RWAC's PFS log (on the TEI train)

[bruschi11]

Since 4 days I am in a depression now. I wake up hopeless about everything. No ability to enjoy things. No sex drive, nothing. Also tired physically. I think my body is healing but it has shut down everything else to heal.

I feel more similar to how I used to feel pre-finasteride and pre-PFS. More depth in my personality instead of a robot. More aware of the bad things in life as well. More aware of insecurities. Pretty annoying stuff but also a good sign.

Kind of similar what I experienced in the flatline of NoFap which took 2 or 3 months. After that I was better.

I’m going through similar stuff post fast man. It’s tough. Take care of your gut and liver - make sure you’re eating near perfect during these time periods. Your body needs to work on itself and you don’t want to interfere with it.

 

[RebelWithACause]

I’m going through similar stuff post fast man. It’s tough. Take care of your gut and liver - make sure you’re eating near perfect during these time periods. Your body needs to work on itself and you don’t want to interfere with it.

Yes I Will thanks

 

[RebelWithACause]

I have 2 weeks to go on this cycle to hit 2 months. Next Wednesday I will go to the barber, cut my hair and send the new sample.

Kinda getting annoyed with the program right now. Feeling fatigue everyday is annoying as fuck! Not saying I was better without it but sometimes I just get sick of it. That is why I write here in my log.

Maybe I am also getting better a bit since I notice this stuff more. Getting annoyed by the fatigue for example.

While before this I was happy to not feel like death anymore. I accepted everything. Now not so much - although I have to accept that I feel the fatigue.

 

[RebelWithACause]

This always helps to push through

 

[Aflac94]

This always helps to push through

I think you have to heal a little bit to start thinking like this , but this guy is spot on. I don’t think I was an optimist before PFS , I can’t really remember to be honest, but I definitely noticed my optimism now. Which is ironic

 

[bruschi11]

I have 2 weeks to go on this cycle to hit 2 months. Next Wednesday I will go to the barber, cut my hair and send the new sample.

Kinda getting annoyed with the program right now. Feeling fatigue everyday is annoying as fuck! Not saying I was better without it but sometimes I just get sick of it. That is why I write here in my log.

Maybe I am also getting better a bit since I notice this stuff more. Getting annoyed by the fatigue for example.

While before this I was happy to not feel like death anymore. I accepted everything. Now not so much - although I have to accept that I feel the fatigue.

Do some fasting and liver flushing. They’ll help you deal with the fatigue when you’re back on tei.

 

[RebelWithACause]

Got a cold but I feel better. Second time I got "sick"/immune response on TEI.

 

[RebelWithACause]

Still sick but almost better. Yesterday pretty bad fever.

I ran out of supplements - I just took my last dosage. Will send my hair Wednesday and see what happened.

 

[RebelWithACause]

Had two wet dreams last few days. Crashed me a bit.

I don't feel good off the supps for now. Wake up with anxiety in the morning. Cannot be bothered to socialise. I'm a moody prick!

Craving junkfoods like glazed donuts, McDonalds, Burger King, KFC, cookies, bread, cake, etc. I don't eat that but still noticeable to me. I have not had those cravings for months. I am hungry in general. Maybe I am craving dopamine shots.

I'm also tired. In the gym I feel like passing out when I am under the weight (squats). Physically I have strength but mentally I am tired.

I notice a big swing in mood throughout the day. In the morning it is OK, in the afternoon I get really pissed off - probably from the lack of energy. I do not have enough energy with people dealing with their shit and the longer the day goes on the less energy I have (logical).

I think the tiredness is making me an asshole but I don't have enough energy to bother with it.

I want to log everything that is worth noticing including the down cycles.

Overall I do think I am improving. If I look back pre-TEI I was worse. But it is a slow process. And we have noone who is 100% from it yet so until then we are riding in the dark. But for me I see it also as a way to see what works for PFS. Meanwhile other people can try other protocols. I think by spreading it wide and trying many different protocols we can get to an answer much quicker.

 

[MNK99]

Get some donair poutine man and hit the clubs. (food after clubs obviously)

 

[RebelWithACause]

Some updates off the sups:

- Still sick - w/ mild fever now (from high to mild)

- Hair shedding like crazy after this cycle, sometimes have the DHT itch a bit - dont see my hair taking a hit though, looks the same

- Mood is pretty stable now. First few days were rough but now I feel stable.

- Music sounds good and enjoyable

- Have more fantasy and ideas again and looking more into the future. Instead of regret and looking at the past all the time

- Better sense of smell

- Libido can't tell since I have been sick. With sickness my libido always goes down. I think libido will come the last portion.

I started eating more vegetables in my diet as well. Since I see it recommended by a lot of NB people.

Off the supps everything is easier lol. On the supps it is crazy. You feel like a lunatic.

 

[RebelWithACause]

Not sure if I am still sick or it is just heavy detox or something. I feel sick and have fever. Also I am very lightheaded. Like I got hit by a train.

Today I went to work again because I was sick of sitting inside at home.

I feel tired as hell! Like really tired sometimes feeling of fainting. Like a sack of shit.

I do feel more like myself ATM. Which is nice. But the fatigue and fever I think just overrides that. I have not worked out at all for a week.

 

[Goose12]

Not sure if I am still sick or it is just heavy detox or something. I feel sick and have fever. Also I am very lightheaded. Like I got hit by a train.

Today I went to work again because I was sick of sitting inside at home.

I feel tired as hell! Like really tired sometimes feeling of fainting. Like a sack of shit.

I do feel more like myself ATM. Which is nice. But the fatigue and fever I think just overrides that. I have not worked out at all for a week.

Do you think you have a virus running it's course? Looks like you have been sick for two weeks! I was sick for at least a week at one point.

