Longterm users of Nutritional Balancing

[RebelWithACause]

It seems like (not sure as its just an idea i had) that increased adrenaline levels seem to have an effect on hairloss. Magnesium/potassium cause lower ventilation thus increase adrenaline to breathe faster = hair loss? Copper increases adrenaline = hair loss?

Also this seems kinda weird as theres special hairloss shampoo with caffeine in it (i see it all over TV)

Also a big part of it seems to be excessive sex/masturbation. I did some reading on the so called ‘nofap’ forum and people seem to have better hair growth after stopping masturbation. Im pretty sure Helen said sex causes a parasymphatic state which would again increase adrenaline to make you ventilate faster.

Just a theory though. I sometimes have my hair falling out but not all the time and not just in one spot. For me it seems related to thyroid. When i am very active and lower my carbs to moderate levels (say 100grams a day) and eat enough protein (like, 100 grams also) it seems to be a lot less or even go away.

I forgot to mention btw that Keto also caused bad bad hair loss in me. I also got grey hairs on it (im 21 lol). They went away again after i started eating more carbs.

This guy talks about ketogenic diet:

He says it is catabolic and this is the reason why people lose hair on it and hard to build muscle. This is about real keto macros. Not just "low carb".

 

[TubZy]

This guy talks about ketogenic diet:

He says it is catabolic and this is the reason why people lose hair on it and hard to build muscle. This is about real keto macros. Not just "low carb".

Not surprising when it's considered the body's back up mechanism

 

[supernature]

Well, great that you chopped down that picture lol .

What about K, Fe, Ca, Na/K, Ca/Mg, Cu/Zn, Fe/Cu ... its not only about copper level alone. It might easily look like substitution cause copper is the only one too low.

There are several reasons for why copper is low. Does not always mean substitution is the only way.

This is from Bluegrass 1st hair test where Helen asks him if they prescribed him copper plus and as copper is at its lowest they seems to substitute it with suppl even so Helen said ARL, TEI does not.

Heres link to the full graph

https://hackstasis.com/threads/my-h...-i-fast-or-slow.939/#lg=attachment549&slide=0

It might be the low copper alone, might be the highish free iron so the copper and b2 to work on that. It seems Helen doesnt want to engage in details, understandable to a degree since there are people around here trying to go to be nutritionists in real life, thats why i guess certain discussions arent going to happen cause lots of details could float up. @Helen

 

[Nina]

This guy talks about ketogenic diet:

He says it is catabolic and this is the reason why people lose hair on it and hard to build muscle. This is about real keto macros. Not just "low carb".

Yeah, thats why its mostly used for weight loss purposes im sure. It was an experiment i did but i wouldn’t wanna do it forever. Eating meat all day sucks.

 

[bruschi11]

The explaination what it does is clear to me personally.

I understand why some guys who are on TEI have their doubts from time to time since you can go up and down on it a lot. Last few days I had a shitty feeling and feeling down, etc. now today all of a sudden I feel better again and I feel GOOD. Not cured but GOOD. Definitely a better baseline.

I.

You think you understand but you really don’t in terms of the whole big picture. In terms of NB science yes you’re getting this stuff and experiencing really intricate, interesting, all sorts of stuff right now. That’s making you go forward in the long run.

Healing is a freakin cool experience. Esspecially when it’s your whole body. From your athletic abilities, mental acuity, speech and communication with other humans, sexuality, ability to feel pleasure and happiness, body composition, looks, you name it.

Most of us here haven’t healed before you you’re doing it rebel, you’re doing it @Goose12 , @tonysoprano and so on.

And you’re taking a route that works for you. And in most people in this world that aren’t really sick, it will work for them.

But in the post drug world. We just have a lot of really messed up people. Bad things happened to us which led to lots of bad things happening in the body that may need to be looked at beyond Nutritional Balancing.

This isn’t all of us. Maybe 50%, maybe 15%, maybe 5%. We’ll never know exacts.

Being in this post drug world for nearly 2.5 years now. Having messed with endocrine system stuff 3 years before that. Going from hormone-centric to natural health addict over this time. Nutritonal balancing is an asset on our sides we can all utilize and should appreciate.

