health

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None of angiologists/urologists I went to have seen any change in tissue - and I have pretty bad reduction in size and erection quality.

Try to not obsess about it.
 

raven

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Try not to get too discouraged; there are plenty of PFS cases where shrinkage has been reversed, so it's definitely possible, though it would take some time. As you probably know, I've had some issues in that department as well. Just out of curiosity, what do you hope to gain from a urologist appointment? I hadn't considered going to one because I figure best case scenario they don't see anything so can't do anything about it, worst case they see something but still can't do anything about it.

Can't really argue with that logic, it's just the uncertainty that's frustrating, seeing a professional who knows their stuff can be reassuring, but I've heard nothing but bad experiences when it comes to urologists and issues like ours so you're probably right.
 

Pedro melo

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None of angiologists/urologists I went to have seen any change in tissue - and I have pretty bad reduction in size and erection quality.

Try to not obsess about it.
How did you or how are you dealing with that? Or treating the whole body will treat that particular thing? Coz its something I really am afraid its permanent... And fucking doctors never see anything at all in the exams. I'm a full healthy man lol
 

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-reversed near all shrinkage... barely thought about it once I realized I need to fast (or else). Later sure... but it works usually mostly. Reversed all linear shrinkage.
-However, no mood stabilizer (like 89d last yr) no fin like 124 days last year, and no crash like till Jan 6 this year (2018)... Hyper Libido bad. I relapsed nofap and also sex addn last yr during crash - it was not smart and was painful... and kinda hate myself a little for it.
-Anyways, shrinkage can reverse and function return.
-Some want me to get DOPPLER -- look I can't even make tests I need to write on time like (the last 15 yrs... probably only before that bc attendance was mandatory or someone drove me). Work, weddings, etc too... pretty late usually or barely late. ---> I wouldn't even think about this most of last yr, and certainly not after fasting; when I have faith TEI or anivar will take me the rest of the way (maybe minus 1%... maybe not... who knows, but I am strongly confident that it will). --Scanning this and that...
-I barely got scans when I broke part of my foot, didn't for hand in fights, didn't in back, nor car accidents, nor blackouts, nor the MRI's I wanted after Effexor and blackouts/ "brain damage" (It was ADHD, MANIA, and Blackouts really ---longterm memory problems since i was a little kid, clearly not "drug induced brain damage).
-Don't worry about every symptom. I know it's not a "small matter", however --- overall health: digestion, brain health, mental health, physical health, the gym, sports, your friends, work, school, or whatever is more important.
-Literally ignoring as many symptoms as I can was helpful. (easier said than done, and I need to work on ignoring info w.r.t. other things in life -- much like I tried to for most sx).
 

diffi

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-reversed near all shrinkage... barely thought about it once I realized I need to fast (or else). Later sure... but it works usually mostly. Reversed all linear shrinkage.
-However, no mood stabilizer (like 89d last yr) no fin like 124 days last year, and no crash like till Jan 6 this year (2018)... Hyper Libido bad. I relapsed nofap and also sex addn last yr during crash - it was not smart and was painful... and kinda hate myself a little for it.
-Anyways, shrinkage can reverse and function return.
-Some want me to get DOPPLER -- look I can't even make tests I need to write on time like (the last 15 yrs... probably only before that bc attendance was mandatory or someone drove me). Work, weddings, etc too... pretty late usually or barely late. ---> I wouldn't even think about this most of last yr, and certainly not after fasting; when I have faith TEI or anivar will take me the rest of the way (maybe minus 1%... maybe not... who knows, but I am strongly confident that it will). --Scanning this and that...
-I barely got scans when I broke part of my foot, didn't for hand in fights, didn't in back, nor car accidents, nor blackouts, nor the MRI's I wanted after Effexor and blackouts/ "brain damage" (It was ADHD, MANIA, and Blackouts really ---longterm memory problems since i was a little kid, clearly not "drug induced brain damage).
-Don't worry about every symptom. I know it's not a "small matter", however --- overall health: digestion, brain health, mental health, physical health, the gym, sports, your friends, work, school, or whatever is more important.
-Literally ignoring as many symptoms as I can was helpful. (easier said than done, and I need to work on ignoring info w.r.t. other things in life -- much like I tried to for most sx).

Hi, how bad was your shrinkage? Did your man downstairs felt rubbish?
Am not talking about the usual shrinkage in length.

What exactely helped reversing your issue? Long water fast? How long? Thx for a hint
 

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--Pretty bad, but ... I had other things going on like -- surgery, BPII, money stuff, crashing, suicidality eventually, and labotomy effects.
-It was bad, but I have an addictive personality for sure (kind of a stupid term, but still). ---Pretty bad. -- like 1.75inches or so shrinkage., mostly recovered; hardness could be better.And also sensation, probably temperature sensation and pressure sensitivity. --Maybe there's slight fibrosis, but I'm barely concerned. There's some non sexual sfx I care more about. ---worst case, I'd use a pump, cialis, etc... and I'd be pretty much fine... Water Fast and Randro and 4andro and ru and ella were best...

--for reversing shrinkage it was a combo of things (that may be RU486 or ella, then Randro and 4andro (in my case for low estrogen reason), and then: working out like crazy and eating extremely well (like 72% of days worked out and ate well like 90% of days). -Also electrolytes all year. Now on TEI tho -- so no electrolytes outside of that. --I couldn't workout till well into march as I fasted and refed;.. but still a ton of times. 3 and then 4 second week then 5-7d a week v often 6 or 7.

-I did get a cialis script however, used like 6 or 7 of 30 pills or something only. Got it March 10th or so. 1.25-2.5mg. Max I took was 7.5mg. --TEI soon. Lots done/img.

