RebelWithACause

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@RebelWithACause bottom line, I think you dont understand what alpha male is. Alpha males is not a mindset, it is a mindset that proved to be A WINNER.

Only then you can be alpha. At 14-18 year old, those are still kids and at those ages, yes, it is highschool, and there are no commitments, nothing, a girl does not chose a partner.

Those are kids like elementary school, or highschool, when kids still fight, abuse each other so on , bullies are there, etc. ALL this changes in real life

Just like that all your muscles become worthless.

Nature don't give a shit what you want to be true. I look at DYNAMIC that plays out in real world. You just want to live in fantasy land "what should be".

Basic human psychology don't give a shit about what you want to be true.

I am observer. I do not say: THIS SHOULD BE. This is what me and 1000's of other men have observed. This is the red pill. This is also why people hate it. Because it is a rough thing to accept.

You want alpha male to be rich succesful guy that chases his dreams.

Yet reality is different. Because Mark Zuckerberg is still perceived as beta male. By the whole world. He can have money but deep on limbic level everybody thinks "what a loser". His loser mindset also comes out to play how he handles FaceBook. It is beta male mentality.

I did not accept this view. But I could not stay blind. I saw it everywhere. This explained a lot of my hardships of my life. This is why I know it is true. Or at least closer to the truth.

This is core sexual strategies. Not who wins the society game.
 

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Mark zuckerberg doesnt get laid for shit. He isnt alpha and girls dont want to fuck him.
How many girls do you know of that want to fuck zuck? Lol not even one, that guy screams beta male.
How about that Hot fellon guy from a few years back? Guy is broke as shit but is alpha because of looks and being a felon (not necessarily saing being a felon is alpha). How many girls want to fuck him? 1000? 5000?
Lol guy gets all thw chicks without saying a word!
 

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Nature don't give a shit what you want to be true. I look at DYNAMIC that plays out in real world. You just want to live in fantasy land "what should be".

Basic human psychology don't give a shit about what you want to be true.

I am observer. I do not say: THIS SHOULD BE. This is what me and 1000's of other men have observed. This is the red pill. This is also why people hate it. Because it is a rough thing to accept.

I did not accept this view. But I could not stay blind. I saw it everywhere. This explained a lot of my hardships of my life. This is why I know it is true. Or at least closer to the truth.

you dont live a real life yet you are 20. LOL You observed tiny amounts of years and I observed twice as much LOL

As I told you already, just imagine that there are only 20 women in this world

And then there 2 dudes, one alpha as you say, and another alpha as I say. the SCORE will be 18 to 2 to my side.

That is your nature.
 

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Mark zuckerberg doesnt get laid for shit. He isnt alpha and girls dont want to fuck him.
How many girls do you know of that want to fuck zuck? Lol not even one, that guy screams beta male.
How about that Hot fellon guy from a few years back? Guy is broke as shit but is alpha because of looks and being a felon (not necessarily saing being a felon is alpha). How many girls want to fuck him? 1000? 5000?
Lol guy gets all thw chicks without saying a word!

A LINE will be built as long as silicon valley to fuck Zuc.
 

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Aren't you both saying the same?
Helen <-> Rebel
balanced nervous system, superior neural net (potential for alpha)<-> alpha mindset, raw attraction
alpha <-> very successful alpha with a lot of money, power, etc.

Of course latter one wins.

Of course you can emulate behavior of balanced nervous system and you will be more successful with women (like pickup scene tries to do)
 

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you dont live a real life yet you are 20. LOL You observed tiny amounts of years and I observed twice as much LOL

As I told you already, just imagine that there are only 20 women in this world

And then there 2 dudes, one alpha as you say, and another alpha as I say. the SCORE will be 18 to 2 to my side.

That is your nature.

That is right. This is why 20% of the guys are fucking 80% of the women. This is not 100% to the T. But I can guarantee you a lot of guys are not getting laid. They are invisible to women.

This is harsh reality.

Money is important because it gives you power. And a beta male can go from invisible to visible when he has money.

If you know the game you can outplay women. It is important to know the reality. Otherwise you will be at the short end of stick. This is how women divorce rich guys and get half their money. Because the rich guy is clueless how women work. He believes in fantasy.
 

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I don't have to be a woman to decide this, it's enough to see how they react to various different people.

Maybe it's all just a demographic misunderstanding. Rebel talks about younger females, like 18 year old ones, who are usually not that much into settling, so they're more attracted to alpha males most of the time. Then they might ditch them when she finds out he fucks another girl or whatever. The older they get, the more they care about stability in order to establish a family, which reaches its peak around the age which you like in females (35 year olds). They realize their biologial clock is ticking. They might be attracted to him mostly because they think their children will get to be raised in a good and stable family and thus he definitely can be appealing. But what I think is why so many marriages fail is that many men are just too cuckolded. The more the woman spends her time with the man, the more he annoys her, so she looks for something more masculine elsewhere. Unless that woman is also one who's messed up and is into dominating her husband. But I don't think being rich is required for that (a 35 year old female being attracted to you), it's just not being poor and having enough money and stability for a family. And the girls who chase the really rich people are to be avoided at all costs IMO. Materialistic sluts.

The best thing is someone who has alpha characteristics to a certain extent, but he places them onto his family and children eventually. So kind of a noble alpha. One who is the leader in the relationship, masculine, cares and protects his wife and children from everything. Unless you don't want a family.


I am just talking to Rebel on this level . I explained to people what alpha is to me. Alpha is an achievment, young boy cant be alpha. LOL he is only alpha in his little group where he is, that is NOT the whole world.

in the whole world he is nothing.

