Fazed22 log

[MNK99]

I see I see. Yeah I have heard about it in carnivore world and I will check out that link.
Didn't seem like we were talking about the same thing. I know AGES exist but as far as it causing issues, it can be related to your other likely pathogen issues.

Even so, I see raising metabolism and body's defense mechanisms (from E-protocol, or TEI in your case, or water fasting (not for ev1 but I mean come on most don't try, that is hard)), should get rid of them.

I would imagine gluten, bread, etc keeps them fed. Yeast, microbes. Maybe eating exactly ish what TEI tells you to can help faster.

I'm lucky in that I didn't learn too much about pathogens till after mine were practically gone, from long term water fasting. BUT I don't think they were a non issue, when right before I tried juice feasting and Breuss fasting protocol (liking this one better than the Swole Source Juice Feasting. I was too brain damaged and needed my parent's help with making it and buying breuess back then).

Major digestion finally after juice feasting but all black and more material. Water fasting, and then breaking with some homemade veggie broth was better. And gains stayed and it seemed like 1 milion x more useful to me.

Oh ok ok, yeah they are different haha aged meat versus AGES, I was saying I thought I heard that older meat might have AGES. Basically on a Shawn Baker episode.
It is from cooking I see. I heard about both and confused them perhaps. I misremembered/combined them. I see this AGES is problematic for poor eliminators.

Remove those cooking methods + troublesome foods for you man. Take the good info we can, combine with what we know works for us, and leave the rest.
Wilson has some good info but he went insane. He could be spot on here though. Just keep pushing. Refine your approach, drop the problematic parts.

 

[Fazed22]

Old Gbold on RP forum, What do you think of this @MNK99

He doesn't use any soap at all, I personally use fragrance free minimal ingredients shower gel and we excrete metals through the skin so when I am washing sweat off my body with soap I feel a lot better, I can't imagine not using it, I dunno if gbold is right or not

"good question. I quit all of those about 4 years ago. I have no toothpaste, no deodorants, shampoo, no soaps. None of those.

At first the transition is hard, you have greasy hair etc. After about 2 months your body adjusts and your hair is better than before. and it never gets greasy even if I don't wash it. Before it was getting greasy fast I guess since it got used to the fact that I was getting rid of the grease with shampoos.

I only use water.

I don't use anything man made on my body. All full of chemicals.
I have a small cosmetics line produced in Cyprus which is made from all natural stuff with zero chemicals and imbalances from local farms( which don't use any of antibiotics or anything) . Basically made for personal use.

So women around me use that . Creams ,lotions. shampoos.But I never use anything. No need for me.:


No smells after a while. Body adjusts. 2-3 months, no grease , no smells. I use just water for a toothpaste, sometimes coconut oil and apples.

First month you will be greasy and smelly. your hair will have tons of oil in it, it will be bad and you will think that you will never get it clean again and will not be able to wash it thru with just water

In 2-3 months you will forget about these problems, your hair will be so fresh just from water , it will never get greasy and you actually dont have to wash it so much . it just does not seem to lose its volume and does not seem get greasy.

This will bancrupt most of the personal care industry. You simply dont need any of that toxic stuff.

I have my own company that makes creams, lotions, soaps from natural things here in Cyprus, I started it to make those for me. But then I just quit everything ,, I just don't need it. I use just water. Women use those products and happy - it gives them all kinds of smells. I don't need any smells( all raw pheromones LOL)

Last edited: Sep 16, 2017"

 

[MNK99]

I was using nothing like that and only natural soap and maybe no shampoo no conditioner for a couple yrs. I did add deodorant maybe 4-6mo maybe 6-8mo into recovery but I think natural smell came back and wasn't there for a time. It is hard not using cologne or soap ever lol but initially people's endocrine systems can be too sensitive. I reread some of Tubzy's log and he avoided all chemical things for a while.

I think I was pretty strict about this at least 2/3maybe all of 2018. I think I added more back in 2019 and nothing really hurt me but I still used low ingredient stuff.
I think carnivore takes care of MOST Of this or Tubzy's diet that he decided upon in the end.