But it just may not be step #1 in that percentage scenario I write above. Step #1 might need to be a 20 day fast. Step #1 could be knocking out organisms Living in body.

There’s a reason why a lot of people aren’t doing good with NB here. It just might not be step #1 for you. It might take too long. Look at rebels ups and downs. The next guy that 4 months could be 4 years.

Long rant here, but 2 examples. Braziliandudue- pfs recovery in mid 2010s. He did autohemotherapy for awhile, he did all sorts of holistic stuff, and some pharma stuff like these injections. Finally, last thing he did that got him cured was 16 months of extremely clean alkaline diet while drinking 80! Oz of fresh squeezed veggie juices daily.

16 months of 80 Oz juiced DAILY and he barely ever missed a days. There’s your nutritional balancing right there. But would have this all worked for him had he not done a lot before that? He went from impotent in bed all day to normal-ish life before that with his other stuff pre juices. Juices were his finishing touch like NB I believe will be for me.

Another guy.. @Cdsnuts . Goes from antibiotics for Lyme for years to fasting and raw food diet to herbs and paleo diet. After removing all the bad from his system with fasting and plant based, dude just needed to balance his diet (now that his system could and was able) with proteins in it and herbs brought even more nutrition.

NB is a fascinating field we are lucky to have here. But sometimes you gotta find your step #1 on your way back before it. And sometimes you don’t and you can heal pretty quickly on it like several here are doing.

 

[HerrFisch]

This is from Bluegrass 1st hair test where Helen asks him if they prescribed him copper plus and as copper is at its lowest they seems to substitute it with suppl even so Helen said ARL, TEI does not.

Heres link to the full graph

https://hackstasis.com/threads/my-h...-i-fast-or-slow.939/#lg=attachment549&slide=0

It might be the low copper alone, might be the highish free iron so the copper and b2 to work on that. It seems Helen doesnt want to engage in details, understandable to a degree since there are people around here trying to go to be nutritionists in real life, thats why i guess certain discussions arent going to happen cause lots of details could float up. @Helen

Could be just that sky high Aluminum alone.

 

[RebelWithACause]

You think you understand but you really don’t in terms of the whole big picture. In terms of NB science yes you’re getting this stuff and experiencing really intricate, interesting, all sorts of stuff right now. That’s making you go forward in the long run.

Healing is a freakin cool experience. Esspecially when it’s your whole body. From your athletic abilities, mental acuity, speech and communication with other humans, sexuality, ability to feel pleasure and happiness, body composition, looks, you name it.

Most of us here haven’t healed before you you’re doing it rebel, you’re doing it @Goose12 , @tonysoprano and so on.

And you’re taking a route that works for you. And in most people in this world that aren’t really sick, it will work for them.

But in the post drug world. We just have a lot of really messed up people. Bad things happened to us which led to lots of bad things happening in the body that may need to be looked at beyond Nutritional Balancing.

This isn’t all of us. Maybe 50%, maybe 15%, maybe 5%. We’ll never know exacts.

Being in this post drug world for nearly 2.5 years now. Having messed with endocrine system stuff 3 years before that. Going from hormone-centric to natural health addict over this time. Nutritonal balancing is an asset on our sides we can all utilize and should appreciate.

But it just may not be step #1 in that percentage scenario I write above. Step #1 might need to be a 20 day fast. Step #1 could be knocking out organisms Living in body.

There’s a reason why a lot of people aren’t doing good with NB here. It just might not be step #1 for you. It might take too long. Look at rebels ups and downs. The next guy that 4 months could be 4 years.

Long rant here, but 2 examples. Braziliandudue- pfs recovery in mid 2010s. He did autohemotherapy for awhile, he did all sorts of holistic stuff, and some pharma stuff like these injections. Finally, last thing he did that got him cured was 16 months of extremely clean alkaline diet while drinking 80! Oz of fresh squeezed veggie juices daily.

16 months of 80 Oz juiced DAILY and he barely ever missed a days. There’s your nutritional balancing right there. But would have this all worked for him had he not done a lot before that? He went from impotent in bed all day to normal-ish life before that with his other stuff pre juices. Juices were his finishing touch like NB I believe will be for me.

