Ihatefin log

[PAS]

Ihatefin, when you took RU when did it start showing any difference. Did it happen the same days you took or did the effects come later.
Also when did you take Randro after RU. Is it possible to take it without exercising.

Finally, did the benefits from ru and /or Randro stick or fade away? Which ones did and which ones did not?

Thanks man! Im on my 2 nd of 4th day of ru (50mg). No difference felt yet.

 

[stupidfreak]

Are ru/ella effects longlasting or just temporary?

 

[Goose12]

Are ru/ella effects longlasting or just temporary?

For the most part they are permanent. Each time I have tried ru there has been huge improvements in anxiety and digestion and slight sexual improvements.

After my first cycle I had a huge increase in dick sensitivety put it leveled out after a couple of weeks, but It was still a welcome improvement.

@Lost I didn’t notice much while one RU. The improvements come from the snap back which occur a couple days post ru, and keep coming two weeks post.

 

[jacknap]

another quick update:

02/11/2018

i just finished an amazing work out and felt very strong and warm AF. after dosing my gelatin, msm, boron, tongkat ali, trib today and potassium my scalp is feeling like little prickles or little needles. classic dht itch.

i know solving this is not through upregulation of 5ar, but the gelatin works all too well at it and im enjoying it very much.

I use collagen powder almost daily in my coffee.

 

[PAS]

@Goose12 Thanks for telling me that ! I was thinking that even RU didnt work for us PAS guys. The only difference I notice for now is my sleep is a bit stronger(nothing like prePAS though). Did you have libido improvements on RU ?

@IHateFin hey bro, can you read post 161 and see what you can answer about that. Did your effects from RU and/ or Randro stick ?

 

[IHateFin]

Ihatefin, when you took RU when did it start showing any difference. Did it happen the same days you took or did the effects come later.
Also when did you take Randro after RU. Is it possible to take it without exercising.

Finally, did the benefits from ru and /or Randro stick or fade away? Which ones did and which ones did not?

Thanks man! Im on my 2 nd of 4th day of ru (50mg). No difference felt yet.

i did two cycles of ru; one 3 days and one 9 days.
the 3 day one i felt no different while taking it except for day 3 when i took 100mg instead of 50mg i felt low cortisol symptoms big times and adrenaline surge to compensate. i felt changes days after starting on day 4 roughly.
with the longer ru cycle i felt different several days in.

i mention in my log which affects stick from randro and which dont. after my first randro cycle i would say that the main thing that stuck was strength and the 2nd one everything stuck since sometimes i still feel like im on randro (low estrogen, very androgenic, poppy joints, ridiculous strength and endurance in the gym and gym euphoria). libido also stuck 2nd time around.

 

[IHateFin]

Are ru/ella effects longlasting or just temporary?

they last

 

[Willylong98]

i did two cycles of ru; one 3 days and one 9 days.
the 3 day one i felt no different while taking it except for day 3 when i took 100mg instead of 50mg i felt low cortisol symptoms big times and adrenaline surge to compensate. i felt changes days after starting on day 4 roughly.
with the longer ru cycle i felt different several days in.

i mention in my log which affects stick from randro and which dont. after my first randro cycle i would say that the main thing that stuck was strength and the 2nd one everything stuck since sometimes i still feel like im on randro (low estrogen, very androgenic, poppy joints, ridiculous strength and endurance in the gym and gym euphoria). libido also stuck 2nd time around.

What were your dosages?

 

[PAS]

Thats awesome IhateFin,would you say it is possible to take Randro without exercising?

Also how good are you rught now? I mean how close to pre pfs. Whats your plan from now on my man

 

[Goose12]

@Goose12 Thanks for telling me that ! I was thinking that even RU didnt work for us PAS guys. The only difference I notice for now is my sleep is a bit stronger(nothing like prePAS though). Did you have libido improvements on RU ?

@IHateFin hey bro, can you read post 161 and see what you can answer about that. Did your effects from RU and/ or Randro stick ?

I did have labido improvements post ru. RU seems to improve all symptoms. For me anxiety, digestion, and personality were the biggest improvements and life changing.

In my opinion ru is the greatest thing we have in our arsenal so far and if you have high estrogen sides I think r andro is the best thing you can try.

