Slayo's PFS Log- is recovery possible for me ?

Slayo

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I know this isn't normal health, but is it possible to eat around 500-1000 above what you think is possible?
Slightly bad "set point" occurred to me... and at 25 or so, I ate 6 weeks, increasing 300 and 500 per day each week. 6-7 weeks later I was stronger and didn't gain much fat if at all, cut at higher numbers like 2500 rather than 1500 or less and less. Now, I'm pretty extreme, but cuz of that surgery, etc... I was probably 14 and looked 16-17%. Now less, but if I ever eat way too low for 5-6 days, I just ignore diet (but eat healthy, ignoring the numbers) and it balances out.
-Since then stronger, leaner, without having to dip too low.
-I do fast crazy, but it's partly stims, and also: I think it helps mood/focus stuff... and possibly PFS. Helps gym gains, which motivates at very least.
-It's routine for me and a reward after a productive day. And changing routines fucks up a lot for me (in life).
-But with only espresso, I've done it too.
-I'm actually barely taking stims, bc of some other stuff I'm trying, and can easily eat 1-3 meals post 18hrs.
-IF you can FAST, you can EAT. And at different times need to do either one.

1800 can sustain, 2500, 3000, etc or whatever numbers, it's just adaptation. Like noise... sound. Volume at 14... play it at 10 all week, then 11 is loud.
I could be very wrong as we have different current health situations. I did get a bit more fat, but there's something to cut back to, and years since, stronger and leaner.. whether eating clean and exercising or fucking off even.

If you've eaten low cals forever.... it's safe to say it's quite possible to up it. NOT all at once. It's safe to gain or lose 1-2lb initially for most people healthily... so say 1lb, or .5lb... that's still 2 a month. 1 lb is 3500 excess calories over energy expenditure (TDEE* = Total Daily Expenditure). So 500, so 300 is playing it safe per day.

Some lady wrote a thread on BBF, it was great
But, I can't find that. This seems reasonable as well:
Nutrition

After training fasted, and then eating meals for 21 days not so bad... Easy to do.
In contrast, forcing myself to eat a ton more probably is worse, it took me 35-42 days to make it easier part of routine and not a hassle. I had to write every meal down. Now past that point and try not to bother but did for PFS. I remember and calc everything all the time anyways.

If in doubt emulate the fattest kids you see, take some of their habits (short term!)

Man i'm gaining weight on 1800-2000 calories, so i'm keeping with that (and it's the maximum i can eat), once i see that i can't gain weight anymore i will add a mass gainer.
It's fine for me if i gain 5kg in 3 months, so i have time to raise my electrolytes with ARL (i hope it will work), because with so bad electrolytes i can't fast
 

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Just bought sodium butyrate and liquid pc, will use them in an enema with the bravo yoghurt, let's see if i'm able too improve my liver substantially with this stuffs so i can eat more
 

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i took a nap in the room that was worst affectwd by mold but now is remediated and i still react (palpitations, diarrhea, inflammed veins, etc), This means i'm reacting to the objects in thw room...that is a fucking nightmare, i'm 2 weeks on ARL programm and no change in mold sensitiviry, and i don't think arl will fix it like helen says otherwise all the people in mold groups will go on nutritional balancing and fix their problems instead of doing the extreme things they do that also kill them financially.
Also i have found people with mold toxicity trying nutritional balancing and it didn't do anything for their sensitivity
 
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i took a nap in the room that was worst affectwd by mold but now is remediated and i still react (palpitations, diarrhea, inflammed veins, etc), This means i'm reacting to the objects in thw room...that is a fucking nightmare, i'm 2 weeks on ARL programm and no change in mold sensitiviry, and i don't think arl will fix it, otherwise all the people in mold groups will go on nutritional balancing and fix their problems instead of doing the extreme things they do that also kill them financially.
Also i have found people with mold toxicity trying nutritional balancing and it didn't do anything for their sensitivity

2 Weeks isn't nearly enough man. Keep at it for a while longer.
 

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I started the PC, it has omega 3 and 6 in perfect ratio too, i also bought these aminos and will take like 4 tablets a day: PAA+
It has casein unfortunately, let me know if someone thinks i should get more than 4 a day, since they seem high dosage i would avoid to mess up and unbalance myself
 

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I have two updates:

1)almost ended the month on ARL without any change at all, i trusted you @Helen but nothing of what you have suggested has worked

2) yesterday i tried liquid PC rectally and holy shit i got change in heart beat, inflammed veins, etc i thought i was getting an aneurism, anyone knows the reason ? I know in one case PC can give cardiovascular sides but i don't remeber which one is (maybe there are involved some snip's).
Tonight i used 1/3 capsule of butyric acid rectally and it fucked me up, got extremly deidrathed, violent headaches, etc i tried it cause some people in mold groups were having success with it.

Now i don't know what, to do, since i'm reacting to stuffs involved in mold detox maybe i should just focus on mold
 

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I have two updates:

1)almost ended the month on ARL without any change at all, i trusted you @Helen but nothing of what you have suggested has worked

2) yesterday i tried liquid PC rectally and holy shit i got change in heart beat, inflammed veins, etc i thought i was getting an aneurism, anyone knows the reason ? I know in one case PC can give cardiovascular sides but i don't remeber which one is (maybe there are involved some snip's).
Tonight i used 1/3 capsule of butyric acid rectally and it fucked me up, got extremly deidrathed, violent headaches, etc i tried it cause some people in mold groups were having success with it.