Another guy.. @Cdsnuts . Goes from antibiotics for Lyme for years to fasting and raw food diet to herbs and paleo diet. After removing all the bad from his system with fasting and plant based, dude just needed to balance his diet (now that his system could and was able) with proteins in it and herbs brought even more nutrition.

NB is a fascinating field we are lucky to have here. But sometimes you gotta find your step #1 on your way back before it. And sometimes you don’t and you can heal pretty quickly on it like several here are doing.

Yes you are right. I am not sure if this will cure me - it is still an experiment, I hope it does of course. But we are doing multiple things. Let's say this works then we can advice this to other people in the future. Or maybe what you are doing works better. Or what Jack17 is doing.

I like the TEI idea and thought behind it. That is the only reason I chose it. From what I read on this forums it made sense to me.

The good thing about TEI and cdsnuts is that you have something to hold on to. For a lot of us this is important. You go more by feeling which I am not good at. I would just do all types of random stuff that would fuck me up. Which I did before this.

Yeah, thats why its mostly used for weight loss purposes im sure. It was an experiment i did but i wouldn’t wanna do it forever. Eating meat all day sucks.

Eating meat all day is not ketogenic unless you are eating bacon. So maybe you had a different reason.

 

[Nina]

Yes you are right. I am not sure if this will cure me - it is still an experiment, I hope it does of course. But we are doing multiple things. Let's say this works then we can advice this to other people in the future. Or maybe what you are doing works better. Or what Jack17 is doing.

The good thing about TEI and cdsnuts is that you have something to hold on to. For a lot of us this is important. You go more by feeling which I am not good at. I would just do all types of random stuff that would fuck me up. Which I did before this.



Eating meat all day is not ketogenic unless you are eating bacon. So maybe you had a different reason.

Are you saying ground beef isn’t ketogenic? Then you are wrongly informed. Its like 80% fat. I ate burgers with 80%+ fat with cheese, bacon, eggs mostly. It was definitely ketogenic

 

[bruschi11]

Yes you are right. I am not sure if this will cure me - it is still an experiment, I hope it does of course. But we are doing multiple things. Let's say this works then we can advice this to other people in the future. Or maybe what you are doing works better. Or what Jack17 is doing.

I like the TEI idea and thought behind it. That is the only reason I chose it. From what I read on this forums it made sense to me.

The good thing about TEI and cdsnuts is that you have something to hold on to. For a lot of us this is important. You go more by feeling which I am not good at. I would just do all types of random stuff that would fuck me up. Which I did before this.



Eating meat all day is not ketogenic unless you are eating bacon. So maybe you had a different reason.

I think it’s curing you man.

What I was trying to say that there’s a portion of this community that it won’t unless other action is taken. Or they need to takes steps before or w/ NB.

NB is the best asset this community could’ve been given. And that girl Helen gave it to us. Huge! But we are a deranged group lol there’s more to it in some of us.

 

[Helen]

This is from Bluegrass 1st hair test where Helen asks him if they prescribed him copper plus and as copper is at its lowest they seems to substitute it with suppl even so Helen said ARL, TEI does not.

Heres link to the full graph

https://hackstasis.com/threads/my-h...-i-fast-or-slow.939/#lg=attachment549&slide=0

It might be the low copper alone, might be the highish free iron so the copper and b2 to work on that. It seems Helen doesnt want to engage in details, understandable to a degree since there are people around here trying to go to be nutritionists in real life, thats why i guess certain discussions arent going to happen cause lots of details could float up. @Helen

what are you even talking about. they don't substitute minerals from low or high on the hairtest. What is there to engage with you about?

I 'm not here to explain TEI and ARL system, they have that system not me.

They tested what they are doing, and they are not substituting minerals which are low on hairtest, they read it their own way.

You want to learn how TEI system works? this took them 40 years to do. and I am not the one to be asked about it.

I'm learning about their system the same as you

 

[brix]

Could be just that sky high Aluminum alone.

I have yet to see TEI administers copper plus to anyone with high copper or low Zn/Cu. It’s substitution.

 

[Nina]

I think it’s curing you man.

