How much has ARL/TEI helped you?

[RebelWithACause]

I haven't been able to start any programs yet but after reading around on this forum for a couple months now I can't seem to decide if ARL or TEI is actually worth doing. Is it a cure at all? Can anyone actually say they are cured from these programs? Everyone still seems to have some sort of problem , sexual or non sexual. I was hopeful at first but I'm starting to think its all some marketing scam as with everything else on the Internet.

Not yet cured but moving in the right direction.

All the programs (cdsnuts, TEI, letrozole, finasteride cycling) I have seen take at least a few months with the exception of some people who got cured fast. So choose a path and get started.

It is not a scam. The hairtest shows your stress reaction. Read Goose12 his log to see how he is doing. He has improved a lot. I am still on the second cycle but I can tell you I at a much higher baseline than I was. I was sceptical too but once I did the first cycle and I saw the results after going off the supplements I knew this was a viable way to go. You will understand what I mean once you have done a TEI cycle.

My mental health has improved a lot. I have almost no depression anymore. No anxiety. Right now my libido is low because I am on a TEI cycle and they are lowering estrogen which means low libido. Even ON this second cycle I have noticed a lot of improvement in mental side effects. I have become very mentally stable on this second cycle. I cannot wait to see how I feel off the supplements. In the beginning I felt worse on the supplements as you can read in my log.

Before TEI I was manic, up-down-up-down, aggressive, emotionally unstable and not a pleasant person to be around. I still have short episodes of this but after I get better. This is also called a "flare up" or a "healing reaction". Yes it sounds woo-woo but it is true from what I have experienced.

It is not an instant cure but I am certain it will cure you in the long run. You need to do one of the protocols instead of reading about it. Then you will see.

 

[Admiral]

Bump..

 

[esp90]

Everybody who is considering doing TEI -just do it...i was sceptical too but im so grateful I tried it. Just wish I did it 10 years ago...

 

[RebelWithACause]

I know I wrote about it before. But every cycle I notice a bit different things. So here I will just spill it.

TEI is intense man this stuff works but it takes a while. You feel more waking up to reality. About all your shit you believe about yourself and others. And it is not always pleasant. Sometimes it is actually SCARY. It fucks you up. Because you become more aware probably.

This is especially on this cycle for me.

Slowly you go back into reality and who you were. It is a strange feeling.

"Here you are motherfucker this is what is really going on, now deal with it" That reality can be UGLY

For example I see that I always used sex, drugs, sports and other stuff to run away from reality. I lived very fake. Very superficial. I liked the image of me more than the actual person inside of it. Now that all that stuff is stripped away I just feel pain on some days. It is like something is crushing you on that day. There is no hiding anymore from it. This is it. This is the pain you try to run away from your whole life. This is why people become addicts to whatever. To not feel pain.

This is how people end up becoming a fake parody of themselves like I became.

No more fantasies or making up stuff in my mind that I am better than I am. Nope. I am not that great. And it is time to fix it.

This is raw reality.

I hope to get even better in this regard. I like this as a "side effect" of TEI - dealing with all the bullshit that holds you back.

I am guessing if you have been sick for a long time (5+ years) you are going to go through hell eventually when you get better. All your shit will come up. Everything. Nothing is lost. It is all kept.

I think in TEI you are not just fighting PFS. You are fighting everything. All the BS you put your body through. All the mental BS, all the physical BS, all of it.

The process is slow but steady.

 

[bruschi11]

I know I wrote about it before. But every cycle I notice a bit different things. So here I will just spill it.

TEI is intense man this stuff works but it takes a while. You feel more waking up to reality. About all your shit you believe about yourself and others. And it is not always pleasant. Sometimes it is actually SCARY. It fucks you up. Because you become more aware probably.

This is especially on this cycle for me.

Slowly you go back into reality and who you were. It is a strange feeling.

