RU Trials continued

[TubZy]

we are still trying this out. no one knows how these substances act exactly. We know what we want from them.

Basically RU effects progesterone same as ulipristal, but ru blocks cortisol which increases dopamine to adrenaline conversions, I guess. in some caser this will cause prolactin to rise.

We need to figure out, if Ella will work on its own and cortisol upgregulation wont be needed
I am not sure about that.

All we know that Ihatefin took this for 3 days and then went off, and started to get improvements that lasted further same as this other guy who took Ella.

So I think may be RU blocks cortisol so much that it wont release it for while. And this causes too much adrenaline converions and causes prolactin to rise,

In this case I would assume it will take time and it will snap back.

The cortisol part you mentioned it exactly what I was thinking. My cortisol doesn't feel like it is turned on yet because I still have adrenaline like sides just like while I was taking RU.

What the adrenalines sides make you feel like, I don't get, how do yyou recognize it?

Because the feeling is identical to after taking RU. When you take RU pill like half hour to hour later sometimes you get an adrenaline rush especially when you take it on empty stomach. RU blocks cortisol so adrenaline has to take over and it will be high. You never had an adrenaline response or rush before?

 

[Snell1234]

The cortisol part you mentioned it exactly what I was thinking. My cortisol doesn't feel like it is turned on yet because I still have adrenaline like sides just like while I was taking RU.

What the adrenalines sides make you feel like, I don't get, how do yyou recognize it?

Because the feeling is identical to after taking RU. When you take RU pill like half hour to hour later sometimes you get an adrenaline rush especially when you take it on empty stomach. RU blocks cortisol so adrenaline has to take over and it will be high. You never had an adrenaline response or rush before?

How would you compare the blocking of cortisol with ru to the blocking of cortisol with super r andro? Did you get the same effects with super r andro?

 

[TubZy]

Oh and I forgot the most common effect we all had which is you feel super cold because adrenaline causes vasoconstriction

 

[TubZy]

What the adrenalines sides make you feel like, I don't get, how do yyou recognize it?

Because the feeling is identical to after taking RU. When you take RU pill like half hour to hour later sometimes you get an adrenaline rush especially when you take it on empty stomach. RU blocks cortisol so adrenaline has to take over and it will be high. You never had an adrenaline response or rush before?

How would you compare the blocking of cortisol with ru to the blocking of cortisol with super r andro? Did you get the same effects with super r andro?

No totally different, R Andro is stimulating while RU there isn't really much of an effect you just feel more normal again besides the occasional adrenaline response.

 

[Snell1234]

Oh and I forgot the most common effect we all had which is you feel super cold because adrenaline causes vasoconstriction

Did you get these adrenaline effects when you did your super r andro cycle? Or was it a different type of feeling to that?

 

[TubZy]

Oh and I forgot the most common effect we all had which is you feel super cold because adrenaline causes vasoconstriction

Did you get these adrenaline effects when you did your super r andro cycle? Or was it a different type of feeling to that?

No, R Andro is a drug type feeling. You also feel better mood wise but it feels more artificial since androsterone acts as a GABA agonist too.

RU doesn't feel like anything hence why majority of the time after taking people report they feel absolutely nothing, but then you just start to feel better all day long and your mood gets back to normal etc.

 

[Snell1234]

Oh and I forgot the most common effect we all had which is you feel super cold because adrenaline causes vasoconstriction

Did you get these adrenaline effects when you did your super r andro cycle? Or was it a different type of feeling to that?

No, R Andro is a drug type feeling. You also feel better mood wise but it feels more articifial since androsterone acts as a GABA agonist too.

RU doesn't feel like anything hence why majority of the time after taking people report they feel absolutely nothing, but then you just start to feel better all day long and your mood gets back to normal etc.

I'll definitely be giving it a go then. Thanks guys for trialling this. Hopefully you guys can crack the dosage and what you need to take after and you can be the first round of guys cured.

