA, steroid hormones etc.. Just by taking supplements or whatever you are crazy bro..

YOU HEALED WHILE LIVING ALONE. So pls give me a break with this.
Go read something about learned helplessness for example. There is so much to it that you simply don't get..
 

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@RebelWithACause I don't know why you are giving example of someone with good genetics and strong puberty. Obviously person like that will not take any bullshit from anyone so easily because it is confident, fully functioning, capable person. You see it all the time people like that having bad parents, childhood etc. They just leave everything behind and go live their like as they want.
But if you are genetic waste person like me you can't do that. You depend on those toxic people around you.
The problem is that to get better in terms of balancing the body to some at least lower normal so you can function on your own you have to be at least in some neutral environment that is not constantly making you chronically stressed. If you think that you can achieve any kind of health progress while having chronically elevated stress hormones, low DHEA, steroid hormones etc.. Just by taking supplements or whatever you are crazy bro..

YOU HEALED WHILE LIVING ALONE. So pls give me a break with this.
Go read something about learned helplessness for example. There is so much to it that you simply don't get..

If you have no other choice but to live with your parents you can still get better. I don't think it's a must to move out and be alone. Will the progress be slower? Maybe. But it's still better than nothing and I do believe you can make fast progress even in bad environments. I understand you feel learned helplessness. I also felt it but never gave in to it. Just forced myself against all of my instincts everyday pretty much. Did I have it easier? Probably. But man if I was you I'd go HARD at it - as much as possible in this scenario. Will you face a lot of adversity? Yes probably too. Your parents will probably try to manipulate you and push you back in the old you but you have to trust the process. Trust your own instincts and not others.

Because sometimes you just don't have oppertunities to move away. Sometimes the doors are closed everywhere and you are forced to deal with the current cards you dealt with. I had periods like this too but in different ways. I wanted to FORCE things so much and it never worked out. I just went with the flow and what I had. Sometimes I was stuck completely then just focussed on using supplements, good habits and trying to ignore all the toxic people in my life. Eventhough I lived a lone I had a bad roommate, I had bad people at work, etc. Especially at work a few people found it funny to fuck with me everyday and bully me (workplace bullying type stuff) but after a year or so of going hard on the health they all of a sudden didn't want to do it anymore and they disappeared into background noise. I still see one of those guys at work once in a while and he doesn't even engage lol. Dude avoids me like the plague.

Anyways good luck dude. I know it's hard.