"Here you are motherfucker this is what is really going on, now deal with it" That reality can be UGLY

For example I see that I always used sex, drugs, sports and other stuff to run away from reality. I lived very fake. Very superficial. I liked the image of me more than the actual person inside of it. Now that all that stuff is stripped away I just feel pain on some days. It is like something is crushing you on that day. There is no hiding anymore from it. This is it. This is the pain you try to run away from your whole life. This is why people become addicts to whatever. To not feel pain.

This is how people end up becoming a fake parody of themselves like I became.

No more fantasies or making up stuff in my mind that I am better than I am. Nope. I am not that great. And it is time to fix it.

This is raw reality.

I hope to get even better in this regard. I like this as a "side effect" of TEI - dealing with all the bullshit that holds you back.

I am guessing if you have been sick for a long time (5+ years) you are going to go through hell eventually when you get better. All your shit will come up. Everything. Nothing is lost. It is all kept.

I think in TEI you are not just fighting PFS. You are fighting everything. All the BS you put your body through. All the mental BS, all the physical BS, all of it.

The process is slow but steady.

I love it man.

What you state is reason why I’ll be pretty dependent on fasting and liver flushes for majority of this ride back along with ARL (I work with practitioner who is more ARL type). Also things like colloidal silver, anti-fungals, rife/lasers, sauna, cold therapy etc etc.

For the people that have been sick a long time. Things build up in the body and the ride back can be long and tedious. But honestly, I’m out here trying to show the road doesn’t have to be that long, that tedious.

I’m really trying to emulate @Helen here when I read about his recovery. He made a post on a POIS website damn I wish I could find it. But in that post he called it “my recovery year”... he did it all from the fasting to balancing to flushes to diet. He was a sick dude but proved you can get better pretty quickly if you go all out.

Look at @Orion . He’s emulated that to a T and look he’s barely on this site anymore living his life strongly.

I wasn’t even balancing yet in late 2017 but I put a bunch of things together and boom by early ‘18 after introducing betaine hcl and increasing protein intake I was in an incredible place before injury/hydrogen.

I think the body can be rounded into form relatively quickly and the balancing program is important, but the extracurricular activities are there with it that can increase the power of the program possibly 10-fold.

Synergy... where 1+1+2+4 can actually equal 500. Synergy is a beauty in life. Whether it’s people working together or utilizing therapies to get your body stronger.

I have a friend who started a company and is doing everything himself and things aren’t going well it seems. I don’t know that for a fact, but signs arent good and I tried to tell him “man get so and so to come help you run this, you can’t do this all yourself.”

I know if he utilized the power of synergy between human beings in making his company go, he’d have a much better shot of making it work. Unfortunately, he doesn’t see that yet.

Balancing is an incredible asset we have on our sides here. For a lot of us... a required asset possibly- I think it’s possible some people can’t get better without it. But we can make this really great asset much much stronger with its Synergistic tools.

Last example- @Walker with joov/ balancing. Your balancing has really taken off since you added that right man? I love reading your updates.

I think sure we have this amazing asset here now, but some people just need to find the correct tools to go with it to speed up the process.

 

[Walker]

I love it man.

What you state is reason why I’ll be pretty dependent on fasting and liver flushes for majority of this ride back along with ARL (I work with practitioner who is more ARL type). Also things like colloidal silver, anti-fungals, rife/lasers, sauna, cold therapy etc etc.

For the people that have been sick a long time. Things build up in the body and the ride back can be long and tedious. But honestly, I’m out here trying to show the road doesn’t have to be that long, that tedious.

I’m really trying to emulate @Helen here when I read about his recovery. He made a post on a POIS website damn I wish I could find it. But in that post he called it “my recovery year”... he did it all from the fasting to balancing to flushes to diet. He was a sick dude but proved you can get better pretty quickly if you go all out.

Look at @Orion . He’s emulated that to a T and look he’s barely on this site anymore living his life strongly.