What I was trying to say that there’s a portion of this community that it won’t unless other action is taken. Or they need to takes steps before or w/ NB.

NB is the best asset this community could’ve been given. And that girl Helen gave it to us. Huge! But we are a deranged group lol there’s more to it in some of us.

Im pretty sure most people these days (including most people on the forum) need way more activity and way less food, sex, drugs/medications and alcohol. All around me everyone is obsessed with food, alcohol and sex. Very little exercise especially among women. Most guys go the gym at my age still.

However theres also people that do everything right and unfortunately still have issues like some people on the forum...

I think genetics must play a huge role in it as some people can live a fucked up lifestyle while still feeling great.

 

[bruschi11]

Im pretty sure most people these days (including most people on the forum) need way more activity and way less food, sex, drugs/medications and alcohol. All around me everyone is obsessed with food, alcohol and sex. Very little exercise especially among women. Most guys go the gym at my age still.

However theres also people that do everything right and unfortunately still have issues like some people on the forum...

I think genetics must play a huge role in it as some people can live a fucked up lifestyle while still feeling great.

You nailed it to a degree. I think #1 reasons are drugs/medications, alcohol/ substance abuse, and poor food quality. Most young people are relatively active as you state.

Its a slow decline. First a person grows up having taken 5-10 antibiotic runs growing up and the gut microbiome gets altered. Then as young adult gets hooked on Ritalin/Adderall during college studying couple times a week combined with weekend alcohol benders. That's person is chemically altered like 80-90% of the days. Then they hit their early-mid 20s a bit unbalanced with a bad microbiome. Pathogens eventually invade at some point causing more suffering and imbalances.

The person is all sorts of fucked up. Then you take a pharmaceutical like fin BOOM.... its like putting your body on the court against the Golden State Warriors in the NBA playoffs. Its not going to win that battle.

EDIT: for sports nerd purposes..... Giving Finasteride to person is like Kevin Durant joing Warriors to rest of NBA. Just making things completely unfair lol

 

[Nina]

You nailed it to a degree. I think #1 reasons are drugs/medications, alcohol/ substance abuse, and poor food quality. Most young people are relatively active as you state.

Its a slow decline. First a person grows up having taken 5-10 antibiotic runs growing up and the gut microbiome gets altered. Then as young adult gets hooked on Ritalin/Adderall during college studying couple times a week combined with weekend alcohol benders. That's person is chemically altered like 80-90% of the days. Then they hit their early-mid 20s a bit unbalanced with a bad microbiome. Pathogens eventually invade at some point causing more suffering and imbalances.

The person is all sorts of fucked up. Then you take a pharmaceutical like fin BOOM.... its like putting your body on the court against the Golden State Warriors in the NBA playoffs. Its not going to win that battle.

EDIT: for sports nerd purposes..... Giving Finasteride to person is like Kevin Durant joing Warriors to rest of NBA. Just making things completely unfair lol

Exactly. And you get further and further away from your balanced state the more you do all of these things.

 

[supernature]

what are you even talking about. they don't substitute minerals from low or high on the hairtest. What is there to engage with you about?

I 'm not here to explain TEI and ARL system, they have that system not me.

They tested what they are doing, and they are not substituting minerals which are low on hairtest, they read it their own way.

You want to learn how TEI system works? this took them 40 years to do. and I am not the one to be asked about it.

I'm learning about their system the same as you

Talking about mito dysfunction, a thing majority of us if not all have in different rate. I prefer biochemical topics like the one below compared to the pseudoscience of the nutritional balancing they invented even so the activity of the minerals is important and in combo with organic acids we already see plenty, we just need to put the pieces together.

 

[Helen]

Talking about mito dysfunction, a thing majority of us if not all have in different rate. I prefer biochemical topics like the one below compared to the pseudoscience of the nutritional balancing they invented even so the activity of the minerals is important and in combo with organic acids we already see plenty, we just need to put the pieces together.


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dude, you don't even understand that TEI understands this on 100 levels better, since they take into the account most of the enzymes at once.
I dont understand what is pseudoscience of nutritional balancing you are talking about.

they don;'t just look at hair and give some stupid minerals, they read hair and figure out the system, and try to balance it using enzymes,

they take into account relationship of thryoid with pancreas, adrenals and insulin system, etc all at once.

