Electrolyte Protocol for Improved Health

[MaximalCrazy]

Can’t we just take l-arinine? @Helen

From a quick Google search:

Citrulline bypasses the liver, unlike arginine, and is not subject to breakdown by arginase. Therefore, using citrulline in place of arginine allows for higher arginine levels and higher NO production. One study found that over 80% of L-citrulline is converted to arginine in the blood vessels.

Of course, citrulline is an even better NO booster than arginine. This has been shown in a couple of studies. The first one found that subjects taking equivalent doses of citrulline and arginine had higher arginine blood levels when they took citrulline versus arginine. A later study from German researchers reported that it took just half the amount of citrulline as arginine to raise blood concentrations of arginine to an equivalent level. The German researchers also found that a 3-gram dose of citrulline produced the highest increase in arginine and NO levels.

The greater effectiveness of citrulline versus arginine appears to be due to excessive breakdown of arginine in the body after it's consumed. This is due to the enzyme arginase that resides mainly in the intestines and liver. In fact, one study suggested that the amount of arginine consumed from oral supplements that was utilized in NO production was less than 1% of that consumed. Citrulline bypasses the liver, unlike arginine, and is not subject to breakdown by arginase. Therefore, using citrulline in place of arginine allows for higher arginine levels and higher NO production.

One study found that over 80% of L-citrulline is converted to arginine in the blood vessels. And yet another study in professional cyclists showed that those supplementing with citrulline had a significant increase in NO production during exercise.

In addition to boosting NO levels, using citrulline to increase arginine levels in the body can also elevate growth hormone (GH) levels. This works through arginine's ability to inhibit growth hormone inhibiting hormone (GHIH)—or somatostatin—which normally inhibits GH production. By inhibiting GHIH, arginine increases the production and release of GH from the anterior pituitary gland, which leads to higher blood levels of GH.

 

[TubZy]

@Helen
And vitamin B vitamins plus vitamin C and vitamine E
Bs ratios. 600 mg of thiamin HCL, 500 mg of B5, 100-200 mg of b6 and 250-500 mg of niacinamide, along with 3-10 mg folate and some B12 to balance out 100 mg of riboflavin.

Can you clarify dosages for the vitamin C and E, also the B12 as well? Those are the only dosages that are not listed and this is a frequent question I get.

@Helen pls advise))

 

[brix]

@Helen
And vitamin B vitamins plus vitamin C and vitamine E
Bs ratios. 600 mg of thiamin HCL, 500 mg of B5, 100-200 mg of b6 and 250-500 mg of niacinamide, along with 3-10 mg folate and some B12 to balance out 100 mg of riboflavin.

Can you clarify dosages for the vitamin C and E, also the B12 as well? Those are the only dosages that are not listed and this is a frequent question I get.

Also, how do you feel about the fat soluble version of B1, benfotiamine? I’ve been using this along with a b complex and feel good on it.

 

[Helen]

@Helen pls advise))

I think for fat solubles eat butter. you can take 400 E and 1gm of C . but that has to be after you recover glutathione

 

[bruschi11]

And he writes articles about gnomes and fairies. And this infrared sauna.... Dunnow. Btw bruschi got damage from that water.

I didn't get damage by the water. I got imbalanced by the water.

We thought it would improve my oxidation, but it made my oxidation slower and it was already slow. Some guys it will help their oxidation, some it will hurt.

I got set back by it. Things will set me back in life- nothing damages me lol.......

 

[opiath]

@Helen can you give your input on the following context?
Fast oxidizer in respiratory alkalosis because of high adrenaline.
Cortisol is low. I pee out any b2 I take within 30 minutes.
Stomach acid is low (low hydrogen because of alkalosis).
Hydrogen water makes me feel good briefly but anything more than a glass and my adrenaline jumps even higher.
Calcium, Magnesium, Zinc, Manganese all backfire. My body doesn't want any of them.
Tryptophan feels very good but it doesn't last.
Does this sound like an iron deficiency?

 

[Helen]

@Helen can you give your input on the following context?
Fast oxidizer in respiratory alkalosis because of high adrenaline.
Cortisol is low. I pee out any b2 I take within 30 minutes.
Stomach acid is low (low hydrogen because of alkalosis).
Hydrogen water makes me feel good briefly but anything more than a glass and my adrenaline jumps even higher.
Calcium, Magnesium, Zinc, Manganese all backfire. My body doesn't want any of them.
Tryptophan feels very good but it doesn't last.
Does this sound like an iron deficiency?

if tryptophan does not last , it could be 2 things either tryptophan is broken down like crazy by IDO. which is an iron enzyme. and then there is b2 and b6

Or serotonin is broken down like crazy by MAO. MAO is on FAD ( b2 ) and copper.

Cortisol is made with NADPH. So if you take b1 , your cortisol should go up. this will lower your FAD , which will increase serotonin.

