Another Theory for PFS ( Andregenic receptor )

joekool

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50mgs in the morning only. It’s very good stuff. I’ve tried 25mgs twice a day but think 50mgs once is better.
 

joekool

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100mgs Test E or C Sunday morning only
On Mondays, I take 1/4 of a 2.5mg dose of Letrozole
Every day I take 50mgs Anavar in the morning
For vitamins, I take:
AM
500Mg B1
500Mg B5
250Mg Niacinamide
Probiotic, Kelp

Mid Day
500Mg B1
500Mg B5
250Mg Niacinamide

PM (usually before bed)
90mcg K2 / 5k iu D3
400 to 800Mg Magnesium
I recently added Calcium Glucorate to combat estrogen. These 4 items are to loosen up calcium deposits stored in tissue which I now know is a huge issue of PFS. It's the cause of a lot of our muscle issues and hard flaccid, tight scrotum. Blood tests won't show this because it's stuck in tissue and cells. A bone test may prove you've been drawing calcium from bones but I didn't do one.

I drink pre-workout drinks all the time too. Unfortunately
 
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brix

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100mgs Test E or C Sunday morning only
On Mondays, I take 1/4 of a 2.5mg dose of Letrozole
Every day I take 50mgs Anavar in the morning
For vitamins, I take:
AM
500Mg B1
500Mg B5
250Mg Niacinamide
Probiotic, Kelp

Mid Day
500Mg B1
500Mg B5
250Mg Niacinamide

PM (usually before bed)
90mcg K2 / 5k iu D3
400 to 800Mg Magnesium
I recently added Calcium Glucorate to combat estrogen. These 4 items are to loosen up calcium deposits stored in tissue which I now know is a huge issue of PFS. It's the cause of a lot of our muscle issues and hard flaccid, tight scrotum. Blood tests won't show this because it's stuck in tissue and cells. A bone test may prove you've been drawing calcium from bones but I didn't do one.

I drink pre-workout drinks all the time too. Unfortunately

Wouldn’t PTH show and elevated calcium in blood show this?

That’s a hefty stack! Glad it’s working out for you!
 

ncsugrad

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100mgs Test E or C Sunday morning only
On Mondays, I take 1/4 of a 2.5mg dose of Letrozole
Every day I take 50mgs Anavar in the morning
For vitamins, I take:
AM
500Mg B1
500Mg B5
250Mg Niacinamide
Probiotic, Kelp

Mid Day
500Mg B1
500Mg B5
250Mg Niacinamide

PM (usually before bed)
90mcg K2 / 5k iu D3
400 to 800Mg Magnesium
I recently added Calcium Glucorate to combat estrogen. These 4 items are to loosen up calcium deposits stored in tissue which I now know is a huge issue of PFS. It's the cause of a lot of our muscle issues and hard flaccid, tight scrotum. Blood tests won't show this because it's stuck in tissue and cells. A bone test may prove you've been drawing calcium from bones but I didn't do one.

I drink pre-workout drinks all the time too. Unfortunately
Cool. I'm considering trying 100mg test and 50mg anavar, both will be here on Friday.
 

joekool

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Yea needle, i can walk you thru it. There's a step everyone misses and it'll make the injection painless.

I'm not familiar with topical test, other than the dht drops. I imagine It be ok but you can't really know what percentage of the milligrams you apply got thru.
 

ncsugrad

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How will you be taking the test? Needle? I want to try topical test in DMSO but not sure the best way to do it.
Yep, needle. Doesn't bother me. I always think if nurses or all these random people on TRT forums can do it, so can I. Just have to get through it the first time or two and it'll get easier I'm sure

Yea needle, i can walk you thru it. There's a step everyone misses and it'll make the injection painless.

I'm not familiar with topical test, other than the dht drops. I imagine It be ok but you can't really know what percentage of the milligrams you apply got thru.

Do tell... I'd be interested in knowing, as I'm going to be giving it a go probably on Friday. I went for blood work today so I'll have my most recent "pre" levels in a few days
 

joekool

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If this Is too brief, I'll rewrite it tomorrow

After swabbing the rubber stopper with alcohol and passing the needle thru to draw, draw the amount you plan on taking and remove the needle. Then draw some air, cap it and twist off that needle that just passed thru the rubber. Swap that removed needle with a brand new one from another syringe and use the same needle to draw next week, but the needle that'll pass thru your skin is the brand new one. Discard that needle and syringe after you inject. Save the 'draw needle' that's now on a brand new syringe for next week to do this again

Once a needle passes thru something, it's blunted and will never be as surgically sharp as when first opened. So ppl that use the same needle that passed thru the rubber are putting themselves thru unneeded pain. But that's how they do it in movies or the doctor that vaccinated you as a kid cuz he was too lazy to swap the needle for a new one.
 