I wasn’t even balancing yet in late 2017 but I put a bunch of things together and boom by early ‘18 after introducing betaine hcl and increasing protein intake I was in an incredible place before injury/hydrogen.

I think the body can be rounded into form relatively quickly and the balancing program is important, but the extracurricular activities are there with it that can increase the power of the program possibly 10-fold.

Synergy... where 1+1+2+4 can actually equal 500. Synergy is a beauty in life. Whether it’s people working together or utilizing therapies to get your body stronger.

I have a friend who started a company and is doing everything himself and things aren’t going well it seems. I don’t know that for a fact, but signs arent good and I tried to tell him “man get so and so to come help you run this, you can’t do this all yourself.”

I know if he utilized the power of synergy between human beings in making his company go, he’d have a much better shot of making it work. Unfortunately, he doesn’t see that yet.

Balancing is an incredible asset we have on our sides here. For a lot of us... a required asset possibly- I think it’s possible some people can’t get better without it. But we can make this really great asset much much stronger with its Synergistic tools.

Last example- @Walker with joov/ balancing. Your balancing has really taken off since you added that right man? I love reading your updates.

I think sure we have this amazing asset here now, but some people just need to find the correct tools to go with it to speed up the process.

Yeah, I definitely could tell a major difference on how I felt taking the supplements when I started daily Red light/infrared light therapy. On top of that, my last week of vacation - I swam in the ocean, sun bathed, grounded with walking in the sand barefoot, cold water therapy (ocean was cold), and joovv at night..... damn I felt amazing, and I was even partaking in alcohol being on vacation.

I think using stuff like this together can be great, if we’re smart about it. However, I’m also coming at it from a far-less compromised position (no PFS, PAS, PSSD, Lyme) as others on this forum, so maybe my body is able to handle that many forms of detox/balancing activities at once. Something to think about as well.

 

[Snow1]

I know I wrote about it before. But every cycle I notice a bit different things. So here I will just spill it.

TEI is intense man this stuff works but it takes a while. You feel more waking up to reality. About all your shit you believe about yourself and others. And it is not always pleasant. Sometimes it is actually SCARY. It fucks you up. Because you become more aware probably.

This is especially on this cycle for me.

Slowly you go back into reality and who you were. It is a strange feeling.

"Here you are motherfucker this is what is really going on, now deal with it" That reality can be UGLY

For example I see that I always used sex, drugs, sports and other stuff to run away from reality. I lived very fake. Very superficial. I liked the image of me more than the actual person inside of it. Now that all that stuff is stripped away I just feel pain on some days. It is like something is crushing you on that day. There is no hiding anymore from it. This is it. This is the pain you try to run away from your whole life. This is why people become addicts to whatever. To not feel pain.

This is how people end up becoming a fake parody of themselves like I became.

No more fantasies or making up stuff in my mind that I am better than I am. Nope. I am not that great. And it is time to fix it.

This is raw reality.

I hope to get even better in this regard. I like this as a "side effect" of TEI - dealing with all the bullshit that holds you back.

I am guessing if you have been sick for a long time (5+ years) you are going to go through hell eventually when you get better. All your shit will come up. Everything. Nothing is lost. It is all kept.

I think in TEI you are not just fighting PFS. You are fighting everything. All the BS you put your body through. All the mental BS, all the physical BS, all of it.

The process is slow but steady.

This is so true, I’m finding this with ARL, originally I only cared about my general health but it’s like after a few rounds It draws you into addressing your own inner self and you also end up on a soul searching journey.

 

[Jesus85spf]

Hello friends from spain
4'5 años en spf.

Im going to star my first tei, my supplements will arrive soon, how long should I take this supplements? 1 month? 2 month?

