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@Niles here you go from CNN 2013, your perfect news source https://www.cnn.com/2013/10/26/us/immigration-parents-deported-children-left-behind/index.html

Are you mad at Obama too lol? Separation of families have been going on for a long time and not a peep from the liberals then. I'm not really pro families being separated to begin with, I just don't like the hypocrisy of the left
Dude, I'm not trying to make this a partisan argument lol. Obama made some bad decisions regarding immigration too - never said he didn't - but in this case family separations were not an "Obama" thing. There were cases of it happening during the Obama administration, but at vastly lower rates because the Obama administration did not instate a policy requiring that immigrant parents be detained separate from their children. Trump did, and that's the difference. And I never understood the "it's on the parents" argument - of course parents understand that coming into another country with their children is a risk, but many take that risk because the risk of poverty and/or violence at home is greater. Why does that make it okay for the government to take their kids away from them with no plan to reunite them? Where is the logic there?

And why would CNN be my perfect news source? CNN is sensationalist garbage.
 

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Dude, I'm not trying to make this a partisan argument lol. Obama made some bad decisions regarding immigration too - never said he didn't - but in this case family separations were not an "Obama" thing. There were cases of it happening during the Obama administration, but at vastly lower rates because the Obama administration did not instate a policy requiring that immigrant parents be detained separate from their children. Trump did, and that's the difference. And I never understood the "it's on the parents" argument - of course parents understand that coming into another country with their children is a risk, but many take that risk because the risk of poverty and/or violence at home is greater. Why does that make it okay for the government to take their kids away from them with no plan to reunite them? Where is the logic there?

And why would CNN be my perfect news source? CNN is sensationalist garbage.

I know lol, I'm an independent anyways. To be honest, I picked CNN because the three topics you spoke about are the ones mostly spewed by them (Russia collusion, family separation and trade or relationships in general with other countries) so I assumed you were a fan of them.

I can respect that you are at least aware that this has been happening under other administrations as many people are not. But where do you draw the line though, I mean if everyone from Mexico just walked over here illegally, where do you draw the line of who gets in and who doesn't? I'm not for family separation unless absolutely required, but there are cases where there is definitely child/human trafficking and separating the families can help sort that issue out easier. I mean what if a kid is literally walking across the border with a cartel member labelled as his "dad", then what?
 

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@Boris

Illegal immigration is illegal because it is necessary to protect domestic institutions, not because it's morally wrong. I would certainly cross a border if it gave my family a significantly better quality of life. Illegal immigrants should be turned away, but treated with respect and not blamed for the huge sacrifices they are prepared to make for themselves and for their families. No one is saying that cartel members and their kids shouldn't be separated. But the kids should be treated well in that situation.
 

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If there was no ICE, no Immigration System, and all Families who were "separated" were 'Given a Free-Pass, into Our Country - the supposed EMPATHY used in such brainless Lenience would quickly be Overshadowed by Swarms of MS-13 intent on Violence & Causing Widespread Civil UnRest. WE DONT WANT the USA to become another El Salvador.
 
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@Boris

Illegal immigration is illegal because it is necessary to protect domestic institutions, not because it's morally wrong. I would certainly cross a border if it gave my family a significantly better quality of life. Illegal immigrants should be turned away, but treated with respect and not blamed for the huge sacrifices they are prepared to make for themselves and for their families. No one is saying that cartel members and their kids shouldn't be separated. But the kids should be treated well in that situation.

Agreed, but do you know what happens if I crossed into Mexico illegally by accident and got caught? Much much worse, prison time and everything.

Never said the kids shouldn't be treated well, I'm just saying some of the logic behind family separation is due to child trafficking. It's the same situation in a domestic dispute, law enforcement arrives, then the parties get separated and questioned individually. Of course majority of them are not child traffickers I'm sure, but it still does happen pretty often.

What strategy would you suggest then to screen illegal immigrants that come from an area where gang violence and cartels are largely from to prevent say something like human trafficking?
 

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If there was no ICE, no Immigration System, and all Families who were "separated" were 'Given a Free-Pass, into Our Country - the supposed EMPATHY used in such brainless Lenience would quickly be Overshadowed by Swarms of MS-13 intent on Violence & Causing Widespread Civil Rest. WE DONT WANT the USA to become another El Salvador.

I know you can speak to that since you are from LI, which is a heavily populated MS 13 area
 

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If there was no ICE, no Immigration System, and all Families who were "separated" were 'Given a Free-Pass, into Our Country - the supposed EMPATHY used in such brainless Lenience would quickly be Overshadowed by Swarms of MS-13 intent on Violence & Causing Widespread Civil Rest. WE DONT WANT the USA to become another El Salvador.
I don't think anyone is suggesting we dissolve immigration systems and let people walk into our country, just don't indiscriminately separate kids from their parents for chrissakes. But you should probably fortify your bunker against MS-13 just in case.
 