I was pretty strict about detergents and stuff, I had excema and asthma as a kid but things still had a few ingredients. I do notice more sneezing with some laundry products.
I use Bioderma, Clarins, some Vichy stuff and if they are poisonous... I don't really care but I added them back as I got better. For the first year or most of it, I was pretty anal retentive about it.

I don't think one has to be forever, but maybe 1-2 years is fine. Carnivore or mineral balancing or electrolyte protocol can take care of most of it. Long water fasting before did too but I was in a weak state then, and I am glad I was strict, I just think it is impractical long run. Some people do but surely a strict diet long run and exercising hard and maybe adding sauna and the like can circumvent any issue there.

If you are having detoxing issues, and they aren't being resolved with your protocol, then it may be worth doing so bro.

I never had my own custom made creams and soaps but some people do that with colognes and stuff. Some people used Every Man Jack on Swole Source. I think Walker and CD did. Those are good too.

I did use *gasp* DOVE Soap eventually. For a long time I used Aveeno Apple Cider Vinegar Hair Wash. When things ran out in 6mo or a year or in shortages during the lockdown, I got what I could get and they were mostly clean and I was obsessive about it a bit but mostly for fear of ruining my routine. (Hard to make one at all with ADHD --and I definitely needed one).

I used the cleanest toothpastes I could fine then switched back to more common ones that people use (like whatever Crest and Coalgate whitening) but I am sure there are faults with those.
Some make their own with baking soda... maybe baking soda and vinegar. Same with soaps (some use baking soda and some other things).

Some replace their clothing detergent and even drycleaning (poisonous which sucks but maybe not all?? probably all though nearly) with handwashing and like some small artisan soap companies with all natural ingredients. A lot are bs, some are real though.

Just make all your own soaps, lotions, plant all your plants, and raise all your animals bro. While living off the grid and swimming and fasting 99days. It gets hard for sure.

 

[Fazed22]

I was using nothing like that and only natural soap and maybe no shampoo no conditioner for a couple yrs. I did add deodorant maybe 4-6mo maybe 6-8mo into recovery but I think natural smell came back and wasn't there for a time. It is hard not using cologne or soap ever lol but initially people's endocrine systems can be too sensitive. I reread some of Tubzy's log and he avoided all chemical things for a while.

I think I was pretty strict about this at least 2/3maybe all of 2018. I think I added more back in 2019 and nothing really hurt me but I still used low ingredient stuff.
I think carnivore takes care of MOST Of this or Tubzy's diet that he decided upon in the end.

I was pretty strict about detergents and stuff, I had excema and asthma as a kid but things still had a few ingredients. I do notice more sneezing with some laundry products.
I use Bioderma, Clarins, some Vichy stuff and if they are poisonous... I don't really care but I added them back as I got better. For the first year or most of it, I was pretty anal retentive about it.

I don't think one has to be forever, but maybe 1-2 years is fine. Carnivore or mineral balancing or electrolyte protocol can take care of most of it. Long water fasting before did too but I was in a weak state then, and I am glad I was strict, I just think it is impractical long run. Some people do but surely a strict diet long run and exercising hard and maybe adding sauna and the like can circumvent any issue there.

If you are having detoxing issues, and they aren't being resolved with your protocol, then it may be worth doing so bro.

I never had my own custom made creams and soaps but some people do that with colognes and stuff. Some people used Every Man Jack on Swole Source. I think Walker and CD did. Those are good too.

I did use *gasp* DOVE Soap eventually. For a long time I used Aveeno Apple Cider Vinegar Hair Wash. When things ran out in 6mo or a year or in shortages during the lockdown, I got what I could get and they were mostly clean and I was obsessive about it a bit but mostly for fear of ruining my routine. (Hard to make one at all with ADHD --and I definitely needed one).

I used the cleanest toothpastes I could fine then switched back to more common ones that people use (like whatever Crest and Coalgate whitening) but I am sure there are faults with those.
Some make their own with baking soda... maybe baking soda and vinegar. Same with soaps (some use baking soda and some other things).

Some replace their clothing detergent and even drycleaning (poisonous which sucks but maybe not all?? probably all though nearly) with handwashing and like some small artisan soap companies with all natural ingredients. A lot are bs, some are real though.

