Interesting mate! Which one do you think is having a greater effect on you?I definitely had a new all time high while on my prog ru cycle, that I still haven't reached since.
I think I would have had more of it stick if I would have done low dose ru instead of 50mgs. I think 5 mg would be better so only prog is blocked.
Interesting mate! Which one do you think is having a greater effect on you?
@Goose12 are you still running r andro as well?
Still feeling pretty good today. I'm trying not to overstate the benefit from this protocol but I'd say I'm 80-90% better. I started progesterone yesterday at 5 mg and planning today at 2.5mg. I've been feeling good for two solid weeks now. No significant drop off except last weekend there was a slight drop but better by Monday. 3 or so weeks ago I'd say I was like 30-40% of normal.I'm going to drop prog tomorrow. It will have been 10 days overall- 7 of which post RU at 5-10mg.
I will be taking 4 days off and then moving to 1 drop daily so it will be around 1.8mg I believe.
Hi...How much RU are/have you been taking? How often do you do that? Can I ask why you stopped progesterone and started Androhard/ randro? I did three days of Ella and then started Randro beginning of February. I had tried Randro before with some benefit but typically only would feel positive results for a couple days. After Ella, totally felt great for like several days but then it faded away. My point is that for me the progesterone cycle (so far) we are doing seems much more beneficial.I am on androhard from Muscle Gelz right now. I waited almost 3 weeks after my ru and prog cycle and jumped androhard, it's r andro and epi andro.
On my first cycle of r andro I added androhard half way through. All together I ran it for 4 weeks. On my first cycle I had increased vascularity, harder erections, incteased ejaculate, extreme hunger, and terrible fatigue. I didn't notice any increase in labido like I was hoping. On the snap back erection quality and ejaculate were slightly improved, and pfs anxiety decreased by 70 or 80%. I started to feel like a normal person.
This cycle is stronger. I am feeling alpha all the time and the start of some solid labido, and it's been less than a week. It took almost two weeks to feel anything on my first cycle.
Hi...How much RU are/have you been taking? How often do you do that? Can I ask why you stopped progesterone and started Androhard/ randro? I did three days of Ella and then started Randro beginning of February. I had tried Randro before with some benefit but typically only would feel positive results for a couple days. After Ella, totally felt great for like several days but then it faded away. My point is that for me the progesterone cycle (so far) we are doing seems much more beneficial.
I have ran an ru cycle once a month since October. I have done 5 cycles including my last one with prog in February. My first cycle was 50mgs for 3 days, second was 25mgs for 3 days, third was 5mgs for 4 days, 4th was 50mgs for 3 days, and fith was 50mgs for 3 days while taking prog for 6. I also tried a 1 day of 100mgs of ru and didn't notice anything and jumped on ella for 5 days at 6mgs sometime between ru cycles.
I would like to run ru again ( I have 50mgs left) with prog but I feel like I need a break from ru, and I am enjoying my snap from ru of a fast metabolism and no cfs.
I wanted to run randro again to try an hit this pfs from another angle. My experience so far has been this is like a puzzle and we need to work on this in many different ways. I also had a good experience from my the snap back from my first cycle and I am curious how I will react to this one. While on my first cycle things weren't that great but the snap back was beneficial.
If I run prog and gain I think I will do it similar to you with 10 to 14 days at 5mgs of prog and 5mgs for 3 days of RU on my off days of prog or my last 3 days of prog.
I was just reviewing my notes, as this gets complicated but I did RU 10mg for three days end for Feb and I actually started (forgot) Randro four days later. I took it for 2 days and didn't notice anything, as I really noticed an effect( but only lasted couple days) after Ella. Anyway, that is when I joined this board. I noticed guys were using Progesterone after RU and I thought that made a lot of sense. I started progesterone 7 days after stopping RU. I stopped the Randro (only took it for two days.) To be honest for me Randro makes you feel a little better but sexual side effects only would improve for maybe one to two days then fad, if at all. Two days after starting progesterone I really noticed a huge improvement. So for the past 2 solid weeks I've been feeling really good. Totally good libido, morning wood normal, good mood and normal thinking. I thought I might add RU during the four day off period but I waited and had a good snap back and then restarted progesterone at a lower dose two days ago. I'd really like more guys to consider following this protocol. I think it's made a huge difference and I don't really see any other protocols that have made such a dramatic improvement, IMO.
That's great you have seen such dramatic improvements. What do you recommend for dosages and timing for prog ru cyclem
When I first tried ru I had really good inprovements in all areas and honestly it was like r andro times 3 and in a much shorter time but improvements were less and less each time. Add in prog to it helped but and lot of it didn't stick and lots improvements think it was because I took to much ru.
For randro to lead to any improvements you have to be on it for 4 to 6 weeks. The reason is to keep 5 alpha inhibited with randro andro while 5 beta is up regulated. It's one of the reasons why prog works because it's a strong 5 alpha reductase inhibitor.
It usually takes a week or two for randro andro andro to really kick in even for people with out pfs. Everybody is different but most of the forums I have read with people cycling andro it takes while to feel it. When I first took it I noticed some improvements in the first couple of 5ays alpha another wave of improvements after a week and another after 3 weeks.