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He’s a piece of shit. Nothing to like about him. Are y’all for real?
yeah you would rather vote for a psycopath war monger also know as hillary clinton. Tell me buddy what exactly is your problem with him. why is he a piece of shit. arguments please.
 

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Niles. c'mon man, Trump is a bancrupt actor. He has no say. The whole theater is played by DOW 30 owners. So for those it was the time to implement all these steps that you are talking about.

Be it Hillary or any other president, the steps would be the same.

there were no elections man. you guys should stop this nonsene about Russia. Russia become the US in 1998. when it defaulted, There is no free Russia for 20 years already. Putin is dead in 2006.

It is all big huge lies . You dont have democracy in the US, you are getting ripped off. They suck juice out of all people everywhere.

All the presidents and their owners just milk people.



It is all a big circus. And IMO it all comes to fact WHO you want to see on TV, Hillary or Trump.

Honestly I would rather watch Trump than Hillary on TV.


It is weird that people constantly blame stupid presidents. Blame their masters.
respect, finally something we agree on. your not a dummy after all then ;)
 
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But what specifically is he fucking up on? He just settled a trade agreement with Mexico and Canada this week, cutting the trade deficit by millions especially the US dairy industry when prior to that all the liberals were crying that we were basically at war with Mexico and Canada lol. He is just a tough negotiator that is all, no foreign country is just going to give in on trade so trump just pushes the boundaries until they do i.e. tariffs etc. EU and China are next but his methods are working so far which you just saw this week with the USCMA. Even if you say his improvements are small or neutral, he definitely isn't "hurting" us. I mean just look at the stats from unemployment to the stock market.

The separation of family at the borders was already in place prior to Trump. This has been going on throughout previous administration in the past and no one cared. All Trump did was enforce it more, which if you knew about the campaign he ran on, immigration was a key component. So to blame that on Trump only does not make sense. To be honest, why would you bring your kids to another country illegally and expect to walk right in freely, seems more on the parents to me.

The thing I don't get about the Russia issue is that no matter what he does liberals are never happy. OK, so he tries to be friends with Russia and not escalate things even more, liberals say he isn't doing anything or not enough. Then if he gets real tough with Putin, then they cry "omg he going to start world war 3". So no matter what he does they will never be happy in this situation. You saw this exact situation with North Korea when Trump was threatening Kim big time and then liberals were all saying he was going to start WW3, then he meets with Kim to defuse the situation and liberals are mad that he met with Kim LOL.
Americans are all fucked up in the head, some stay sane though but I don't think they realise how weird they look in this protest clips i watched to people not from America; I don't know if it's the fluoride in the water but americans are insane
 

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Agreed, but do you know what happens if I crossed into Mexico illegally by accident and got caught? Much much worse, prison time and everything.

Never said the kids shouldn't be treated well, I'm just saying some of the logic behind family separation is due to child trafficking. It's the same situation in a domestic dispute, law enforcement arrives, then the parties get separated and questioned individually. Of course majority of them are not child traffickers I'm sure, but it still does happen pretty often.

What strategy would you suggest then to screen illegal immigrants that come from an area where gang violence and cartels are largely from to prevent say something like human trafficking?

Shouldn't compare to nations that are worse than you at something, that's historically how the great nations get complacent and stagnate. People criticise the US policy and not Mexico's cause the US is the most powerful country on Earth, the world leader and we hold you guys to a high standard

If a group is suspected of child trafficking the children should be taken somewhere and treated well with access to support, everything should be well documented to ensure speedy reunion with the parents. The real outrage here was the fact that the kids were in many cases put in what were essentially cages, and that there was no plan to reunite them. None of the anti child trafficking institutions recommend wide scale family separation to combat it.
 

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You’re calling someone a “dummy” and can’t spell or construct a sentence. Aren’t you like 18?
1. alright talk to me in dutch then without google translate and spelling errors. I'm not native english yet I speak 3 languages fluently, how many do you?
2. I said He wasn't a dummy and I was just joking you obviously took it out of context.
3. yes i'm 18 you got that right, so what? what does that matter?
4. you obviously got some health issues to sort out first, then get back at me
 

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You’re calling someone a “dummy” and can’t spell or construct a sentence. Aren’t you like 18?
What the hell does Age have to do with anything? This shits mad retarded bruh. I've been experimenting with various substances since 14, I'm 29 now and still alive and growing Stronger by the Day! @Stud would probably kick yer' Ass!
 

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What the hell does Age have to do with anything? This shits mad retarded bruh. I've been experimenting with various substances since 14, I'm 29 now and still alive and growing Stronger by the Day! @Stud would probably kick yer' Ass!
haha I love you bro #nohomothough and yeah of course I would kick this little weasels ass. little rat
 

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LOL , 2 homos on DHT gel came to the forum with sick people and now threaten to beat up people with PFS. Pathetic


I bet you anything Brix will make you bitch slap each other with your dicks until you pass out .