Just make all your own soaps, lotions, plant all your plants, and raise all your animals bro. While living off the grid and swimming and fasting 99days. It gets hard for sure.

Nah I am not concerned about the soap I use, I have no issues with it, was just wondering your thoughts about Gbold saying he doesn't use soap to wash lol

 

[MNK99]

Haha I read it as he makes his own shyt. maybe I didn't read it write.

I Don't man maybe. Some carnivores don't use any shampoo, conditioner or only use carnivore based ones.

I have read some people not using any soap lol on RayPeat too. And in other communities. I think he is messing with people though. Maybe he just rinses off. Not sure.

He may be living in the ocean at this point.
Maybe he's on some Genghis Khan tip: "I only wash my penis inside of women." Genghis supposedly said something like this.

IDK man he could be telling the truth but he does embellish the points at times. As to why would someone lie about only using water and no soap, and having all your soap made from your local farm... your guess is as good as mine bud )).

TBH I did accidentally start no products in hair and only washing with water. But I added back products. I think I mostly rinsed a lot of 2021-2023 also. This reminds me that is ok.
Rest I will use soap though.

 

[MNK99]

Ages different from Aged meat, AGES are just some toxins formed when you see that browning when you fry a steak, or browning on toast or potatoes. If you water boiled or pressure cooked your food I think would make you feel better.

6mo-1 yr from now probably won't bother you. It is impossible to get rid of all toxins forever. And be perfectly pure. People can get close, with a good enough reason (a terrible life destroying illness) for a year, 2 years, maybe 3 yrs tops but most cannot. Some ppl fear it causes cancer, I think it is good to be careful now, but a year from now you won't worry about it at all. Good to focus on detox pathways now tho.

 

[RebelWithACause]

The Vietnam Tarzan who grew up in the wild even baked/charred his meat. He had no frame of reference of a "normal life". He was pretty healthy until he got taken in by the village and started drinking alcohol and other modern stuff.

Don't understand why people even take Dr Wilson serious. He's been a weirdo who cuts out practitioners for no reason (he hears voices, the voices told him to cut them out). He is a schizophrenic. His stuff does help. But he has not been able to fix his mental illness in all those years. Red flag.

I used to fall for his bullshit as well when I was sick. Because *surprise* when you are sick you try to hold on to anyone who has a deterministic POV.

He is a weirdo even thinks circumcision is GOOD. It's not. I have been operated on my dick when I was a kid (not circumsision which is even worse) and years later I still had trauma and difficult with being open to women with sex. It gave me a light form of PTSD for sure. It makes you more aggressive and less emotional under control. Just like war vets who go crazy when they come back.

I think he is Jewish so this is why he believes that stuff.

He said to have sex with sweat pants on. Have sex without having sex (putting your dick inside a vagina and just lay there), pulling down exercise. A lot of spiritual bullshit.

He is so far from a normal human. But yes taking some stuff he promotes is good e.g. vegetables are good for detoxing for sure. The rest is all garbage lol. It's crazy. He mixed in some good stuff with a lot of crap.

 

[Fazed22]

 

[RebelWithACause]

Never understood the premise of sugar causing cancer. Except maybe making you more anabolic (lowering stress) which could cause more growth? Sugar is pretty clean fuel.

That's why I dislike ketotards hating on sugar like it's a poison. Traditional keto is way worse in all ways possible in my opinion. Especially long term.

Does that mean everybody can pound back the sugar? No! Because a lot of people have dysfunctional metabolisms (lack minerals, toxic minerals, vitamins, etc.)

 

[Fazed22]

Never understood the premise of sugar causing cancer. Except maybe making you more anabolic (lowering stress) which could cause more growth? Sugar is pretty clean fuel.

That's why I dislike ketotards hating on sugar like it's a poison. Traditional keto is way worse in all ways possible in my opinion. Especially long term.

Does that mean everybody can pound back the sugar? No! Because a lot of people have dysfunctional metabolisms (lack minerals, toxic minerals, vitamins, etc.)

I think when glucose metabolism is down and you're fermenting sugars into lactic acid for energy (warburg effect) which is the metabolism of cancer, then sugar is an issue.

