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@bruschi11 you were not taking B complex during the years?
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I really only took b2 until late 2022. Maybe folate at times. Except for 6/7 months in 2019/2020 I used a bunch of Bs with nutrition lady who really messed me up.
In late 2022 I started b12 Greg’s formula and hydroxy really almost saved me as I healed over 3 months.
I clearly needed to fix hormoens tho. Dhea cycles were helping then killed me eventually.
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I really hope the severity I am in now is because I’ve been taking iodine while in true b12 def.
While in reality we need b12 to run iodine. As b12 makes both succinate for GTP for bh4 and ERb activation is pro IDE.
As iodine being pro ERa raises insulin.
B12 being pro ERb lowers insulin (ide )
And I’ve been taking a lot of iodine.
It’s cobalt and iodine dropping in Oligoscans badly from TRT. Cobalt comes before iodine.
In a high insulin state. ERb comes before ERa.
ERb activates IDE. IDE is the need
While in reality we need b12 to run iodine. As b12 makes both succinate for GTP for bh4 and ERb activation is pro IDE.
As iodine being pro ERa raises insulin.
B12 being pro ERb lowers insulin (ide )
And I’ve been taking a lot of iodine.
It’s cobalt and iodine dropping in Oligoscans badly from TRT. Cobalt comes before iodine.
In a high insulin state. ERb comes before ERa.
ERb activates IDE. IDE is the need
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The first night I ever took b12. I watched “this nurse saved my life”.
A movie about a nurse whose life was saved by b12 who then would make sure her doctors would check patients for b12 issues.
It was over 6 years ago. Mid December 2019. Opened my eyes to how severe b12 deficiency is.
The b12 reaction that night was too much. I lost my mind. Didnt sleep. But two days later I felt amazing for a day.
Thing is I thought I was just a b2 guy. That I needed b2 Greg’s way to use b12. I didn’t get it that cobalt literally sinks. It’s a mineral the Oligoscans show it. The oligoscans show cobalt going very low . I also didn’t get that b12= methionine for selenium utilization to convert b2 to its active form FMN. Greg had it all wrong and Kathleen Stewart told me this.
I’ve been blaming my horrible bloodwork 3 weeks ago on the test suspension and shutting myself down. But honestly.
I was on two supps at the time. For 4 days I took nothing but test suspension and iodine. And then I get the worst bloodwork I’ve ever seen and my head evaporates the next few weeks even when converting to TRT.
Yes I think the Hormoens epi andro and 4 andro can help ERb . But I truly believe cobalt comes first. And Freddd was the guy accurate in his approach.
A movie about a nurse whose life was saved by b12 who then would make sure her doctors would check patients for b12 issues.
It was over 6 years ago. Mid December 2019. Opened my eyes to how severe b12 deficiency is.
The b12 reaction that night was too much. I lost my mind. Didnt sleep. But two days later I felt amazing for a day.
Thing is I thought I was just a b2 guy. That I needed b2 Greg’s way to use b12. I didn’t get it that cobalt literally sinks. It’s a mineral the Oligoscans show it. The oligoscans show cobalt going very low . I also didn’t get that b12= methionine for selenium utilization to convert b2 to its active form FMN. Greg had it all wrong and Kathleen Stewart told me this.
I’ve been blaming my horrible bloodwork 3 weeks ago on the test suspension and shutting myself down. But honestly.
I was on two supps at the time. For 4 days I took nothing but test suspension and iodine. And then I get the worst bloodwork I’ve ever seen and my head evaporates the next few weeks even when converting to TRT.
Yes I think the Hormoens epi andro and 4 andro can help ERb . But I truly believe cobalt comes first. And Freddd was the guy accurate in his approach.
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I got better when selenium went high in hair.
Which runs on b12.
What led to the high sele? Chromium b5 approach the first time (fad really). In early 2021.
Then taking methyl adeno b12 in late 2022. These are the two times sele went up but also my last actual physical recovery where I could life in spring 2022 sele went from low to normal.
It’s sele utilization I’ve been saying since summer 2024 that really matters. And oligoscan depicts that.
Sele utilization runs on b12.
Now do we need estrogen for sele usage? I think so. And that’s the kicker as pushing bh4 too hard ends up depleting iodine which then needs to be fed cuz t4 deficiency is just gonna let t3 die.
Cuz this is about fixing t3 let’s be honest.
Which runs on b12.
What led to the high sele? Chromium b5 approach the first time (fad really). In early 2021.
Then taking methyl adeno b12 in late 2022. These are the two times sele went up but also my last actual physical recovery where I could life in spring 2022 sele went from low to normal.
It’s sele utilization I’ve been saying since summer 2024 that really matters. And oligoscan depicts that.
Sele utilization runs on b12.
Now do we need estrogen for sele usage? I think so. And that’s the kicker as pushing bh4 too hard ends up depleting iodine which then needs to be fed cuz t4 deficiency is just gonna let t3 die.
Cuz this is about fixing t3 let’s be honest.
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Everything I say sounds nice but reality is the body is made of hydrogen carbon oxygen nitrogen.