How do you know your cortisol is low

 

[Jaxx]

if tryptophan does not last , it could be 2 things either tryptophan is broken down like crazy by IDO. which is an iron enzyme. and then there is b2 and b6

Or serotonin is broken down like crazy by MAO. MAO is on FAD ( b2 ) and copper.

Cortisol is made with NADPH. So if you take b1 , your cortisol should go up. this will lower your FAD , which will increase serotonin.

How do you know your cortisol is low

If you gain energy on licorice root that would point to low/insensitive cortisol, right?

 

[Helen]

If you gain energy on licorice root that would point to low/insensitive cortisol, right?

I would assume yes.

Do you have low or high cortisol?

 

[Jaxx]

I would assume yes.

Do you have low or high cortisol?

It was never measured (doc refused), but i was very low on energy, licorice root made that alot better.

 

[barbaar]

It was never measured (doc refused), but i was very low on energy, licorice root made that alot better.

Same. But I don't want to take it anymore because of blood pressure. I got a saliva cortisol test (curve) done so hopefully I'll have the results soon

 

[Jaxx]

Same. But I don't want to take it anymore because of blood pressure. I got a saliva cortisol test (curve) done so hopefully I'll have the results soon

Cool, curious about your results! I never really saw an impact on bloodpressure but cant imagine its healthy long term

 

[Jaxx]

Same. But I don't want to take it anymore because of blood pressure. I got a saliva cortisol test (curve) done so hopefully I'll have the results soon

It also helped alot with erections at first i recall. You recognise that too?

 

[barbaar]

It also helped alot with erections at first i recall. You recognise that too?

Not sure, it was some time ago I tried it. Maybe a little but no huge difference.

 

[Aflac94]

Just used some common sense to reason that to get rid of my loose stool / diarrhea I will eat a bit of what typically constipates me (dairy like yogurt).

 

[Helen]

@Helen what is the rule with gelatin/collagen, when can one take it safely? It should be taken with potassium and magnesium rich foods(like greens)?

yeah you take a lot electrolytes so there is no problems. at all for you taking gelatin

 

[Helen]

@Helen remember, i dont take pill forms of minerals/supplements, instead, I eat lots of vegetables/tubers(which are loaded with potassium and magnesium) and salt... it will be still ok? how much gelatin per day is enough?

i spoke with a naturopath friend, he told me he recommended to a powerlifter to eat 9 tablespoons of collagen(hydrolysed form of gelatin) per day and the guy in a few months benched 500lbs... explanation is that collagen increases HGH naturally and rebuilds and maintains body tissues(joints, tendons, muscles, bones etc.)... any comments?

i tried eating 1/2 tsp. gelatin and I think my body did not like it... got extremely sleepy, bloated

glycine can metabolize SaME too much. some people have the enzyme problem gnmt I think. which runs on glycine. And this can cause too little SaMe and methylation.

GNMT - Wikipedia

 

[Orion]

glycine can metabolize SaME too much. some people have the enzyme problem gnmt I think. which runs on glycine. And this can cause too little SaMe and methylation.

GNMT - Wikipedia

I did add 1g per day sarcosine to my stack, should be helpful as you mentioned against some PAS symptoms.

 

[TubZy]

I tried to edit this into the original post here, but the original post is maxed out regarding the amounts of characters so I will post it here. Here is a potential way that @Helen discussed under the PFS protocol of the first page of this thread. I listed out all the dosages and got more clarity, so now some people should give it a try given how much clearer it is to to see what do try.

PFS Restore NADPH Protocol (take once per day with meals at one time)

• Thiamine HCL 600mg
• B5 - 500mg
• B6 - 100-200mg
• B3 (niacinamide) - 250-500mg
• Folate - 3-10mg
• B12 - 2mg
• B2 - 100mg
• Biotin - 1000mcg

once glutathione is restored from the above protocol then after add vitamin C and E to restore glutathione recycling by adding the following:

• Fat soluble vitamins (just eat butter)
• vitamin C - 1000mg
• vitamin E - 400iu

 

[Potion]

I tried to edit this into the original post here, but the original post is maxed out regarding the amounts of characters so I will post it here. Here is a potential way that @Helen discussed under the PFS protocol of the first page of this thread. I listed out all the dosages and got more clarity, so now some people should give it a try given how much clearer it is to to see what do try.

PFS Restore NADPH Protocol (take once per day with meals at one time)

• Thiamine HCL 600mg
• B5 - 500mg
• B6 - 100-200mg
• B3 (niacinamide) - 250-500mg
• Folate - 3-10mg
• B12 - 2mg
• B2 - 100mg
• Biotin - 1000mcg

once glutathione is restored from the above protocol then after add vitamin C and E to restore glutathione recycling by adding the following:

• Fat soluble vitamins (just eat butter)
• vitamin C - 1000mg
• vitamin E - 400iu

Looks good. Thanks.

How will one know that glutathione is restored?