Copper

[RebelWithACause]

It's funny people believe this BS that the sun causes skin cancer. Yes maybe if you cook your outside like a lobster every year. But otherwise it will make you better IMO. Unless maybe you are an extreme slow oxidizer and you are already unhealthy or sick. Otherwise I think the sun can only do you good. Just like the sea. The forest.

Check this out:

The physiological effects of Shinrin-yoku (taking in the forest atmosphere or forest bathing): evidence from field experiments in 24 forests across Japan

You see what positive effect nature has on a human.

They call this stuff "nature therapy". Selling something that is free and abundant under "nature therapy". Haha. This is the world upside down. People need help finding what is healthy. Everybody knows this on the inside.

A lot of people around me look like ghosts and they are scared of some sun. Put a lot of sunscreen on their face. WTF? Sunscreen contains many chemicals which are very bad for you.

Like you say @Ingeno a lot of people work in offices. I just take breaks every 2 hours for 10 minutes. I don't care what my boss says to me. I want to go outside and catch some sun and fresh air. Smokers are allowed to go outside all the time to poison themselves with cigarette smoke. I want some fresh air.

 

[Shanks]

It's funny people believe this BS that the sun causes skin cancer. Yes maybe if you cook your outside like a lobster every year. But otherwise it will make you better IMO. Unless maybe you are an extreme slow oxidizer and you are already unhealthy or sick. Otherwise I think the sun can only do you good. Just like the sea. The forest.

Why is the sun probably a problem for slow oxidizer?

 

[bruschi11]

I just did a 14 day 24 Oz veggie juice fast while taking zinc/manganese/magnesium every other night. After the fast I was racing like crazy, just brain going too fast. I realized I needed to fast another week or so on broth and using just broth now and a juice or two a day. No more minerals.

I think zinc from that first fast sped me up too much. Excess zinc leads to racing mind and excess copper leads to slowed mind. Testo speeds you up, estrogen slows you down.

I think we need to look at zinc / copper as testo / estrogen a lot more here. There’s not much acknowledgement here that zinc= testo, copper= estrogen with all other things being controlled.

My finger nails are growing like crazy on zinc. Beard growth fast.

Zinc and copper are some freakin potent minerals. So getting these right I think is as important as anything while going at pfs.

 

[RebelWithACause]

Why is the sun probably a problem for slow oxidizer?

Makes them even slower? Vitamin D retains calcium.

I thought I read this somewhere on the forum.

"The slow oxidizer falls asleep in the sun." Something like that. So if you are very slow it might make you feel worse.

 

[supernature]

Makes them even slower? Vitamin D retains calcium.

I thought I read this somewhere on the forum.

"The slow oxidizer falls asleep in the sun." Something like that. So if you are very slow it might make you feel worse.

But the sun goes better with salt water for ex, which will have balancing effect, no ?

Plus you must be speaking about particular sun as time of the day.

It seems slow and fast metabolizers one should do only sun and the other only bath

 

[TubZy]

It's funny people believe this BS that the sun causes skin cancer. Yes maybe if you cook your outside like a lobster every year. But otherwise it will make you better IMO. Unless maybe you are an extreme slow oxidizer and you are already unhealthy or sick. Otherwise I think the sun can only do you good. Just like the sea. The forest.

Check this out:

The physiological effects of Shinrin-yoku (taking in the forest atmosphere or forest bathing): evidence from field experiments in 24 forests across Japan

You see what positive effect nature has on a human.

They call this stuff "nature therapy". Selling something that is free and abundant under "nature therapy". Haha. This is the world upside down. People need help finding what is healthy. Everybody knows this on the inside.

A lot of people around me look like ghosts and they are scared of some sun. Put a lot of sunscreen on their face. WTF? Sunscreen contains many chemicals which are very bad for you.

Like you say @Ingeno a lot of people work in offices. I just take breaks every 2 hours for 10 minutes. I don't care what my boss says to me. I want to go outside and catch some sun and fresh air. Smokers are allowed to go outside all the time to poison themselves with cigarette smoke. I want some fresh air.