When the balance of these chemicals go out of whack for too long neurodegen disease happens and advances.
I’m 37 and I’ve been sick for a long time. But really really sick for 2 if not 3 years.
I can formulate all I want and be 100% accurate . And still have 0% of healing.
And that’s just how I feel today.
When the balance of these chemicals go out of whack for too long neurodegen disease happens and advances.
I’m 37 and I’ve been sick for a long time. But really really sick for 2 if not 3 years.
I can formulate all I want and be 100% accurate . And still have 0% of healing.
And that’s just how I feel today.
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Ok so carnitine raises nadph . Converting T to e2 and cholesterol to preg.
E2 via ERb is the key to iron/ chromium/ cobalt is what I’m saying. While iodine is ERa,
ERb is the key to controlling insulin. ERa can raise it.
I mean this goes just with Freddds protocol. Carnitine b12 gets ERb going from T. ERb= chromium iron etc and I proved that in August 2024 oligoscan.
E2 via ERb is the key to iron/ chromium/ cobalt is what I’m saying. While iodine is ERa,
ERb is the key to controlling insulin. ERa can raise it.
I mean this goes just with Freddds protocol. Carnitine b12 gets ERb going from T. ERb= chromium iron etc and I proved that in August 2024 oligoscan.
@bruschi11 Is there a way to figure out if your neuro issues are from B12 deficiency? Finding some expert in this field that can give you some data apart from you testing with oligoscan? Also I would do consultation with Selig which I think is the best practitioner that is using HTMA Back to Natural Health
You HAVE TO consider the possibility that you can do more than what you are doing now for the last couple of years..
I am not saying to jump blindly at some protocol of someone because I know it fucked you up before. But just hearing opinions of other people and make your own decision based on your experiences that you gained over the years..
You are far from done and ready to die.. But I know it is hard to be positive all the time and keep going. Especially when you are comparing your life situation now to your previous great life.. There is a lot of people who would kill to be in your shoes.. It is up to you if you will be grateful that your glass is half full or if you cry that your glass is half empty.. It is about perspective..
You HAVE TO consider the possibility that you can do more than what you are doing now for the last couple of years..
I am not saying to jump blindly at some protocol of someone because I know it fucked you up before. But just hearing opinions of other people and make your own decision based on your experiences that you gained over the years..
You are far from done and ready to die.. But I know it is hard to be positive all the time and keep going. Especially when you are comparing your life situation now to your previous great life.. There is a lot of people who would kill to be in your shoes.. It is up to you if you will be grateful that your glass is half full or if you cry that your glass is half empty.. It is about perspective..
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My glass was half full 2.5 years ago.
I got out of the psyche ward and tried to stay positive to begin 2024. But it was over . Even when I got my htma looking a lot nicer and brought my iron up in late 2024 early 2025. It was over.
Selig is what he is. I tried to hire him in 2022. He said he requires his patients to do coffee enemas literally daily. So as I talked to his wife and sent over stuff and ideas and my history. I did a coffee enema . It caused a bad crash.
His wife got back to me and said it seems like I’m not a good match for him. As I was on supplements (literally was losing my mind after someone put me on biotin and took b2 and it saved me that summer) he wouldn’t work with someone taking supplements already.
I called him a cunt. Told him he’s a piece of shit. So he won’t work with me
Dr. Anthony beck did same thing to me a year later in 2023. I was keeping my head attached to my body with b12 b5 b2 biotin minerals in 2023 and beck said I had to get off or he wouldn’t work with me. I decided to go ahead and give it a chance myself with what I was doing as I was most stable I had been in over 6 months when we talked. Heck we saw my thalamus grow back in an mri with what I was doing.
2 months after beck I ended up in the psyche ward. I decided there I would stop all supplements and work with Beck.
My mother spoke to Beck while I was in psyche ward. Beck decided to triple the price of my program because I was now deemed a psyche patient.
Coward. I’ve told him a few times now he’s a coward for what he did to me.
My life could’ve been saved. Beck was about fixing methionine and hormones which I think was exactly what I needed
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I’m trying to hang in there. The cobalt and chromium did raise for first Time in a week. They crashed to begin TRT . That’s what happened .
Like I was worried about iodine crashing and I kept giving it. But it was cobalt that died on TRT both times
Like I was worried about iodine crashing and I kept giving it. But it was cobalt that died on TRT both times
@bruschi11 yeah Selig is hardcore lol. His approach is also not ideal. I heard that people on his program often can function normally. I am surprised that he didn't kill anyone or at least I didn't heard about it.. But I think he has really good knowledge. Other nutritional balancing practitioners are not even close like that Luke guy and others. They know absolutely nothing apart from how to manipulate hair test taking micronutrients..
Btw I still think you should look at your glass as half full. You have at least the ability to do/try something. Most people don't have the tools to do any of that..
Btw I still think you should look at your glass as half full. You have at least the ability to do/try something. Most people don't have the tools to do any of that..
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I’m trying today man. Thanks for helping try to keep me in it.