I would stay off the supps until you are better. It could be detox, hidden virus, or infection

 

[RebelWithACause]

Do you think you have a virus running it's course? Looks like you have been sick for two weeks! I was sick for at least a week at one point.

I would stay off the supps until you are better. It could be detox, hidden virus, or infection

Yea I am off the supps. Once I got off the supps I got sick. I am waiting for the new hairtest.

Probably a virus. But it is lasting for a long time for some reason. I was had higher fever 3 days ago where I was on my bed all day. But now it is low level fever and energy is run down.

 

[bruschi11]

Some updates off the sups:

- Still sick - w/ mild fever now (from high to mild)

- Hair shedding like crazy after this cycle, sometimes have the DHT itch a bit - dont see my hair taking a hit though, looks the same

- Mood is pretty stable now. First few days were rough but now I feel stable.

- Music sounds good and enjoyable

- Have more fantasy and ideas again and looking more into the future. Instead of regret and looking at the past all the time

- Better sense of smell

- Libido can't tell since I have been sick. With sickness my libido always goes down. I think libido will come the last portion.

I started eating more vegetables in my diet as well. Since I see it recommended by a lot of NB people.

Off the supps everything is easier lol. On the supps it is crazy. You feel like a lunatic.

Lol being sick during this sucks. While you are like “sweet, I’m sick immune system is normalizing.” And historically lots of guys make big improvements after illness like myself in early ‘18 a month long winter cold pushed me forward like crazy.

But what I was getting at is that you’re in your own head the whole time You’re sick. “Is this pfs or my cold” you think to yourself regarding so many symptoms.

I’m sick as a dog right now- sneezing, coughing, so stuffed up. Will say urine therapy seems to be helping quite a bit in terms of energy through this.

 

[RebelWithACause]

Lol being sick during this sucks. While you are like “sweet, I’m sick immune system is normalizing.” And historically lots of guys make big improvements after illness like myself in early ‘18 a month long winter cold pushed me forward like crazy.

But what I was getting at is that you’re in your own head the whole time You’re sick. “Is this pfs or my cold” you think to yourself regarding so many symptoms.

I’m sick as a dog right now- sneezing, coughing, so stuffed up. Will say urine therapy seems to be helping quite a bit in terms of energy through this.

Yea for me the mental symptoms are quite low ATM - it is extreme fatigue. I think I have never felt this tired in my life!! Except maybe when I did not sleep all night.

are you still injecting the urine? Or drinking it. LMAO injecting sounds insane to me. But if it works it works.

 

[Kjbigman]

Not sure if I am still sick or it is just heavy detox or something. I feel sick and have fever. Also I am very lightheaded. Like I got hit by a train.

Today I went to work again because I was sick of sitting inside at home.

I feel tired as hell! Like really tired sometimes feeling of fainting. Like a sack of shit.

I do feel more like myself ATM. Which is nice. But the fatigue and fever I think just overrides that. I have not worked out at all for a week.

At work right now and I feel the same. But I'm ON finasteride. my head feels heavy and I can barely move...dizzy and disoriented.

 

[Kjbigman]

Small update today:

Felt good today. Slept great. I feel my emotions again. Not cry baby. But feeling joy and wanting to socialise. Yesterday I also experienced this. Women looked attractive again instead of feeling nothing. I had random (rock hard) boners today. I had that animal feeling. I have not had that since quitting finasteride. I felt like a robot and disconnected from the world after quitting finasteride - almost psychopathic. Plus anxious from time to time.

No anxiety today what so ever.

My whole body feels warm.

These changes all happened after adding l-cysteine (500 mg), l-histidine (tiny amount), copper (2 mg) and quitting caffeine. I am also drinking a lot of tomato juice. Eating a good amount of spinach, rice, fish and shrimp. Plus the beet juice.

I am not 100% yet. But the state I was in today was very close to pre-finasteride.

I will keep doing this for a week and then report back my findings. See if it improves more and/or stabilises.

Were you Copper Deficient?

 

[RebelWithACause]

Were you Copper Deficient?

I was not that good back then. I had some upswings and thought "oh I am cured!!" I was probably 20/100. I was delusional back then.

I got zinc for a while on first 2 TEI cycles. Last cycle I got a lot of copper (almost 10mg I think per day). So seems I needed both zinc and copper.

About the brainfog. Finasteride gave me terrible brainfog from the start. But it became worse throughout the months I was on it.

Brainfog on Finasteride was insane. Plus I had no emotions on finasteride at all. Nada. No joy, no sadness either.

The fatigue I have now is different.

Hard to explain how bad I was on finasteride since it influenced all my thought processes - it was not "just brainfog". It was a lot more. But I did not realise it after being on the drug for a while.

Plus I never got sick while on finasteride. Really weird.

 

[Kjbigman]

I was not that good back then. I had some upswings and thought "oh I am cured!!" I was probably 20/100. I was delusional back then.

I got zinc for a while on first 2 TEI cycles. Last cycle I got a lot of copper (almost 10mg I think per day). So seems I needed both zinc and copper.

About the brainfog. Finasteride gave me terrible brainfog from the start. But it became worse throughout the months I was on it.

Brainfog on Finasteride was insane. Plus I had no emotions on finasteride at all. Nada. No joy, no sadness either.

The fatigue I have now is different.

Hard to explain how bad I was on finasteride since it influenced all my thought processes - it was not "just brainfog". It was a lot more. But I did not realise it after being on the drug for a while.

Plus I never got sick while on finasteride. Really weird.

Y
es, that is how I feel right now ! And I rarely get sick. the first year and a half, zero sickness. Now I get sick on occasion. So, would you recommend TEI over the other lab?