RWAC's PFS log (on the TEI train)

[MNK99]

Never take a siesta, unless you've trained how to effectively power nap. And for healing fatigue, never.

 

[RebelWithACause]

Tomorrow is the last day of TEI second cycle.

Shedding of hair has increased the last week or so and scalp is itchier. Before that I had no shedding or very little shedding. Let's see if the Hair Gods are going to be friendly to me in the long term.

With the increase/start in shedding I have also noticed a more androgenic feeling again. Like a switch turned on. Feel more masculine - not so bitchy and irritated anymore. Sometimes the supplements make me a bit tired/foggyheaded but overall I feel better mentally.

Yesterday I was sitting next to a girl and she touched me a few times and I got rock hard erections and lightheadedness. You know that feeling when you are attracted to girl her scent and flirty body language. You cannot think 100% straight anymore. Erections without stimulation or fantasy. Did not have that feeling on finasteride but also in PFS.

The better I am getting the more I see how much finasteride killed my personality when I took it. Did not even notice it that much when I was in PFS. But looking back at the period I used finasteride (and PFS) I became a very different person. Almost scary to see how different I was.

Like your body was taken over by someone else and he lived your life in that period.

I think off the supplements I will really see where I am at but it is good progress that I feel better even on the supplements. I want to fix the body completely if possible. But this is a great sign. After doing the third cycle I will go and take a blood test for information purposes.

 

[Goose12]

Tomorrow is the last day of TEI second cycle.

Shedding of hair has increased the last week or so and scalp is itchier. Before that I had no shedding or very little shedding. Let's see if the Hair Gods are going to be friendly to me in the long term.

With the increase/start in shedding I have also noticed a more androgenic feeling again. Like a switch turned on. Feel more masculine - not so bitchy and irritated anymore. Sometimes the supplements make me a bit tired/foggyheaded but overall I feel better mentally.

Yesterday I was sitting next to a girl and she touched me a few times and I got rock hard erections and lightheadedness. You know that feeling when you are attracted to girl her scent and flirty body language. You cannot think 100% straight anymore. Erections without stimulation or fantasy. Did not have that feeling on finasteride but also in PFS.

The better I am getting the more I see how much finasteride killed my personality when I took it. Did not even notice it that much when I was in PFS. But looking back at the period I used finasteride (and PFS) I became a very different person. Almost scary to see how different I was.

Like your body was taken over by someone else and he lived your life in that period.

I think off the supplements I will really see where I am at but it is good progress that I feel better even on the supplements. I want to fix the body completely if possible. But this is a great sign. After doing the third cycle I will go and take a blood test for information purposes.

I get the same thing now when talking to a chick I like. Can't think straight, heart starts racing, and fumble a little bit on my words lol. At first I was like what is wrong with me and then I realized this is normal, this is how I used to be. It kind of sucks because I was so smooth before, but nothing like being a man.

I also get periods of more intense scalp itch but then it gets better. I think in the long term this will help our hair. I don't want to speak to soon but I think mine is getting a little thicker and I believe I am seeing regrowth on my temples. If it ever becomes noticebly different I will take some pics.

Some days I just love tei and feel so great I get on a high and feel like I can accomplish anything and I feel normal. Those are the days that prove to me tei works, it just takes time and faith.

You are a great example to everyone on how to do tei.

 

[RebelWithACause]

I get the same thing now when talking to a chick I like. Can't think straight, heart starts racing, and fumble a little bit on my words lol. At first I was like what is wrong with me and then I realized this is normal, this is how I used to be. It kind of sucks because I was so smooth before, but nothing like being a man.

I also get periods of more intense scalp itch but then it gets better. I think in the long term this will help our hair. I don't want to speak to soon but I think mine is getting a little thicker and I believe I am seeing regrowth on my temples. If it ever becomes noticebly different I will take some pics.

Some days I just love tei and feel so great I get on a high and feel like I can accomplish anything and I feel normal. Those are the days that prove to me tei works, it just takes time and faith.