I was looking at what gbold thought cancer was and he said :

"I had cancers which means that you have viral and bacterial load at the same time, and the body cant go into an extreme PH to kill the infection. or the virus.

Since if it goes into acid, virus grows and if it goes into alkaline bacteria grows. This is what cancer is. It is a fork between bacterial infection and viral, so the body cant go to the extreme PH . one side or another.

This is why they say in cancer you need to swing. between PHs , acid alkaline, acid alkaline. Many times extreme swings for short periods of time.

Or use antivirals and antibiotics at the same time. HUGE load of antiviral and antibiotics will beat cancer.

IMO cancer is always the fork between bacterial infection and viral. Since if the body had only one infection it would just go into the extreme PH and kill it on one side"

Then there are some people that believe that cancer tumors are a protective mechanism by the body. So when there is too much toxicity in the body the tumor acts as a toxin storage site in an attempt to protect us from the toxicity.

Cancer tumors were found to have high levels of heavy metals compared to healthy tissue.

 

[MNK99]

I at the very least agree that Wilson is insane. As does Helen and many many other people. On H/S and offline too. He was a wackjob (RIP).

 

[RebelWithACause]

He's not dead. But def. insane. Just read about "rogues". It's crazy how nuts you can become. Although his info did help me so I'll always respect him for that.

 

[MNK99]

Oh my mistake. I thought he started hairtesting in the 1970s or 80s. I thought he was like 70, 20-30 yrs ago. I see. I thought they were collecting hairtests like 50 yrs ago. He must be 77 if I had to guess.

I will check some of his stuff out. Seems he is 60 something, and he took over Eck's work in 1998 or so.

 

[MNK99]

AGES break down by stomach acid. Human beings were cooking over fire 2.6million yrs. Grilling a steak over it... you will char it a bit, you gonna eat it anyways. Our ancestors did millions of yrs. 1mn yrs plus, maybe even 4mn yrs (maybe raw then). It will be seared and taste much better. If bad for you, it shouldn't taste good (kind of simplistic, but true if you are on strict carnivore).

Isotope aging, shows people ate meat 2.6 mn years ago. If AGES is making you sick, I'd look elsewhere, it is the plant materials you are consuming. Maybe browning some butter, and this and that causes some issues, but I'd also check your butter or whatever you're cooking with (a lot of butter has "milk ingredients", it should be like butter, salt.)

Like this supposedly is good but the non salted one has some fake stuff in it. Yogurts, sour creams, kefirs, cheeses are infamous for having cellulose, guar, xanthan, carageenan these days. At least in Canada and I am sure the USA.

Everyone in my family who had cancer, they were literally eating hella sugar, compared to me. My little cousin that passed away, there's evidence keto/carnivore helps that exact cancer. His parents of course were stressed, but they aged, bc they went on vegan. Like me, eating sugar/ cheating on carnivore vs doing it strictly. Though fasting, and eating a fair amt of carbs ,I still looked young.

Had a cousin's husband get thyroid cancer. I am willing to bet it was the vax, maybe smoking cigars when younger also... but the vax and carbs (processed foods, alcohol too).
An uncle who just passed away, smoking, but mostly vegetarian (also meat, but the meat was safe and good), it was veg food that caused that. And that's where the sugar is.
He ate meat but also processed Indian food.

Haidut's wrong about a lot of stuff. It is funny he now sells hairtests and that rant he had against Gbolduev, saying: "He is now a full Peatarian/Peatard", was crazy.

Literally everything wrong with the American Heart and Stroke Foundation and the American Diabetes Association and other similar organizations, are the diets they adhere to.

They say meat causes cancer, "studying" a Mcdonalds meal, blaming it entirely on the 4 ounce patty. While completely ignoring the veg oil or similar cooked potato fries (and other stuff),the bread, the lettuce, the sauce, the plant seasoning, and the coca cola beverage.

Vegans think carnivore die of heart disease, meanwhile many vegans died of very sketchy circumstances, and heart disease really young.