Hbcap

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Anavar was the reason I landed up here in the first place lmao.

Test E + Anavar = rapid hairloss -> finasteride is a great idea!! -> pfs

Since it got me into this mess, perhaps it will get me out of it too :)
 

joekool

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Anavar was the reason I landed up here in the first place lmao.

Test E + Anavar = rapid hairloss -> finasteride is a great idea!! -> pfs

Since it got me into this mess, perhaps it will get me out of it too :)

Ha!! Nooooo

But seriously, we shouldn't let ppl think it's the var. I know you described it but I'm a huge proponent of it and actually notice my hair falling out again as of Monday, which is something I'm happy about oddly. Means I'm responding again
 

Hbcap

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Ha!! Nooooo

But seriously, we shouldn't let ppl think it's the var. I know you described it but I'm a huge proponent of it and actually notice my hair falling out again as of Monday, which is something I'm happy about oddly. Means I'm responding again


Hahah just messing around man. I used to love the stuff before it decided to suddenly eat my hair line after 4 cycles.
 

ncsugrad

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If this Is too brief, I'll rewrite it tomorrow

After swabbing the rubber stopper with alcohol and passing the needle thru to draw, draw the amount you plan on taking and remove the needle. Then draw some air, cap it and twist off that needle that just passed thru the rubber. Swap that removed needle with a brand new one from another syringe and use the same needle to draw next week, but the needle that'll pass thru your skin is the brand new one. Discard that needle and syringe after you inject. Save the 'draw needle' that's now on a brand new syringe for next week to do this again

Once a needle passes thru something, it's blunted and will never be as surgically sharp as when first opened. So ppl that use the same needle that passed thru the rubber are putting themselves thru unneeded pain. But that's how they do it in movies or the doctor that vaccinated you as a kid cuz he was too lazy to swap the needle for a new one.
Makes perfect sense. I will give that method a try!
 

joekool

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Hahah just messing around man. I used to love the stuff before it decided to suddenly eat my hair line after 4 cycles.
Dude that's super intriguing. Each cycle bumps up my base line, which Is supporting my theory. So you had increased androgenic responses after the fourth cycle, tho negative... Fingers crossed
 

Hbcap

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Correct. I had the thickest hair and never dreamt
of losing it. I probably ran 4 or 5 cycles over the past 5 years with zero hair loss. Always recovered perfectly as well.

Last summer I went with a moderate dose of test and 100mg var. all of a sudden my hair started shedding like there was no tomorrow. Every time I showered it looked like someone had sheared a sheep...

Stupidly jumped on finasteride and the rest is history.
 

brix

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Correct. I had the thickest hair and never dreamt
of losing it. I probably ran 4 or 5 cycles over the past 5 years with zero hair loss. Always recovered perfectly as well.

Last summer I went with a moderate dose of test and 100mg var. all of a sudden my hair started shedding like there was no tomorrow. Every time I showered it looked like someone had sheared a sheep...

Stupidly jumped on finasteride and the rest is history.
If you ran it that much, chances are it could be coincidence. What age did you start losing hair?
 

Helen

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Hey, this thread is not about anavar. I ran anavar 3 cycles with 5 people and it did nothing, Boris ran anavar 2 cycles and it did nothing.

in PFS there is no signaling , there is no cysteine available for zinc finger. it has nothing to do with density of the androgen receptors.

And increasing density will backfire huge if you ever recover from PFS.

I suggested anavar for progesterone problems since anavar is highly anabolic, I was thinking it can downregulate GR and upregulate PR

I keep telling this to Joe, but he does not listen. in PFS the density of AR is huge. it is already proven by studies.

The reason it is huge since there is no signaling there is no cysteine, this is why when some people tried cysteine, like Scenes, like Boris, like Mario Vitaly. it recovered their libido in days. But it is not sustainable since cysteine needs to be made, not taken from outside.


I mean it is obvious that it is not about androgen receptor isn't it. Since Jack17 LOWERS his androgens and feels recovered while lowering androgens since finasteride acts on different systems .
 
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