 

[RebelWithACause]

Hello Jesus from Holland you need to do at least 3 cycles of 2 months. Greetings to Spain

 

[Jesus85spf]

[QUOTE = "RebelWithACause, post: 52530, miembro: 1486"] Hola, Jesús, de Holanda, debes hacer al menos 3 ciclos de 2 meses. Saludos a España [/ CITA]

Thanks for the info bro, had i to take a break between cycle and cycle? For example 1 month? Sorry for my bad English..

 

[RebelWithACause]

[QUOTE = "RebelWithACause, post: 52530, miembro: 1486"] Hola, Jesús, de Holanda, debes hacer al menos 3 ciclos de 2 meses. Saludos a España [/ CITA]

Thanks for the info bro, had i to take a break between cycle and cycle? For example 1 month? Sorry for my bad English..

Yea I take around 1 week to 3 weeks break. But last time I went without a break. You can choose. It does not matter.

 

[Blugrass]

I am still undecided on whether NB is helpful in my case, or maybe NB is not what I should start with. I feel like all this Calcium and Magnesium in pills is just rocket fuel for the BioFilm in my body, I can feel the pathogen load getting bigger I take the sups.

Everyone is different and I have no doubt that ARL/TEI are great for some people.
for me, I would like investigate different approaches.

 

[tanedout]

I am still undecided on whether NB is helpful in my case, or maybe NB is not what I should start with. I feel like all this Calcium and Magnesium in pills is just rocket fuel for the BioFilm in my body, I can feel the pathogen load getting bigger I take the sups.

Everyone is different and I have no doubt that ARL/TEI are great for some people.
for me, I would like investigate different approaches.

It's great that some people do well on ARL/TEI, and I've found quite a few testimonials on PhoenixRising etc where people have said it's one of the best things they've done, but I've not been able to find anything where people have 'completed the course' and feel great without taking anything, it just seems to be continuous.

Presumably when you are finished you have all your minerals ratios in range, and no high amounts of toxic metals, and you will not be 'prescribed' any supplements. I can remember one person here having a TEI test where there were no recommended supplements, so their ratio's must've been pretty much spot on, yet they still had full blown PFS.

My take is it could well be a benefit to get your body in a better state, but curing PFS,PAS,CFS etc is a deeper issue with enzymes not working correctly or receptor issues.

 

[RebelWithACause]

It's great that some people do well on ARL/TEI, and I've found quite a few testimonials on PhoenixRising etc where people have said it's one of the best things they've done, but I've not been able to find anything where people have 'completed the course' and feel great without taking anything, it just seems to be continuous.

Presumably when you are finished you have all your minerals ratios in range, and no high amounts of toxic metals, and you will not be 'prescribed' any supplements. I can remember one person here having a TEI test where there were no recommended supplements, so their ratio's must've been pretty much spot on, yet they still had full blown PFS.

My take is it could well be a benefit to get your body in a better state, but curing PFS,PAS,CFS etc is a deeper issue with enzymes not working correctly or receptor issues.

I feel like piss on some days on these supps. I wouldn't want to take them forever. I want to live natural TBH. But this way seems the fastest way to fix this imbalance. I'd rather not take any pills incl. vitamins and mineral pills. I'm done with all that stuff. But if it works it works. Gotta do something

 

[Admiral]

My take is it could well be a benefit to get your body in a better state, but curing PFS,PAS,CFS etc is a deeper issue with enzymes not working correctly or receptor issues.

I think so as well. I think it will definitely help anyone to get healthier, especially when you add in the diet and healthy lifestyle, hence the progression some are having. It won't cure PFS nor has NB cured anyone here where in fact we have tons trialling TEI/ARL. I will be convinced once someone with low androgens is cured and has normal blood levels to proof it.

 

[RebelWithACause]

Yea nothing will cure PFS. Nothing works. Just ignore the people who are doing better and better. Blablabla.

Can't you see you already made up your mind? You don't want to do NB. So stop doing it and try something else.

Instead of questioning this every week focus on it for a while and shut up.