So if you have 20 chicks even if they are 18. And give them a chance with ZUC or this friends of Rebel who is alpha. LOL I am sorry but Rebel s friend will be single LOL
 

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I am just talking to Rebel on this level . I explained to people what alpha is to me. Alpha is an achievment, young boy cant be alpha. LOL he is only alpha in his little group where he is, that is NOT the whole world.

in the whole world he is nothing.

So if you have 20 chicks even if they are 18. And give them a chance with ZUC or this friends of Rebel who is alpha. LOL I am sorry but Rebel s friend will be single LOL

If Zuck and me are in one room and they would not know who he is, Zuck would be invisible. Not just because of how he looks. But I can guarantee he gives off beta male aura.

He is attractive because he offers lifestyle. He offers them security. He offers money.

Which shows that the attraction is negotiated. Not raw attraction.
 

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It is limbic reaction. So it is not based on what people have and offer (money, status, etc). It is direct limbic reaction to the guy's behaviour and aura.
 

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If Zuck and me are in one room and they would not know who he is, Zuck would be invisible. Not just because of how he looks. But I can guarantee he gives off beta male aura.

He is attractive because he offers lifestyle. He offers them security. He offers money.

Which shows that the attraction is negotiated. Not raw attraction.

You are insane. you have no idea, a rich person has bigger aura, since he is more free. they will feel from the start that he is super rich.

Who cares about some raw attraction, are you crazy. This world does nto have anything raw. as you said you use tools to get food, his tools are better,
 

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You are insane. you have no idea, a rich person has bigger aura, since he is more free. they will feel from the start that he is super rich.

Who cares about some raw attraction, are you crazy. This world does nto have anything raw. as you said you use tool to get food, his tools are better,

Put me and Zuck in a room and we can test it with camera. Hackstasis VLOG #1. RWAC vs. Mark Zuckerberg.

I respect him Helen. Does not mean he is alpha male. Your definition of alpha male is just different and I do not think we will agree.

I think money and power can make you act more alpha male because you have less worries about the world. You are put in spot of alpha male. So you think more like alpha male. Sadly I still see a lot of rich people (like Prince Harry, Mark Zuckerberg) being complete beta male in their behaviour. Also with women.

That confirms what I believe and that is that alpha male is behaviour and mindset. It is an aura. And some dudes just have this behaviour and aura naturally. Even if they are criminal and poor and not living by society rules.
 

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Put me and Zuck in a room and we can test it with camera. Hackstasis VLOG #1. RWAC vs. Mark Zuckerberg.

I respect him Helen. Does not mean he is alpha male. Your definition of alpha male is just different and I do not think we will agree.


as I said, it has nothing to do with agreement, i understand your definition. and I debunked it , since Zuc personally will kill you with women.

And you for some reason constantly trying to strip him only to his body, but at the same time, you want to use tools like knives to get food?

you are wrong. it is all about score.

if his looks and his attitude plus money = gets him more chicks than you, then you lose

And you cant take way his popularity, that is his alpha SIDE)) . it is like making you lose all the muscles and weight to 50 kg ))

if zuckerberg right now comes to the town near you , you will be sitting in the corner alone, and there will be a crowd of women all over him , and most of them will be the women you know

but you for some reason put it , naked ZUC against Naked Reb, and ZUc has to have no name and zuck has ot lose all his money

that is the whole idea that money and popularity will beat you.

And Zuc is not even real alpha. Now if you take real alpha from DOW 30 companies, you will have a total zero chance.
 

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as I said, it has nothing to do with agreement, i understand your definition. and I debunked it , since Zuc personally will kill you with women.

And you for some reason constantly trying to strip him only to his body, but at the same time, you want to use tools like knives to get food?

you are wrong. it is all about score.

if his looks and his attitude plus money = gets him more chicks than you, then you lose

And you cant take way his popularity, that is his alpha SIDE)) . it is like making you lose all the muscles and weight to 50 kg ))

It is not about muscle or money, or THINGS. I said this before.

Alpha male is behaviour and mindset. So it is not about the score. Because even the alpha male with -0 score on the billboard is getting pussy like water.

You want the game to be fair. But there are people born with score -0 getting pussy and being treated like alpha males.

Now Mark Zuckerberg can kill him. Jail him and dominate him. OK the alpha male loses. But this does not make Mark Zuck an alpha.

So why does alpha male with nothing to show for still get pussy and women thrown at him?

This is why you can put two people together with nothing no tools. One of them is alpha male.

You did not debunk anything. You just push your view on me and I disagree.
 

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im sorry @Helen but Zuck was the worst example to use
 

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they would be attracted to them for the resources they provide, which is not ideal

are you for real? attraction is for the whole package. brain is the major attraction. Who said that women are attracted to physical appearance, they are not.

they are not men. Women are attracted to a package. Men are attracted to physical appearance, not women.

And this is why men like idiots, think that women also are attacted to them for physical appearace or attiude.

they are attracted for safety , for resources, that is natural for them, they are chosing a stronger male. IN LIFE , no in the gym ))
 

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are you for real? attraction is for the whole package. brain is the major attraction. Who said that women are attracted to physical appearance, they are not.

they are not men. Women are attracted to a package.

They are attracted to a package; the physical and the mind. But money is something else, money is about resources and not the person. Which is why Bill Gates > Zuckerberg, cause honestly Zuck doesn't have either going for him, he's smart but he's a dick.

Men are attracted to the package too, I would not date a girl just cause she's hot, she needs to be interesting as well.