Jamie's log - fast oxidation, PE, TE

Jamie

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That's high time to post some information about my recent experience and I would like also to start some discussion about given cases.

So from the beggining,
- Fast oxidizer, very lean, rally fast metabolism, half of an year ago it started to speed up even more and I lost lots of muscle mass especially from legs and arms in the previous few months. Also it has always been hard for me to gain weight.
- I could eat lot of eggs with sasuage and 1,5h later I get very hungry, could not workout because I was just getting instantly hungry
- weak muscles, low energy, strength - I was very strong, muscular 2 years ago, I could go to train martial arts, rest a bit, then go to gym, and later go to ride on a bicycle and felt awesome at the end of the day
- Hair shedding, thinning over the whole top area
- Very thin, fine, brittle hair on the top, and not grey but some kind of being deprived of color on the whole my head
- Really bad premature ejaculation, and getting spontanously aroused (3-5times a day) for completely no reason. It is really embarassing, I tried to focus during lectures, or study and all of a sudden my D wanted to lacerate everything...
- Very high anxiety, heart racing, waking up with high adrenaline like I was completely tired but my body wanted to act, run, do something very fast
- Oil-sebum, getting oily forehead, hair, hands very fast. I could wash them and after 6 hours my head was covered with oil

3-4 weeks ago I started copper, selenium, potassium, methionine, magnesium, calcium, D3.
Effectsc for which I am extremely thankful to @gbolduev:
- completely no oil, zero, my forehead after whole day is still dry in a good way
- no heart racing, no adrenaline shots
-get rid of muscle weakness, I could go to gym and workout
- I get rid of spontanous erections, I mean it works when it has to and rest when it has to. PE is not so bad but still is there
- shedding is less but still seems to be, like there are days when it looks like there is no shed and days when it seems to return
- hair bit thicker, they are not so hard deprived of color, does not look like hay
-I can workout, I got rid of being constantly hungry

I tried to stop taking it, to see if it sticks, but it seems that I was getting worse with with time so I started it again. Maybe will try to stop in the next 1-2 week


If somebody would ask - I never took fin, I took saw palmetto one year ago, but it didn't seem to have any effect on me.
Was also taking ricinoleic acid which now seems to be very stupid, but at that time was helpful, made hair thicker, less shed...

I am very curious how, why does it work like that. When I started taking those supplements I got immediately very high levels of energy, hairs stopped shedding, they got extremely thick and healthy, PE was the less I had ever had in my life. I was just reborn. But now those effects seems to subside... Am I missing something? Is there something else?
 
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Nina

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I can’t answer your questions, but im interested to know. Do you think you were always a fast oxidizer or did your lifestyle encourage it?
 

Jamie

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I d rather say that I have always been. I don't know if it is somehow connected but I had a traumatic 5 months lasting period in my life, acute stress, depression. It was 3 years ago and at that time I started shedding.
 

mattyb

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I am very curious how, why does it work like that. When I started taking those supplements I got immediately very high levels of energy, hairs stopped shedding, they got extremely thick and healthy, PE was the less I had ever had in my life. I was just reborn. But now those effects seems to subside... Am I missing something? Is there something else?

I hate to say it, but it could honestly just be placebo effect.
 

mattyb

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Have you actually just tried upping your food intake to very high levels? How old are you? What's your weight/height?

Young guys routinely undereat, especially if they are super active. People constantly underestimate their required calorie intake. I'm curious if you've ever tracked calories to see how much you actually eat. I'm also interested in what your carb intake is like. Your metabolism does sound pathologically high, but increasing calories may go a long way to improving things.

Have you ever had your thyroid checked?
 

Jamie

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I am 21 years old, 173cm, before holidays my weight was 73kg, ~11% body fat, now it is 69kg. Legs and hands have weakened the most.

First test:
TSH - 3,21 range(0,27-4,20)
FT4 - 14,34 (12-22)
FT3 - 5,05 (3,1-6,8)
Thyroid USG didn't show anything wrong

Second test:
TSH - 2,925 (0,38 - 5,33)
FT3 - 3,52 (2,5 - 3,9)
FT4 - 0,8 (0,61 - 1,12)
Prolactin - 14,69 (2,64 - 13,13)
D3 - 37,31 (20-100)

Now carbs intake is lower, as it was very annoying to eat 300g of noodle and get hungry half of an hour later. Now I eat more fat foods, feel just better on them.
 
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Jamie

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Can high FT3, and low FT4 be connected to high ft4 to ft3 conversion due to adrenal problem or something?
 

brix

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Can high FT3, and low FT4 be connected to high ft4 to ft3 conversion due to adrenal problem or something?

I have high FT3 and low FT4 as well. Also have the same issues as you.
Someone on RP told me to increase vit A as this will help the FT3 be utilized better in the body.
 

Jamie

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I have high FT3 and low FT4 as well. Also have the same issues as you.
Someone on RP told me to increase vit A as this will help the FT3 be utilized better in the body.

Isn't cortisol responsible to blocking ft4 to ft3 conversion?
Do you have maybe cortisol lab tests?
 

brix

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Isn't cortisol responsible to blocking ft4 to ft3 conversion?
Do you have maybe cortisol lab tests?

The only cortisol test I have is from a year ago when my PFS was at its worst.

CORTISOL 13.8 ug/dL - I think the reference range is 6-23 ug/dL
 

Jamie

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The only cortisol test I have is from a year ago when my PFS was at its worst.

CORTISOL 13.8 ug/dL - I think the reference range is 6-23 ug/dL
Was it a normal blood test, or maybe dexamethazone stopping test(you take it in the evening to see what cortisol levels will be producent through night)?
 
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Jamie

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I am 21 years old, 173cm, before holidays my weight was 73kg, ~11% body fat, now it is 69kg. Legs and hands have weakened the most.

First test:
TSH - 3,21 range(0,27-4,20)
FT4 - 14,34 (12-22)
FT3 - 5,05 (3,1-6,8)
Thyroid USG didn't show anything wrong

Second test:
TSH - 2,925 (0,38 - 5,33)
FT3 - 3,52 (2,5 - 3,9)
FT4 - 0,8 (0,61 - 1,12)
Prolactin - 14,69 (2,64 - 13,13)
D3 - 37,31 (20-100)

Now carbs intake is lower, as it was very annoying to eat 300g of noodle and get hungry half of an hour later. Now I eat more fat foods, feel just better on them.


Other blood test:
Ferritin - 113,7 (23.9 - 336,2)
Iron - 23 (10,6 - 28,3)
Insulin - 6,32 (1,9 - 23)
Calcium - 9,85 (8,8 - 10,6)
Glucose - 86 (60-99)
B12 - 356 (180 - 914)
Cholesterol 3.8 (<5)

I last feel far worse. I am extremely hungry all day again. Hair shedd is back, hairs are like a hay. Oilness didn't occur.