 

[IHateFin]

What were your dosages?

the three day cycle i took 50/50/100 and had a great snap back.

cycle 2 was 9 days with 50mg taken every other day and i think one day in there i took it twice in a row, but it was 9 days total.

 

[IHateFin]

Thats awesome IhateFin,would you say it is possible to take Randro without exercising?

Also how good are you rught now? I mean how close to pre pfs. Whats your plan from now on my man

i would say its possible, yes. i think moderate weight training helps the progress along when done in the morning, but Randro will still do what it needs to do in your body either way.

im doing really good. still have good n meh days, but overall i would say that im 60% on meh days with 75% in certain areas and 75% on good days with 90% in certain areas.
not a great scale, but its hard to generalize it without writing a novel of what i go through lol

 

[IHateFin]

What sort of sides are you guys getting from gelatine? I've just got some delivered, and I'm already taking potassium chloride, but want to know what to look out for!

im currently not getting any sides from gelatin

 

[stupidfreak]

Did randro and proviron shed your hair?

 

[IHateFin]

Did randro and proviron shed your hair?

proviron didnt, but Randro did.

keep in mind tho i havent taken proviron in ages and i have yet to take it since being so receptive to androgens

 

[K8668B]

proviron didnt, but Randro did.

keep in mind tho i havent taken proviron in ages and i have yet to take it since being so receptive to androgens

Im suprised to hear it. I was considering proviron, but i heard ehhh about it. Supposedly barely even leans you out, and doesnt give you muscle gains in the gym( dont need TOO much more muscle anyways, but a 3-5 lb increase would be perfect), while making you shed hair. Randro didnt do anything for me. and it didnt make me shed either. (i dont think there was anything in them). but of the two, i would think proviron would be stronger and more likely to make you shed hair. i dont mind shedding hair, but the sexual gains would have to stick for it to be worth it. For some reason, i was under the impression that proviron was a bandaid, and once you stop, the gains dont stick. interesting though


edit- then again, you DID say you seem to be more receptive to androgens these days. And you took the proviron a long time ago.

 

[IHateFin]

Im suprised to hear it. I was considering proviron, but i heard ehhh about it. Supposedly barely even leans you out, and doesnt give you muscle gains in the gym( dont need TOO much more muscle anyways, but a 3-5 lb increase would be perfect), while making you shed hair. Randro didnt do anything for me. and it didnt make me shed either. (i dont think there was anything in them). but of the two, i would think proviron would be stronger and more likely to make you shed hair. i dont mind shedding hair, but the sexual gains would have to stick for it to be worth it. For some reason, i was under the impression that proviron was a bandaid, and once you stop, the gains dont stick. interesting though


edit- then again, you DID say you seem to be more receptive to androgens these days. And you took the proviron a long time ago.

Yeah Randro didn't do much for me either back then. Ru is what propelled me to be responsive to androgens and then with each Randro cycle I've gotten more n more receptive.

I'd have to take proviron rn in order to tell you which is better, but I rather not take it haha it's synonymous with not doing much tho

 

[TubZy]

Yeah Randro didn't do much for me either back then. Ru is what propelled me to be responsive to androgens and then with each Randro cycle I've gotten more n more receptive.

I'd have to take proviron rn in order to tell you which is better, but I rather not take it haha it's synonymous with not doing much tho

Yeah, I think there is a tolerance to R andro or plateau effect. After my first cycle, I didn't get the same effects at all, I dropped it a while back. Others seemed to notice this as well. It doesn't seem to work that great after the first time.

 

[IHateFin]

Yeah, I think there is a tolerance to R andro or plateau effect. After my first cycle, I didn't get the same effects at all, I dropped it a while back. Others seemed to notice this as well. It doesn't seem to work that great after the first time.

For me it worked better the 2nd cycle than the first. My third is coming soon so hopefully I don't build a tolerance haha I want it to be even stronger this time!

 

[TubZy]

For me it worked better the 2nd cycle than the first. My third is coming soon so hopefully I don't build a tolerance haha I want it to be even stronger this time!

Nice, this is your first time trying without using RU prior to it right? It would interesting to see how you respond this time