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Admiral

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Yes, I get near suicidal at times.
 

TubZy

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Yes, I get near suicidal at times.

Did u ever try sitting in the sauna for like 30 minutes while on ARL? ARL made me feel like shit a lot esepcially in the beginnig but when it did i would just force myself to the gym and hit the sauna after and i would feel much better immediately after sauna
 

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Can vouch for the immediate effect of the combo Gym>Sauna . I'd add cold shower too; Gym>cold shower>sauna>cold shower>sauna.. Effects were even more noticeable when I was feeling down that particular day
 

Admiral

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Did u ever try sitting in the sauna for like 30 minutes while on ARL? ARL made me feel like shit a lot esepcially in the beginnig but when it did i would just force myself to the gym and hit the sauna after and i would feel much better immediately after sauna

Yes I had some infrared sauna times. Sports help me better. Just doing a little weight lifting of cardio helps alot.
 

RebelWithACause

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Update on the TEI train.

Have good moments on it but overall tired. Sometimes suicidal thoughts especially in the morning. Feeling of losing touch with reality. When someone talks to me it takes 5 seconds to focus on their eyes - really weird. Constipation. Thinking is very slow. Feeling of hopelessness. Zero libido. No creativity/no motivation. JUST CRAZY. I do think my personality is a bit back.

I feel like going nuts some days like you can put me in psych ward and I'd be at home. Violent thoughts (paranoia, anxiety, anger) that I had are down though. I feel more stable in the mind. I feel less mentally ill/crazy but instead depressed and zombie-like. Like I am dreaming 24/7. Never felt this weird.

I have 12 days to go.
 

MNK99

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Keep pushing my friend. Next cycle will be easier I am certain. I hope digestion not messed up for me either. Some suicidal thoughts here and there at times, but not so much on TEI. Rare, but at times. Later maybe a short water fast? definitely helps my creativity and motivation... but I like fasting now and did before (not so much long fasts).

I think later a small water fast (not like a crazy long one) can quickly restore that creative/ambitious drive.
You'll make it man. Good honest report.
Honestly, personality coming back... a lot of other negative stuff comes back at first too. Just better and better on net, but hurdles along the way as you know.

Do you think it's the HCl and such? A lot say it increases anxiety, and probably did or does at times for me, but still not quite like the aggressiveness of other things like Randro. I'm like normal aggressive now. Assertive, not like a crocadile waiting in the deep. Maybe it's just "chelation" at large. Takes time to adjust to this TEI stuff for sure.
 

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Update on the TEI train.

Have good moments on it but overall tired. Sometimes suicidal thoughts especially in the morning. Feeling of losing touch with reality. When someone talks to me it takes 5 seconds to focus on their eyes - really weird. Constipation. Thinking is very slow. Feeling of hopelessness. Zero libido. No creativity/no motivation. JUST CRAZY. I do think my personality is a bit back.

I feel like going nuts some days like you can put me in psych ward and I'd be at home. Violent thoughts (paranoia, anxiety, anger) that I had are down though. I feel more stable in the mind. I feel less mentally ill/crazy but instead depressed and zombie-like. Like I am dreaming 24/7. Never felt this weird.

I have 12 days to go.
Got the exact same symptoms on my first cycle. How is the hair loss going? Mine increased but is less noticable after I finished 2 months. I slept like a baby on cycle tho, but never felt really rested and overall felt tired. Now I am debating between doing an urine cycle first before sending in my second hair sample.
 

MNK99

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Yeah huge change was sleeping actually became easy and routine. Usually whenever I have to do something important, structure, sleep... take a couple months. Basically any major change. became an early sleeper and early riser, with very little effort which was crazy to me (good tho). even changing routine habits a bit messes up sleep for me now it's kind of fkd up but still miles ahead of what it was. -slept 5h feel super awake didn't eat. -- went to bed late. took time to wake up tho* but on cycle slept like 7-9 hrs. Maybe even longer at times. Also, feel that yes sleep is important and less "I'll sleep when I'm dead". --that comes back and will be there, as I'm playing catch up all the time.
Probably best to keep that until all this is gone tho. in a perfect world. but time is of the essence.
 

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Got the exact same symptoms on my first cycle. How is the hair loss going? Mine increased but is less noticable after I finished 2 months. I slept like a baby on cycle tho, but never felt really rested and overall felt tired. Now I am debating between doing an urine cycle first before sending in my second hair sample.

I am not losing a lot of hair but sometimes I shed some hair. I don't think my hairloss increased on TEI at this point.

I also sleep pretty good. In the morning I just do not have any motivation to get out of bed. Kind of depressed feeling that I had when I was a teenager from time to time. Like you have no reason to go out of bed.

I am looking forward to get a snapback. ;)
 

RebelWithACause

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Second cycle your energy should come back more

Yea heard this

I'm a pussy with mental sides lol. I can handle physical pain but bad mental spot like depression/anxiety I don't handle very well. Especially when it lasts for days and is chemically induced (nothing bad happened IRL). Looking forward to finishing the cycle and getting retested.
 

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Yea heard this

I'm a pussy with mental sides lol. I can handle physical pain but bad mental spot like depression/anxiety I don't handle very well. Especially when it lasts for days and is chemically induced (nothing bad happened IRL). Looking forward to finishing the cycle and getting retested.


yeah no one handles anxiety well. try to stick with it. and dont mix with anything, otherwise second cycle will be wrong.
 

RebelWithACause

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Update:

Last day of the first cycle of TEI today. Already got the second hair test kit coming this week. Starting second cycle in January.

Biggest improvement ON cycle I have noticed in personality (feel more like myself in character - friendlier, calmer), better appetite, calmer in the mind - ability to slow down and relax. Also good performance in the gym.

I had lower libido (20%) on the cycle. In the beginning I had some higher libido days (50%) but last 4 weeks my libido has been low. I had no wet dreams anymore which is nice. I think the excessive wet dreams might of been too high copper or something. Not sure but this is resolved back to how it used to be. At least while on the TEI cycle.

Throughout the cycle I had days where I had feelings of deep sadness. Even today on the last day I notice I have this feeling. This comes and goes though. I also felt lower confidence with girls. I felt shyness talking to girls from time to time. I did not have this before. I feel a bit vulnerable around people. Good/bad I don't know. I think it is a sign of the body slowly waking up again and feeling full force of reality instead of living in a fog not feeling anything.

I have faith in the program I feel things are happening (healing?) in the body. But I know I have to give it time. I am wondering if I get a snapback effect and will let you guys know in a week.
 
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MNK99

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Yeah definitely with girls initially felt at times lovey dovey (emotional, like a real human being) and at times also so shy. Increased awkwardness. BUT also on net, more stoic less moved. Easier to not give a fuck. Good stuff. Damn son well done. Definitely takes time for sure. Vulnerability is needed for long term relationships and being open. I feel less scatterbrained, maybe at times less creative though - but just takes some time. Weeks running it and nofap(just days but even better returns in weeks and months), less awkward. Natural.

Do you have muscle-pump/muscle fatigue when working out or after perhaps? --Or maybe you did before. I might have been more catabolic, I think it's fixing NO and or lactic acid. Increasing anabolism. Would you describe yourself as Jock, Otter, Bear, Or Wolf?


Good shyt mayne!
 
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