 

[Helen]

Ella does not touch cortisol but it worked. could be a choice also.

I would wait for guys to finish their Ru cycles before new people trying it.

 

[Snell1234]

Ella does not touch cortisol but it worked. could be a choice also.

I would wait for guys to finish their Ru cycles before new people trying it.

I guess the good thing about Ella is we can get it from the local chemist without a prescription

 

[Helen]

Yeah. Ella is the same as mifepriston

 

[aztec]

Yeah. Ella is the same as mifepriston

Gbolduev, when do you think the ru 486 cycles will be completed? The guys have been off for over 4 days. How long do you suspect the snap back period will take?

 

[Helen]

weeks. I would assume

 

[IHateFin]

I am curious if a 3 day ru 486 cycle at 50 mg per day is the best idea? Let’s keep this thread going guys.

i did a 3 day cycle and it was very beneficial! it actually went way better than my 2nd cycle lol

 

[aztec]

Good to know Gbolduev. Ihatefin, I know your 3 day cycle was excellent. It would have been awesome to see the progress of that first cycle.

 

[namaste]

I'm a little hesitant to draw any conclusions from the Ella trial on the PSSD forum. The guy had been taking quite a few other supplements around the same time. Tubzy tried Ella for a bit before he purchased RU and it didn't really do anything for him.

I'd say it's definitely worth experimenting with though.

 

[wuf]

I'm a little hesitant to draw any conclusions from the Ella trial on the PSSD forum. The guy had been taking quite a few other supplements around the same time. Tubzy tried Ella for a bit before he purchased RU and it didn't really do anything for him.

I'd say it's definitely worth experimenting with though.

wich supplements are you talking about?
I didnt read anything about it..

 

[aarfai]

Just thinking out loud but wouldn't a dose that blocks cortisol but doesn't raise adrenaline too much be optimal? Maybe even doses of <25 mg per day?

 

[aztec]

I'm a little hesitant to draw any conclusions from the Ella trial on the PSSD forum. The guy had been taking quite a few other supplements around the same time. Tubzy tried Ella for a bit before he purchased RU and it didn't really do anything for him.

I'd say it's definitely worth experimenting with though.

wich supplements are you talking about?
I didnt read anything about it..

From shadowman regarding trondanac’s Ella cycle: “A detail to consider, he used 18g of Inositol for a week before Ella. Maybe it played a role! Its so frustrating lacking the knowledge to investigate further.”

 

[Shadow]

I'm a little hesitant to draw any conclusions from the Ella trial on the PSSD forum. The guy had been taking quite a few other supplements around the same time. Tubzy tried Ella for a bit before he purchased RU and it didn't really do anything for him.

I'd say it's definitely worth experimenting with though.

wich supplements are you talking about?
I didnt read anything about it..

He took 18g of Inositol for a week before using Ella.

 

[IHateFin]

Ihate FIN. I remember last time you took RU, you were constantly improving after you got off.

How long have you guys been off of this thing now?

The guy who took Ella, did not seem to experience bad sides at all. May be dosages are important here

We never tested RU. SO we are going by your previous snap back and improvements. May be it was the cofactors that worked well last time


Another thing I am thinking about. May be cortisol is getting too high and this was a difference between your first cycle and this one. In previous one it was only progesterone mostly that got effected and in this one cortisol was effected more.

May be that is why the guy on Ella did not experience any of these sides. Since Ella did not touch his cortisol.

I don't like this difference of your first trial and this one.

Yeah on my first trial I did a lot of things "wrong" in the sense that I took 5adhp so ru always had a progestin to compete with and I took all cofactors as well as metergoline for a few days right after day 3.

Heck maybe a few days of merely 10mg or ru is the way to go who knows haha luckily I have 50mg left so this is something I can test after a few weeks.

It almost seems maybe I did everything right on my first cycle on accident? Who knows haha