Is it a perfect system, probably not. but you figuring something out, which I posted above which you highlighted is out of context stuff for some individual

the real systems take into account all interactions.


Discussing biochemistry is ok, but biochemistry needs to be learnt first and tested. Most people online just bs about it.


People call tei pseudoscience from ignorance, it is basically very high level biochemistry. 40 years ahead of its time.

when internet still talks about single minerals, mineral this, interaction this, interaction that. TEI has it all figured it out. and systemized. All those interactions. All PH, all enzymatic reactions.

Did they do any mistakes , may be they did, I am sure,

but the whole approach is amazing IMO.

I like that systematized approach.

Different people have different problems, and some people try to figure out one little imbalance for 10 ,5 years, sometimes, taking supplements following the diets etc

TEI is not explaning what they are doing. but what I posted about magnesium they know better than me, I am sure,

Of course I could be wrong about their approach and think of their approach as too advanced when it is not. But by studying their system more and more I understand more and more of it. and what they are doing.

I do have my own ideas also about it and I test them on me a lot. But it is hard to make something work long term without the systematic approach.

 

[supernature]

You nailed it to a degree. I think #1 reasons are drugs/medications, alcohol/ substance abuse, and poor food quality. Most young people are relatively active as you state.

Its a slow decline. First a person grows up having taken 5-10 antibiotic runs growing up and the gut microbiome gets altered. Then as young adult gets hooked on Ritalin/Adderall during college studying couple times a week combined with weekend alcohol benders. That's person is chemically altered like 80-90% of the days. Then they hit their early-mid 20s a bit unbalanced with a bad microbiome. Pathogens eventually invade at some point causing more suffering and imbalances.

The person is all sorts of fucked up. Then you take a pharmaceutical like fin BOOM.... its like putting your body on the court against the Golden State Warriors in the NBA playoffs. Its not going to win that battle.

EDIT: for sports nerd purposes..... Giving Finasteride to person is like Kevin Durant joing Warriors to rest of NBA. Just making things completely unfair lol

Nothing comes out of nowhere and with no reason, always there is some reason. Regarding the use of drugs, medications, alcohols, this is strictly abusing society thats what its is in its core.

 

[Helen]

@supernature TEI and NB science is good for people who know nothing, people who wonder around, always want to deny systems, and look for their own understanding,
and it is good. But most of it is biased since not tested.

Discussion of biochemistry on forums is an utopia. I think. People all have different level of understanding of things. People need to just try things themselves.

This is why if not TEI, I like chelation and rebuilding with ocean.

Since nothing will work long term without a backtested system. I think it is better not to take anything at all.

I hope I can come up with an easier approach, I am working on it.
but the more I learn the more I understand how advanced is TEI approach.

I think one major flaw is people don't follow rec'd diet exactly. since that is amino acids balance

I think amino acid balance is very important.

 

[supernature]

dude, you don't even understand that TEI understands this on 100 levels better, since they take into the account most of the enzymes at once.
I dont understand what is pseudoscience of nutritional balancing you are talking about.

they don;'t just look at hair and give some stupid minerals, they read hair and figure out the system, and try to balance it using enzymes,

they take into account relationship of thryoid with pancreas, adrenals and insulin system, etc all at once.

Is it a perfect system, probably not. but you figuring something out, which I posted above which you highlighted is out of context stuff for some individual

the real systems take into account all interactions.


Discussing biochemistry is ok, but biochemistry needs to be learnt first and tested. Most people online just bs about it.

What you say about the ARL, TEI approach is not widely known, you have said this before here ive read it, but while might be taking into account all the enzymes at once this requires pouring powders every day in my body which so far as i see its not happening, plus working all enzymes at once you cant figure out what affects what and on that im more keen to try just partials of their approach and with least suppl to get as much results. With the quote i cited you as an ex of whats good to be read.

 

[supernature]

@supernature TEI and NB science is good for people who know nothing, people who wonder around, always want to deny systems, and look for their own understanding,
and it is good. But most of it is biased since not tested.

Problem, we know more than just to wonder around, but not enough to simply go on full manual mode, problem