@diffi see attached. It's on 2 logs basically, new one shorter; mostly not even my posts (i edit tho a lot0.
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I've had consistent hard erections ever since I started this gut protocol. Unfortunately for 9 months before that I wasn't getting solid erections, and I think that's resulted in erectile tissue wastage or something, because my shrinkage is bad. Going to see a urologist for scans because it's really getting me down. One thing after another

Dudeeee you’re just at the beginning. You need time and patience here.

You can’t expect everything to come back after years of badness. I look back at last September , October 2017 when I think of myself in terms of your current issues.

Yea I was getting erections again but definitely smaller. If you keep working on your health, go from one thing to the next.

Sensitivity and libido how are these? Night erections are really just the first step in recovering from this stuff.
 

diffi

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--Pretty bad, but ... I had other things going on like -- surgery, BPII, money stuff, crashing, suicidality eventually, and labotomy effects.
-It was bad, but I have an addictive personality for sure (kind of a stupid term, but still). ---Pretty bad. -- like 1.75inches or so shrinkage., mostly recovered; hardness could be better.And also sensation, probably temperature sensation and pressure sensitivity. --Maybe there's slight fibrosis, but I'm barely concerned. There's some non sexual sfx I care more about. ---worst case, I'd use a pump, cialis, etc... and I'd be pretty much fine... Water Fast and Randro and 4andro and ru and ella were best...

--for reversing shrinkage it was a combo of things (that may be RU486 or ella, then Randro and 4andro (in my case for low estrogen reason), and then: working out like crazy and eating extremely well (like 72% of days worked out and ate well like 90% of days). -Also electrolytes all year. Now on TEI tho -- so no electrolytes outside of that. --I couldn't workout till well into march as I fasted and refed;.. but still a ton of times. 3 and then 4 second week then 5-7d a week v often 6 or 7.

-I did get a cialis script however, used like 6 or 7 of 30 pills or something only. Got it March 10th or so. 1.25-2.5mg. Max I took was 7.5mg. --TEI soon. Lots done/img.

@diffi see attached. It's on 2 logs basically, new one shorter; mostly not even my posts (i edit tho a lot0.
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THX for the moment. Checking also Ravens gut protocol. Interesting.
 

health

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How did you or how are you dealing with that? Or treating the whole body will treat that particular thing? Coz its something I really am afraid its permanent... And fucking doctors never see anything at all in the exams. I'm a full healthy man lol

Well... One of things I've implemented is that if I feel need to wallow in self pity, then I designate a time to it. Don't let your life change into frameless hell.
 

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What is your protocol again raven ? couldn't find it, was it black walnut, oregano, olive, garlic?
I also always did good on Chi/IHP's combo of Black walnut, wormwood, clove
 

raven

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What is your protocol again raven ? couldn't find it, was it black walnut, oregano, olive, garlic?
I also always did good on Chi/IHP's combo of Black walnut, wormwood, clove


there are two main treatment agents:

Proprietary Blend of:
Wormwood Extract, Black Walnut Extract, Undecylenic Acid, Caprylic Acid, Barberry Extract, Garlic Extract, Uva Ursi Extract, Cats Claw Extract, Pau D'arco Extract, Goldenseal Extract, Oregano Extract, Oregon Grape Extract, Chinese Goldthread Extract, Yerba Mansa Extract.

Then a Proprietary Enzyme Blend:
Glucoamylase, Chitosanase, Ceullulase, Hemicellulase, Beta Glucanase, Protease Complex, Lysozyme, Serratia peptidase, EDTA.

I also take a strong prebiotic and probiotic.


The first one is a general anti parasitic formula, I think the Enzyme Blend is to break down the cysts that grow on the colon when it comes to E Histolytica in particular. So if you benefit from Black Walnut and Wormwood maybe you have some type of parasite? Not necessarily the one I have though. Might be worth taking a general supplement like mine then.
 

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@talkingant I'm doing this through a nutritionist so for now I'm just putting faith in her programme. The first blend is full of well known anti parasitic substances., e.g. Garlic and Olive have been used to deal with parasites for a long time. The second blend I'm not too sure what it's exact function is but I believe it's to break down the cysts that appear on the colon wall with E Histolytica infection.
 

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Brain fog has come back a bit after I fixed my sleeping pattern, maybe changing the sleep routine messed with my gut a bit? I've always had a completely screwed up sleep pattern so I imagine it will take a while for my body to get used to the new world order
 

raven

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Brain fog completely gone again as I've adjusted to the new pattern.

Also noticing very strong hard erections, but still with size reduction and various pains around that region, so I can't really enjoy them.

Tip for anyone - use lube, I strongly suspect my physical changes were caused by applying too much pressure during semi-erect masturbation mainly due to low sensitivity and an inability to get fully erect in the past. Now I'm using lube and am forced to adapt to much less pressure.

Also cheers @Niles, spent a week jogging and my knees are already 100% again
 

raven

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Got to say I haven't been so rosy the past 10 days, leaning towards taking antibiotics for the parasite if things don't improve soon
 

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Got to say I haven't been so rosy the past 10 days, leaning towards taking antibiotics for the parasite if things don't improve soon

Have you actually had a positive result for specific parasites? Or has the diagnosis been based on symptoms?
 

raven

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Have you actually had a positive result for specific parasites? Or has the diagnosis been based on symptoms?

Yeah I had a positive result for E Histolytica in a stool test a couple months ago. I just sent off another sample via my GP, so will get a second result in two weeks
 

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Yeah I had a positive result for E Histolytica in a stool test a couple months ago. I just sent off another sample via my GP, so will get a second result in two weeks
Did you ever experience any die-off symptoms?
 

raven

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Did you ever experience any die-off symptoms?

I'm not really sure, looser stools and slight pain in lower gut while taking all the supplements, but that may not be die off symptoms