VERY BAD NEWS (DHT, Fibrosis, Scars,DMSO, Moles, NO, B1, B2)

[Ocguy]

I like the horse chestnut extract (escine) and the calendula oil in it, but how the hell can you use a DMSO product that is packaged in plastic? The pump is plastic as well and I doubt that can be internally coated with something protective...


Ingredients: DMSO (25% by volume; derived from plant pulp), triple UV treated deionized water, methylsulfonylmethane (12% OptiMSM - sulfur), organic calendula flower extract, organic horse chestnut extract, vegetable glycerin (derived from coconut), organic aloe vera extract 200:1, organic usnea, grapefruit seed extract, organic apricot kernel oil, organic arnica oil, 100% pure essential oil of melaleuca alternifolia (tea tree), organic sweet almond oil, vitamins A, D3, & E oils, fatty acid esters derived from coconut pulp used as an emulsifier, organic peppermint oil.

Yea, I totally agree, I was concerned about it not being glass too.. but when all the others were swearing by it I said fuckitt..

As I was using it, I noticed the dmso wasn't really prevelent like when it's straight.. as I mentioned earlier, u don't get that garlic taste.. my guess is all the fats and creams emulsify it and it changes its composition somewhat and doesn't leech the plastic..

That's also why I mentioned adding an extra drop of straight dmso (hopefully from a glass bottle) for an extra kick.. but it's probably not necessay, it's been the best ointment I've every used in its own right.. 10x better than arnica. Or other creams and oils.. Yea I love horse chestnut too

 

[SwaZ]

@HS I dont know the mechanism of action for DMSO but it made the scar protrude less and made it blend in with the skin. I dont have the before pictures but i do have after pictures if anyone wants to see.

If you have an option between dmso in plastic or dmso in glass, always go for glass, second best option would be HDPE plastic imo.

I too get the garlic taste, 70% dmso 30% water like people recommend is the best penetrator and has the best action.

I have tried Horse chestnut tincture( supposedly higher in escin), allaintoin and dmso together on penis not too long ago to try and fix some possible vein problems.
Glans does get engorged in blood a little bit more but im sure its 100% a hard flaccid/Pelvic problem for me.

Honestly, the first thing i would do if this were me, would be serrapeptase + natokinase. Sister has carpal tunnel sindrome and has had surgery, but she said that serapeptase and natokinase had helped her the most with CTS in terms of mobility and pain.

And Dmso + allantoin + escin topically. And after it gets absorbed some vitamin E oil.

 

[TubZy]

@HS I dont know the mechanism of action for DMSO but it made the scar protrude less and made it blend in with the skin. I dont have the before pictures but i do have after pictures if anyone wants to see.

If you have an option between dmso in plastic or dmso in glass, always go for glass, second best option would be HDPE plastic imo.

I too get the garlic taste, 70% dmso 30% water like people recommend is the best penetrator and has the best action.

I have tried Horse chestnut tincture( supposedly higher in escin), allaintoin and dmso together on penis not too long ago to try and fix some possible vein problems.
Glans does get engorged in blood a little bit more but im sure its 100% a hard flaccid/Pelvic problem for me.

Honestly, the first thing i would do if this were me, would be serrapeptase + natokinase. Sister has carpal tunnel sindrome and has had surgery, but she said that serapeptase and natokinase had helped her the most with CTS in terms of mobility and pain.

And Dmso + allantoin + escin topically. And after it gets absorbed some vitamin E oil.

Interesting. I couldnt find too much info on it besides a few areas. How did the dmso work your veins? DMSO topic always comes up on PEGYM lol. If you have pics of the scar, post them if you want
Effects of DMSO on a rabbit ear hypertrophic scar model: A controlled randomized experimental study. - PubMed - NCBI

 

[SwaZ]

Note: This is a scar from a heated lighter being pressed into skin, the scar looked like a dick head/glans hence the reason of why i wanted it gone. Its really hard to tell its even a scar as dmso has cleared it 99%

 

[SwaZ]

https://imgur.com/U788qTK

And this is what i used on penis. Little spider veins have dissapeared but the larger ones are still there, altho i wasnt too consistent with usage.

Edit: fixed image link

 

[TubZy]

https://imgur.com/GkrWtXV

And this is what i used on penis. Little spider veins have dissapeared but the larger ones are still there, altho i wasnt too consistent with usage.

How often and how long did you use it for until you noticed get smaller? Btw, i cant see the second pic so not sure what you posted

 

[SwaZ]

How often and how long did you use it for until you noticed get smaller? Btw, i cant see the second pic so not sure what you posted

Once daily, for about two weeks untill i ran out of dmso and vitamin e.
Noticed results after about 2 days in, mostly on places where skin is thinner so maybe it penetrated better, not really sure. Still have some larger veins but i dont think they will go away anytime soon!

 

[hopeforrecovery]

I really would like to hear @Area-1255 's opinion about my situation. If he thinks if i should go on with the DHT and if the DHT could also help for my scarring inside the penis?

Also if Nitric Oxide could help?

 

[Helen]

I really would like to hear @Area-1255 's opinion about my situation. If he thinks if i should go on with the DHT and if the DHT could also help for my scarring inside the penis?