You are a great example to everyone on how to do tei.

Good to hear man. I have a similar experience with girls. I think it is getting used to "sexual tension" again. On finasteride and in PFS majority of time I had zero sexual tension with women.

I think in the long run TEI will help hair yes and I did not expect to not have a shed once in a while. Even on finasteride I had sheds. In PFS until now I had no shedding which a lot of people report in PFS.

Even when you get closer to being balanced other problems will come to the surface. This is life. Even when you fix PFS/Post-Saw Palmetto life will throw problems at you to solve. I don't expect to be happy all the time for no reason. Sometimes you have to do things in life to make you happy A.K.A. the burden of performance.

 

[RebelWithACause]

I do want to say: I am not cured yet but these are good signs for sure.

 

[Admiral]

Love reading your posts Rebel!

 

[RebelWithACause]

Since I am off TEI I am back on intermittent fasting. I like it a lot. I do 16/8 IF or 18/6 IF. Tomorrow I am going to do a 24 hour window since I have a rest day. For me IF always worked well except for a short period where I could not handle fasting.

I train in the morning on empty stomach and still wait until 1PM to eat. I am not hungry after working out so it works for me.

Diet is the same as on TEI.

 

[raven]

Since I am off TEI I am back on intermittent fasting. I like it a lot. I do 16/8 IF or 18/6 IF. Tomorrow I am going to do a 24 hour window since I have a rest day. For me IF always worked well except for a short period where I could not handle fasting.

I train in the morning on empty stomach and still wait until 1PM to eat. I am not hungry after working out so it works for me.

Diet is the same as on TEI.

bro why do you keep deleting your @MNK99 style philosophical essays

 

[RebelWithACause]

bro why do you keep deleting your @MNK99 style philosophical essays

I notice I am rambling in these posts after I post them I notice it - too much thoughts but not fleshed out yet. I might post a big essay that puts it all together. I need to learn to have patience and not just blabber everything out on this forums.

 

[RebelWithACause]

Sometimes I get in this flow of writing and I just write everything but it does not contain everything and after I read it, it makes sense but not 100%. Missing links.

 

[MNK99]

True Masters Delete 99% of what they say

 

[RebelWithACause]

Got a crazy looking hairtest 3:

SYMPIA (Metabolic Support)
Calcium Plus
Magnesium Plus
GT-FORMULA (CHROMIUM)
PYRIDOX PLUS (VITAMIN B6)
COPPER PLUS
VITAMIN E PLUS

 

[RebelWithACause]

This is after taking ZMC (ZINC MANGANESE + VITAMIN C) and some other shit.

Have some good days and bad days. Overall my libido is low though. I do notice some improvement in mentality and I feel more that I am living instead of dreaming. Also seems my immune system works better (get a cold, feel ill sometimes).

On the supps I felt better than I do now.

For the rest not sure. I don't feel great. I wake up without morning wood often after this cycle and I get OCD-ish symptoms like obsessing over things I read. I also have cold hands a lot.

I think I have a lot more layers to peel off.

I am going to order the supplements at Dutch TEI again except I will add Vitamin D, Magnesium and Calcium myself to the sympia in the same amounts.

I said I was going to do three cycles at least so I will. I hope to feel a bit better soon.

I am becoming confused being in this state. I don't even know what is normal at the moment - how you should feel. Feel like going crazy a lot.

 

[Ingeno]

SYMPIA (Metabolic Support)
Calcium Plus
Magnesium Plus
GT-FORMULA (CHROMIUM)
PYRIDOX PLUS (VITAMIN B6)
COPPER PLUS
VITAMIN E PLUS

Min-Plex-B is a cheaper combination of Magnesium Plus, GT-FORMULA and PYRIDOX PLUS. Might be cheaper for you, depending on when to take each. I have the same symptoms as you + I don't feel like working out on this 2nd cycle, I feel weak/tired on some days. I had more motivation on the 1st cycle.