"balanced diet (whatever that means)" is good, but only in countries without toxic food supplies. LIKE not the USA (unless a person is rich or at least has enough funds and is very picky).
Canada should be safer like Europe but I think it is pretty toxic too. Although cereals made in America have less dies and less fake ingredients in the Canadian versions.
Are peanut butters, etc are still very fake and margarine and all that is all over the supermarkets.

Having your own cows or mastadons, or a farm you order from.. and a dairy connection is ideal. IN AMERICA, NY...HTMA is illegal LOL. TEI is illegal in NY.
AND also... in Canada, Health canada can call you if you order from TEI. They did call me in 2018.

And many provinces in Canada and States in the USA, "Raw Dairy" cannot be sold for human consumption (or is outright illegal to have for sale in stores). It is crazy.

Less asthma, less inflammation, and less autoimmune conditions, like severe allergies in populations that grew up with raw dairy.
Skim milk is fine for bulking (for people that still do that). whole fat milk, A2, and goat or sheep's milk is better for a lot of people. Making own dairy is more ideal.


Also, if you are sick at the hospital, they feed you trash literally.. sugar water, this and that. Uncontrolled growth, metastasis is horrible.

Even with a great diet, sugar years later increased fat cell size and number, hence, the tiny bit of loose skin removal I had. Though fasting for years and lifting tightened up 97% of it everywhere (minus any normal loose skin, if I truly have hEDS or HSD (probably I mean wtf)). Bulking and cutting and recomping tightened it up too. But mostly time and all.

Uncontrolled growth = death. Uncontrolled cell death = also can equal death, which is kind of why chemo is so bad.

We need Anabolism and Catabolism at different times. Like, I did with water fasting, then building new cells, and breaking down in the gym, and building with eating afterwards. Like most ppl strive for.
Times to focus on mitophagy and autophagy can help more than any medicine in the world. I am sure mineral balancing, helps mitochondrial repair but if one can get mineral tests and do it solo, or get help of a practitioner, or do it by say fasting, or fasting and swimming in the ocean... that is even better. Staying out of our own body's way, to heal. Give it the right things and it works.

Doing nothing at all close to conventional medical wisdom (I mean besides: "eat well", "move a lot", "don't smoke"), served me well since puberty.
Less or no vaxes except a couple and then vax like half my life later. And like yeah not getting checked up by shrinks, not taking and outright rejecting any anxiety/depression help,
telling em I need dex or an ADHD doctor, controlling my treatment. telling them politely, or letting them come to the conclusion about hEDS/HSD -- let them come to conclusion about hypermobility if I don't know em, otherwise outright ask for referrals. If docs aren't serving you right, and you are conscious and actually competent -then fire them. Save docs for acute care, like emergencies.

Otherwise, for heart, preventing chronic disease, disability, longevity etc... yeah I won't listen to them and never did.


This is mostly random information.

There's lots of annecdotes showing keto/ carnivore,low carbs rather can shrink tumors... but they don't study it much.

There are many keto trials that finished or are ongoing... showing it helps tons ... mental illness, diabetes, etc, etc.

Even like 5% of heart doctors now aren't all pissy about LDL-C and total triglycerides, and whatever else... and carnivore diet.

You can see vegan "docs" (many faked credentials lol) on youtube talking shit about carnivore. And how horrible they look.

You can also see guys like Shawn Baker and Anthony Chaffee wanting people to stay off their operating table, by switching their diet to carnivore.

 

[highserotonin90]

@Fazed22 Drinking coffee (polyphenols) or taking B1 when eating red meat should transport iron where you don't want it? or are these combinations that wouldn't make sense? since you also mention neuropathy / demyelination you could try alpha lipoic acid but be careful that you will have to dose it constantly because it is a chelator and probably also has an affinity for iron. Of all the things suggested by Gbouldev I would really like to try the liver flushes... acetylcholine is destroying me, hypothyroid, hypoadrenalism... acetylcholinesterase cannot restore itself, it's hell.