I'm getting sick of this attitude. It is defeatist. There are multiple ways as we can see. For some TEI is working for others not. But it seems people want reassurance every week that it is working or not. That is stupid!

 

[TubZy]

It's great that some people do well on ARL/TEI, and I've found quite a few testimonials on PhoenixRising etc where people have said it's one of the best things they've done, but I've not been able to find anything where people have 'completed the course' and feel great without taking anything, it just seems to be continuous.

Presumably when you are finished you have all your minerals ratios in range, and no high amounts of toxic metals, and you will not be 'prescribed' any supplements. I can remember one person here having a TEI test where there were no recommended supplements, so their ratio's must've been pretty much spot on, yet they still had full blown PFS.

My take is it could well be a benefit to get your body in a better state, but curing PFS,PAS,CFS etc is a deeper issue with enzymes not working correctly or receptor issues.

Who was the person who got suggested no supps on here for TEI?

 

[tanedout]

Who was the person who got suggested no supps on here for TEI?

Can’t remember the users name, but it was on this forum about a year or so ago. He got dietary recommendations, but nothing for supplements, and his mineral ratios were all pretty good. I’ll have a search later

 

[Helen]

Can’t remember the users name, but it was on this forum about a year or so ago. He got dietary recommendations, but nothing for supplements, and his mineral ratios were all pretty good. I’ll have a search later

I have never seen anything like that in years of people doing hairtests. Especially for people with accutane, PFS, etc. I'd like to see this.

You need to understand that enzymes are minerals and amino acids, and vitamin cofactors, receptors are amino acids and transcriptional enzymes.

it is all enzymes. All of this is mineral balance. liver health. etc


Is NB programs correct. I am not sure. but the fix is minerals and vitamins and aminos. That is a fact. I am not sure what people mean, when they talk about Deeper issues. There is nothing deeper than that.

I want to emphasize to you that it is not a substitution therapy. where they just feed you some minerals. IT IS A CHELATION THERAPY where they try to chelate some minerals out, using other minerals.

Same can be done with hormones, same can be done with chelators. etc

I'm not sure if NB people read the hair correctly in some imbalances, I am still researching this myself. But there is nothing deeper than minerals and aminos and vitamins, and you should be able to regulate yourself out of any imbalance using those, unless you have organ damage , physical organ damage

Of course the question is still about the proper program or system of doing this.




here is the dude which was doing NB for accutane

 

[Helen]

@tanedout let's assume accutane causes copper overload in the cell for slow oxidizer. Since accutane raises metabolism, and body thinks it is faster than it is. so it keeps putting copper into the cell.

then you quit accutane, or finasteride, but copper is still in the cell. and thus progesterone rises too much, and cortisol falls.

since progesterone rises too much 3 beta hsd is induced and this spends your tryptophan making NAD.

so NAD is low.

this is why some people have high SAH. since enzyme which converts SAH further is NAD based.


SO the question is how do you get rid of copper from the cell.

In my opinion if you speed up metabolism you just put more copper into the cell may be this is why some thing works, while you are on it. and then when you quit people go back into PFS.( like finasteride)

Like when people go ON FInasteride, ( which is progesterone) is speeds up the metabolism, they feel better, then its action stops boom , back to PFS


SO may be the correct and the fastest way would be to SLOW down the metabolism greatly so the body dumps copper out of the cells.


For instance for slow oxidizer, it could be done with cortisol supplements.


NB people I think just induce metallothionine to do this I guess, so they stop copper absorbtion for a while by binding it in the intestine.



May be this is what ella is. Ella stops progesterone. So if you take ella, this drops potassium, and the body has to dump copper out of the cell and raise thyroid.

SO then after you quit ella, progesterone restores. potassium is retained. but since copper enzymes is less now, you need less of progesterone and 3beta hsd is not induced so much, and you you are not wasting iron, b2 , etc. and also pyroluria ( which induced metalothionine stops) and zinc levels go up


This is as a possible explanation.