That is why I go to bathouses and spas since I live in a high density area close to the city it is the next best thing I have to a forest lol

 

[Walker]

That is why I go to bathouses and spas since I live in a high density area close to the city it is the next best thing I have to a forest lol

On that note, I firmly believe NIR/Red Light saunas work wonders. I'm doing them religiously this cycle of TEI, and I don't feel any ill effects from the supplements like I did the first time. Of course, with my luck - it could that it isn't doing shit for me this time lol. But either way, it seems to have made a difference.

 

[bruschi11]

That is why I go to bathouses and spas since I live in a high density area close to the city it is the next best thing I have to a forest lol

LOL you reminded me there's a Russian Steam Bath only 10 mins from my apartment. Think I'm going to try this week.

 

[Helen]

LOL you reminded me there's a Russian Steam Bath only 10 mins from my apartment. Think I'm going to try this week.

russian steam bath without vodka and russian ladies DOES NOT WORK.

 

[Blugrass]

Speaking of copper, today I got the test results for a fecal (stool) toxic metal test I did. And Copper was the only high above the range. If my body is Deficient in copper, then why the hell is it dumping it like that?

I have low ceruluplasmin, lowish copper serum, and always low copper on three hair tests.

Makes me wonder if this is a mal absorption issue. Could sibo cause copper deficiency?

Is there a point in taking TEI copper?

 

[supernature]

russian steam bath without vodka and russian ladies DOES NOT WORK.

Ohh Shish (18+)

Особенности русской баньки

 

[supernature]

Speaking of copper, today I got the test results for a fecal (stool) toxic metal test I did. And Copper was the only high above the range. If my body is Deficient in copper, then why the hell is it dumping it like that?

I have low ceruluplasmin, lowish copper serum, and always low copper on three hair tests.

Makes me wonder if this is a mal absorption issue. Could sibo cause copper deficiency?

Is there a point in taking TEI copper?

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I bet your urine copper is elevated as well or is been in the past and eventually will gets depleted in the body. Maybe the body doesnt want it for some reason or cant have it. Maybe @Helen would know why this copper loosing from body is happening.

Low hair copper, elevated stool copper, probably elevated urine copper as well. If urine copper is high enough in 24h urine is what might be considered a Wilsons disease. And TEI prescribed you copper plus.

 

[Helen]

I bet your urine copper is elevated as well or is been in the past and eventually will gets depleted in the body. Maybe the body doesnt want it for some reason or cant have it. Maybe @Helen would know why this copper loosing from body is happening.

Low hair copper, elevated stool copper, probably elevated urine copper as well. If urine copper is high enough in 24h urine is what might be considered a Wilsons disease. And TEI prescribed you copper plus.

and where do you see elevated urine copper. go to accutane forum , or pfs forum where people tested this, in most cases copper was undetectable in urine.

Same as in me when I was in PFS, my copper was very low in urine, and zinc was 5 times the norm

 

[Blugrass]

@Helen , what do you think about elevated stool copper when someone is low on hair copper? cold this be an absorption issue?

 

[supernature]

and where do you see elevated urine copper. go to accutane forum , or pfs forum where people tested this, in most cases copper was undetectable in urine.

Same as in me when I was in PFS, my copper was very low in urine, and zinc was 5 times the norm

Eventually got lowered but if body is loosing it it must have been excreting it from urine as well as the stools, why not.

 

[Helen]

Eventually got lowered but if body is loosing it it must have been excreting it from urine as well as the stools, why not.

you eat it daily.

 

[Helen]

@Helen , what do you think about elevated stool copper when someone is low on hair copper? cold this be an absorption issue?

I am not sure about this may be has to do with aldosterone or with cortisol , or adrenaline.

too much adrenaline action and copper is being lost.

 

[Helen]

Eventually got lowered but if body is loosing it it must have been excreting it from urine as well as the stools, why not.

it could be from acetylcholine problem, from aluminum for instance


People have all different bodychemistries.

 

[Helen]

Eventually got lowered but if body is loosing it it must have been excreting it from urine as well as the stools, why not.

this is why I told you it is not just deficiencies, it is probably some problems with heavy metals or hormones regulation or amino acids, or vitamins which causes all of this.
But every case is different.


may be something with histidine.

may be MT is too high .

 

[Helen]

@Blugrass is your estrogen high?