PS: ceruloplasmin necessity magnesium i think and ATP

 

[highserotonin90]

Ages different from Aged meat, AGES are just some toxins formed when you see that browning when you fry a steak, or browning on toast or potatoes. If you water boiled or pressure cooked your food I think would make you feel better.

if you don't have skeletal muscle denervation your neuropathy is definitely reversible...i'm looking for a way to eat red meat and "inhibit" iron...for example eating beef heart

 

[Fazed22]

@Fazed22 Drinking coffee (polyphenols) or taking B1 when eating red meat should transport iron where you don't want it? or are these combinations that wouldn't make sense? since you also mention neuropathy / demyelination you could try alpha lipoic acid but be careful that you will have to dose it constantly because it is a chelator and probably also has an affinity for iron. Of all the things suggested by Gbouldev I would really like to try the liver flushes... acetylcholine is destroying me, hypothyroid, hypoadrenalism... acetylcholinesterase cannot restore itself, it's hell.

PS: ceruloplasmin necessity magnesium i think and ATP

Yeah coffee can help me sometimes with the nerve stuff I think because it helps with glucose oxidation, deals with iron and is neuroprotective. The neuropathy only happens when I eat certain bad foods and is not permenant, I have tried alpha lipoic acid but I have found chelators like EDTA and fulvic the most helpful for getting rid of the neuropathy/numbness symptpms when they do flare.

Demyelinating Conditions Like MS Can Be Treated By Androgens I think if I can get my androgens working strongly this can fix the nerve issues for good.

 

[Fazed22]

AGES break down by stomach acid. Human beings were cooking over fire 2.6million yrs. Grilling a steak over it... you will char it a bit, you gonna eat it anyways. Our ancestors did millions of yrs. 1mn yrs plus, maybe even 4mn yrs (maybe raw then). It will be seared and taste much better. If bad for you, it shouldn't taste good (kind of simplistic, but true if you are on strict carnivore).

Isotope aging, shows people ate meat 2.6 mn years ago. If AGES is making you sick, I'd look elsewhere, it is the plant materials you are consuming. Maybe browning some butter, and this and that causes some issues, but I'd also check your butter or whatever you're cooking with (a lot of butter has "milk ingredients", it should be like butter, salt.)

Like this supposedly is good but the non salted one has some fake stuff in it. Yogurts, sour creams, kefirs, cheeses are infamous for having cellulose, guar, xanthan, carageenan these days. At least in Canada and I am sure the USA.

Everyone in my family who had cancer, they were literally eating hella sugar, compared to me. My little cousin that passed away, there's evidence keto/carnivore helps that exact cancer. His parents of course were stressed, but they aged, bc they went on vegan. Like me, eating sugar/ cheating on carnivore vs doing it strictly. Though fasting, and eating a fair amt of carbs ,I still looked young.

Had a cousin's husband get thyroid cancer. I am willing to bet it was the vax, maybe smoking cigars when younger also... but the vax and carbs (processed foods, alcohol too).
An uncle who just passed away, smoking, but mostly vegetarian (also meat, but the meat was safe and good), it was veg food that caused that. And that's where the sugar is.
He ate meat but also processed Indian food.

Haidut's wrong about a lot of stuff. It is funny he now sells hairtests and that rant he had against Gbolduev, saying: "He is now a full Peatarian/Peatard", was crazy.

Literally everything wrong with the American Heart and Stroke Foundation and the American Diabetes Association and other similar organizations, are the diets they adhere to.

They say meat causes cancer, "studying" a Mcdonalds meal, blaming it entirely on the 4 ounce patty. While completely ignoring the veg oil or similar cooked potato fries (and other stuff),the bread, the lettuce, the sauce, the plant seasoning, and the coca cola beverage.

Vegans think carnivore die of heart disease, meanwhile many vegans died of very sketchy circumstances, and heart disease really young.

"balanced diet (whatever that means)" is good, but only in countries without toxic food supplies. LIKE not the USA (unless a person is rich or at least has enough funds and is very picky).
Canada should be safer like Europe but I think it is pretty toxic too. Although cereals made in America have less dies and less fake ingredients in the Canadian versions.
Are peanut butters, etc are still very fake and margarine and all that is all over the supermarkets.

Having your own cows or mastadons, or a farm you order from.. and a dairy connection is ideal. IN AMERICA, NY...HTMA is illegal LOL. TEI is illegal in NY.
AND also... in Canada, Health canada can call you if you order from TEI. They did call me in 2018.