 

[RebelWithACause]

Min-Plex-B is a cheaper combination of Magnesium Plus, GT-FORMULA and PYRIDOX PLUS. Might be cheaper for you, depending on when to take each. I have the same symptoms as you + I don't feel like working out on this 2nd cycle, I feel weak/tired on some days. I had more motivation on the 1st cycle.

That is a good idea. Thanks man. I guess they give this combo because they don't want me to take some of them at the same time. I will look at it tonight. Otherwise I will just buy those.


On the cycle I also had a hard time working out and tired. Now I have physical energy but my mind is just a mess.

 

[RebelWithACause]

Alright I ordered the supps. When I get them - probably Wednesday I will start. I will just keep going fuck it. Let's Go Baby!

 

[RebelWithACause]

Did a 24 hour fast today instead of 16/8 IF. Can't say I felt great. I do well with 16/8 IF but 24 hours is too long for me. Maybe because I am a fast oxidiser. 16/8 seems to be perfect eating style for me. I will go back to normal eating (grazing) when I am on TEI.

Anyways moving forward I am going to do a third TEI cycle but I do want to see some good results. I am not trying to be impatient but you need to know when to quit.

I am seeing improvements and I am grateful for that but when I have a downswing all of that is gone. It is not stable yet. In these downswings it seems like I am still at the same spot or even going backward.

One thing I notice is my vision very blurry. For the longest time I thought it was normal but it is insane. Like you are not alive. It is not like my vision is bad, it is just as if I am inside my eyes looking through. Instead of my eyes displaying the actual image. Like you are dreaming. I also have bad short term memory and my personality is just gone it seems. I don't even know what to believe about myself anymore, who I am, etc.

I think TEI is making me more aware of all this shit which is why I am frustrated and it hits me harder than before. I was really far away lol - Probably 20% alive on automatic mode. I thought I was healed at one point - on pure delusion.

This is also why I am confused. I made myself believe I was better. What the fuck was wrong with me. I am really confused at the moment. It is hard to explain the feeling. I don't understand myself anymore. It is like I do not control who I am and what I do. I became a weird automaton.

I don't even remember the time I was on finasteride or in the beginning of PFS. It looks like a distant dream.

I look for things to obsess about so I don't have to think about my own life problems. I was never like this. I have become so weak and no character. It is frustrating to see.

This is why it is hard to say how much progress I make. In a sense I am more aware of everything about myself and my life. But this also makes me feel shittier by seeing it.

Maybe I am also still going through some changes. I had a similar experience after the first cycle. For the first 2 weeks I felt really weird and WORSE than on the cycle. Derealised and then in the third week I felt better.

I think this is called depersonalisation when I think about it. Depersonalization - Wikipedia

 

[raven]

@RebelWithACause can relate to a lot of that

 

[RebelWithACause]

@RebelWithACause can relate to a lot of that

Yup a lot of people in PFS/PAS/PSSD seem to experience similar things.

In the beginning I don't think I noticed this. I acted on impulses 24/7. Had no self consciousness almost. Animalistic/survivalist. That is why I don't remember almost anything from finasteride and beginning of PFS. It was on automatic trying to survive.

Things from before finasteride I remember well. Especially things in my early teens (12-15). Sometimes I remember them like yesterday. The friends I had back then, videogames I played and the people I played against online, girls I was talking to, sports I was playing, etc.

Maybe if you get a bit better you start becoming more aware of what is going on. At this point I don't know I am too confused to even make sense of what is going on. It is like a bug in the human system.

Instead of being your own mental point of origin you are sitting in the passenger seat. You experience all the things a human experience but it is like you see it as a second person. The person is not you anymore it is something on it's own and you are looking at what it's doing.

Yea it is crazy. But I read on that wiki that a lot of people with psychological issues experience it. PFS/PAS/PSSD all give obvious psychological issues so not strange that your brain sometimes goes a bit crazy.

 

[sanka]

How many days you are off supps right now?