Now i don't know what, to do, since i'm reacting to stuffs involved in mold detox maybe i should just focus on mold


Stay on the program or go on TEI( it could be faster)) 3 weeks?

It will take several cycles at MIN

Dont add anything to a program.

I dont quite understand what mold detox is . I had crazy reactions to mold, I promise you. I would totally crash when I would wear some clothes which were dusty, or moldy buildings , crash like POIS crash.

This is a reaction to mold. Not mold toxicity. IMO

Programs totally got rid of that stuff for me.

Get off the program now, take a break for a week. and see may be your baseline is higher.

Also I thought you would go on TEI, you said you liked their programs better . ARL is much longer program, at 3 weeks it does nothing at all.
 
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Slayo. I think it's the best way out. Sensation doesn't mean it's over. Pain along the way. It's a bitch, don't get me wrong.
 

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I have two updates:

1)almost ended the month on ARL without any change at all, i trusted you @Helen but nothing of what you have suggested has worked

2) yesterday i tried liquid PC rectally and holy shit i got change in heart beat, inflammed veins, etc i thought i was getting an aneurism, anyone knows the reason ? I know in one case PC can give cardiovascular sides but i don't remeber which one is (maybe there are involved some snip's).
Tonight i used 1/3 capsule of butyric acid rectally and it fucked me up, got extremly deidrathed, violent headaches, etc i tried it cause some people in mold groups were having success with it.

Now i don't know what, to do, since i'm reacting to stuffs involved in mold detox maybe i should just focus on mold
A month on arl/tei is nothing. You should go a minimum of 2 months, maybe 3. On my tei cycles I noticed minor improvements on cycle but major improvements from the snapback.

Just have faith in the program and take nothing else.
 

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A month on arl/tei is nothing. You should go a minimum of 2 months, maybe 3. On my tei cycles I noticed minor improvements on cycle but major improvements from the snapback.

Just have faith in the program and take nothing else.
Are you cured of pfs goose?
 

Goose12

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Are you cured of pfs goose?
No, not yet. I am getting close though. Labido has been a struggle to get back but with tei I am finally making some headway. I am hovering around 40% with labido.

All my info is on my log. One thing I have noticed lately is that I didn't completely realize how bad I was at times and it's hard to make a judgement of were I am at in my recovery but I am making some great headway.

And for the first time in a while I am excited about the future.
 

Slayo

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Stay on the program or go on TEI( it could be faster)) 3 weeks?

It will take several cycles at MIN

Dont add anything to a program.

I dont quite understand what mold detox is . I had crazy reactions to mold, I promise you. I would totally crash when I would wear some clothes which were dusty, or moldy buildings , crash like POIS crash.

This is a reaction to mold. Not mold toxicity. IMO

Programs totally got rid of that stuff for me.

Get off the program now, take a break for a week. and see may be your baseline is higher.

Also I thought you would go on TEI, you said you liked their programs better . ARL is much longer program, at 3 weeks it does nothing at all.

Yes now i will retest and do TEI for 2 months, i decided to do one month of ARL because i already had the test done.

You say to not add anything, my OAT showed systemic protein deficiency so i decided to add aminos, is this okay or should i quit aminos too ?
 

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Aminos aren’t going to hurt you but don’t over do them. Like every other day. Don’t want to flood amino acid pathways too much over and over again.

I take collagen protein like 4-5 times a week. Whey 2-3. Change it up.
 

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Now once off ARL and waiting for TEI retest i decided to try ozone footh baths (i just fill a basin with hot water and put my feeth there while i run the ozonator), will try it tomorrow, i don't know if in this way i will get enough ozone in.
Today i tried sauna ozone and full body ozone bath, and it fucked me up, i definetly breath too much of that stuff my lungs felt inflammed, got crazy brain pressure, etc so i won't do them again, this is why i decided to do just footh baths since the nose is much further from the ozone
 

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It has been 2 days i'm taking the mass gainer and i'm feeling very bad, some all sides returning like i feel cold all the time like if i have a fever and joins pain, i'm sure it is to blame the high carb of the scoop (75g for the 350 calories scoop i take).

I don't know what to do guys, i just need to put other 3kg to fast ! But i can't feel this bad in the meanwhile, i can't eat more of solid foods, i need some high calories powder, any suggestions ?

I'm already taking 3 tablespoons of sunflower lecithin (80 calories each tablespoon), i don't know if it is wise to imcrrase to six, what do you think ? (I post the label of the lecithin i'm taking)

I thought about adding some proteins powder, but i already eat high proteins, so i dono how wise it could be, plus they haven't much calories.

Please someone helps me
 
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Helen

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It has been 2 days i'm taking the mass gainer and i'm feeling very bad, some all sides returning like i feel cold all the time like if i have a fever and koins pain, i'm sure it is to blame the high carb of the scoop (75g for the 350 calories scoop i take).

I don't know what to do guys, i just need to put other 3kg to fast ! But i can't feel this bad in the meanwhile, i can't eat more of solid foods, i need some high calories powder, any suggestions ?

I'm already taking 3 tablespoons of sunflower lecithin (80 calories each tablespoon), i don't know if it is wise to imcrrase to six, what do you think ? (I post the label of the lecithin i'm taking)

I thought about adding some proteins powder, but i already eat high proteins, so i dono how wise it could be, plus they haven't much calories.

Please someone helps me


Do you feel bad on carbs on its own?