And many provinces in Canada and States in the USA, "Raw Dairy" cannot be sold for human consumption (or is outright illegal to have for sale in stores). It is crazy.

Less asthma, less inflammation, and less autoimmune conditions, like severe allergies in populations that grew up with raw dairy.
Skim milk is fine for bulking (for people that still do that). whole fat milk, A2, and goat or sheep's milk is better for a lot of people. Making own dairy is more ideal.


Also, if you are sick at the hospital, they feed you trash literally.. sugar water, this and that. Uncontrolled growth, metastasis is horrible.

Even with a great diet, sugar years later increased fat cell size and number, hence, the tiny bit of loose skin removal I had. Though fasting for years and lifting tightened up 97% of it everywhere (minus any normal loose skin, if I truly have hEDS or HSD (probably I mean wtf)). Bulking and cutting and recomping tightened it up too. But mostly time and all.

Uncontrolled growth = death. Uncontrolled cell death = also can equal death, which is kind of why chemo is so bad.

We need Anabolism and Catabolism at different times. Like, I did with water fasting, then building new cells, and breaking down in the gym, and building with eating afterwards. Like most ppl strive for.
Times to focus on mitophagy and autophagy can help more than any medicine in the world. I am sure mineral balancing, helps mitochondrial repair but if one can get mineral tests and do it solo, or get help of a practitioner, or do it by say fasting, or fasting and swimming in the ocean... that is even better. Staying out of our own body's way, to heal. Give it the right things and it works.

Doing nothing at all close to conventional medical wisdom (I mean besides: "eat well", "move a lot", "don't smoke"), served me well since puberty.
Less or no vaxes except a couple and then vax like half my life later. And like yeah not getting checked up by shrinks, not taking and outright rejecting any anxiety/depression help,
telling em I need dex or an ADHD doctor, controlling my treatment. telling them politely, or letting them come to the conclusion about hEDS/HSD -- let them come to conclusion about hypermobility if I don't know em, otherwise outright ask for referrals. If docs aren't serving you right, and you are conscious and actually competent -then fire them. Save docs for acute care, like emergencies.

Otherwise, for heart, preventing chronic disease, disability, longevity etc... yeah I won't listen to them and never did.


This is mostly random information.

There's lots of annecdotes showing keto/ carnivore,low carbs rather can shrink tumors... but they don't study it much.

There are many keto trials that finished or are ongoing... showing it helps tons ... mental illness, diabetes, etc, etc.

Even like 5% of heart doctors now aren't all pissy about LDL-C and total triglycerides, and whatever else... and carnivore diet.

You can see vegan "docs" (many faked credentials lol) on youtube talking shit about carnivore. And how horrible they look.

You can also see guys like Shawn Baker and Anthony Chaffee wanting people to stay off their operating table, by switching their diet to carnivore.

Yeah I think depends on the state of your health how you will be able to deal with AGES, for example I used to be able to steaks everyday no issues then when my gallbladder issues started browning on meat,carbs started causing me liver/gallbladder pain and inflammatory symptoms.

I did share info about AGES with another health community and that boiling beef can help avoid AGES formation and I got messaged by a handful of people saying they felt so much better when they switched to boiling their beef instead of pan frying it.

Probably on carnivore which is a very anti inflammatory diet then maybe AGES aren't an issue.

 

[MNK99]

I forgot you had some gallbladder pain, for sure I have some stuff sometimes, some liver or stomach pain, when I cheat or if I eat too many bad foods (like pre carnivore). I think kidney, liver, gallbladder (maybe I had pain there but liver for sure) pain reduced more and more for me by September and October 2018. Sometimes I have penile pain and testicular pain, I am sure on a small dose of HCG, which I didn't continue last year. On test cream/dht cream a bit too, mostly reduced.

Yeah, I agree with you bro @Fazed22. It must just be more of an issue in your current health state. Boiling may be a good way for now. Just try not to overcook it. Over time, you will tolerate more and more foods, and in different ways (ways you like too). I am certain.

 

[RebelWithACause]

I boiled meat as well in the start of TEI. Personally never noticed huge differences. But it was easy at the time I just put the meat on top of boiling vegetables. Now I do whatever. Still don't notice much difference.