My friend who’s healed said to me today “b12 causes depression”. And I realize yea it’s a start up I’m dealing with. The iodine and carnitine fumarate given with it yesterday didn’t help.
I think it’s ERb. Which is basically selenium utilization system . That runs on b12 and chromium.
The last time I felt any sense of normality was late May 2024. The day of my last trip to a psyche ward was most normal I’ve felt. After psycho reaction to inositol.
Inositol another pro ERb next to cr and co. And it raises estrogen from T. I didn’t feel any better after that until injection a little T a couple months later as I was collapsing.
Thing is. I quit b12 for good after the inositol. I think it was a huge mistake. As my b12 eventually sunk in Oligoscans. And I just kept getting worse.
I went a year without b12. I think it was crazy that mistake. And the oligoscan cobalt is important. We need that stuff
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It’s hard to explain it. Like my bathroom and my body smell like… the same smell that my shit smelled like growing up.
Like this smell is what my shit smelled like as a normal person many many many years ago.
I’m not certain. But I think this began from b12?
I have a copper smell and estrogen smell. A fluoride detox smell. And now a “your shit smells similar to that when you were a normal human”.
I guess that’s a good thing?
My brain? Not anywhere near ok.
Like this smell is what my shit smelled like as a normal person many many many years ago.
I’m not certain. But I think this began from b12?
I have a copper smell and estrogen smell. A fluoride detox smell. And now a “your shit smells similar to that when you were a normal human”.
I guess that’s a good thing?
My brain? Not anywhere near ok.
@bruschi11 I have no sense of smell from birth. I should be one crying here it is over that it actually never even started for me lol..
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That’s b12 def. Selenium utilization essentially.
Hence your low t3. It’s actually just low t3 to be honest. But b12 def causes selenium utilization issues for t3 production. Which I’ve really diagnosed many with cfs both boys and girls.
Trust me on this I’ve been at this for 12 years . I’ve had smell for many short stints. Then many years without smell. Then it comes back.
It only has really come back when I am clearly getting thyroid working.
Now you can say this is actually potassium deficiency.
Why? Cuz potassium really seems to be the last step to copper availability.
Copper availability really does seem to be the kicker in the utilization of selenium for t3 production. But I think estrogen receptor beta and e2 have to go with it for it to happen.
Cuz ERb= bh4 = tyrosine for iodine utilization for t4.
I’ve made a lot of posts here. But let this be a lasting one.
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^^^^ this is basically electrolytes protocol.
How b12 is basically the key. And it could be a way of b12 utilization like chromium for me. But sometimes you gotta directly to b12 if you’re that bad and in real cobalt/b12 deficiency.
Oligo is fascinating really. As i think it’s really telling us we truly need to find a way to get cobalt in the tissues or cells. Or whatever the fuck the amazing device is measuring.
I don’t know exacts about the thing. But I truly believe oligoscan is legit in diagnosing this stuff.
Reality is copper and estrogen are b2 when you think of it all. Assuming ERb is the key to dumping iron and copper. But if we only dump iron without copper we kill t3 needed to raise fmn and fad. Selenium becomes toxic.
How b12 is basically the key. And it could be a way of b12 utilization like chromium for me. But sometimes you gotta directly to b12 if you’re that bad and in real cobalt/b12 deficiency.
Oligo is fascinating really. As i think it’s really telling us we truly need to find a way to get cobalt in the tissues or cells. Or whatever the fuck the amazing device is measuring.
I don’t know exacts about the thing. But I truly believe oligoscan is legit in diagnosing this stuff.
Reality is copper and estrogen are b2 when you think of it all. Assuming ERb is the key to dumping iron and copper. But if we only dump iron without copper we kill t3 needed to raise fmn and fad. Selenium becomes toxic.
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^^^^ this is basically electrolytes protocol.
How b12 is basically the key. And it could be a way of b12 utilization like chromium for me. But sometimes you gotta directly to b12 if you’re that bad and in real cobalt/b12 deficiency.
Oligo is fascinating really. As i think it’s really telling us we truly need to find a way to get cobalt in the tissues or cells. Or whatever the fuck the amazing device is measuring.
I don’t know exacts about the thing. But I truly believe oligoscan is legit in diagnosing this stuff.
Reality is copper and estrogen are b2 when you think of it all. Assuming ERb is the key to dumping iron and copper. But if we only dump iron without copper we kill t3 needed to raise fmn and fad.
How b12 is basically the key. And it could be a way of b12 utilization like chromium for me. But sometimes you gotta directly to b12 if you’re that bad and in real cobalt/b12 deficiency.
Oligo is fascinating really. As i think it’s really telling us we truly need to find a way to get cobalt in the tissues or cells. Or whatever the fuck the amazing device is measuring.
I don’t know exacts about the thing. But I truly believe oligoscan is legit in diagnosing this stuff.
Reality is copper and estrogen are b2 when you think of it all. Assuming ERb is the key to dumping iron and copper. But if we only dump iron without copper we kill t3 needed to raise fmn and fad.