Also if Nitric Oxide could help?

Potassium softens vascular endothelium and increases nitric oxide release


You need to support potassium , since steroids waste potassium. without potassium - ZERO nitric oxide release, since NO is a duaretic.


If you have such crazy scarring and stuff, my advice, supports your electrolytes, and follow and take advice from @Orion

he is post accutane and doing good.

@Orion Help your buddy accutane sufferer here/


Nitric oxide protocol is just castrated electrolytes protocol. I think it is best for you to follow the electrolytes protocol, so you get hydrated well again and so yourbody can start restoring the tissue, and increase CO2 and nitric oxide ,


PEOPLE need to realize . STEROIDS waste potassium , should never be taken EVER unless you want to dry out, and age.

Steroids will always age you. Will always make you live much shorter life it is inevitable

The reason why steroids go down with age, POTASSIUM DEFICIENCY .

Potassium will allow LH to go up. Potassium,Testosterone & Muscle - Testosterone Studies

Since when steroids go up, then estrogen retains CALCIUM and DHT SODIUM.

 

[TubZy]

Once daily, for about two weeks untill i ran out of dmso and vitamin e.
Noticed results after about 2 days in, mostly on places where skin is thinner so maybe it penetrated better, not really sure. Still have some larger veins but i dont think they will go away anytime soon!

Cool, thanks. DMSO seems to get rid of moles too

 

[SwaZ]

Cool, thanks. DMSO seems to get rid of moles too

Moles???
God damn im buying a 1 kilo batch of dmso then lol
I got a shitload of moles on my body, they just pop out of nowhere, honestly i am getting scared a little about so many of them.

I read ray peat got a mole on his chin from putting some copper solution there.

@Helen sorry to be bothering you about this again, but please do you know anything that causes moles. Copper? Pufa?

 

[Helen]

Moles???
God damn im buying a 1 kilo batch of dmso then lol
I got a shitload of moles on my body, they just pop out of nowhere, honestly i am getting scared a little about so many of them.

I read ray peat got a mole on his chin from putting some copper solution there.

@Helen sorry to be bothering you about this again, but please do you know anything that causes moles. Copper? Pufa?

May be lack of glutathione and enscapsulation of stuff. Copper could locally kill all glutathione, I bet if he put another metal in their like iron, which is oxidative, the same could have happened.

Also copper could increase tyrosinase and form some melanin formation I guess, coloring the area

So yes, copper or iron toxicity can cause all kinds of moles.

 

[TubZy]

May be lack of glutathione and enscapsulation of stuff.

Arent moles technically a fungus?

 

[Helen]

Arent moles technically a fungus?

some of them can be, and some can be discoloration from heavy metals.

Iron causes red , cherry angiomas. and copper can cause different moles.

This is why high dose b2 for instance got rid of many moles , so did high dose b1.

one by chelating copper and one by chelating iron

 

[TubZy]

some of them can be, and some can be discoloration from heavy metals.

Iron causes red , cherry angiomas. and copper can cause different moles.

This is why high dose b2 for instance got rid of many moles , so did high dose b1.

one by chelating copper and one by chelating iron

Get rid as in they literally fell off or just and the skin was normal underneath?

 

[Helen]

Get rid as in they literally fell off or just and the skin was normal underneath?

they disappear . Thinking about Copper Transport, ATP7B, and Cofactors - Inspire

this dude, also took high dose b2

you are trying to get rid of some local problems, it is like shooting at the elephant with the dart))

I understand when there a scar when you cut yourself, or a mole that you are born with on your nose.

but shit that PFS did to me, I always took as awesome, since I could follow my program by those things. If moles are falling off , then I am doing something right.

 

[barbaar]

some of them can be, and some can be discoloration from heavy metals.

Iron causes red , cherry angiomas. and copper can cause different moles.

This is why high dose b2 for instance got rid of many moles , so did high dose b1.

one by chelating copper and one by chelating iron

Interesting. I have a bunch of cherry angiomas and an above average amount of moles. Would be cool to see them go away with high dose Bs treatment.

 

[TubZy]

they disappear . Thinking about Copper Transport, ATP7B, and Cofactors - Inspire

this dude, also took high dose b2

you are trying to get rid of some local problems, it is like shooting at the elephant with the dart))

I understand when there a scar when you cut yourself, or a mole that you are born with on your nose.

but shit that PFS did to me, I always took as awesome, since I could follow my program by those things. If moles are falling off , then I am doing something right.

It could probably be more effective when use topically too and then maybe take high dose oral.and chelate rest of body

 

[SwaZ]

@Helen
So b2-copper?
I think youre right about this one. I think i have b2 defficiency (Cheliosis outbreaks, corneal vascularization) hence copper metabolism problems and get crazy ammounts of moles.
As soon as i get my hands on a pure riboflavin suplement, IM BUYING IT!

 

[Miggie]

they disappear . Thinking about Copper Transport, ATP7B, and Cofactors - Inspire

this dude, also took high dose b2

you are trying to get rid of some local problems, it is like shooting at the elephant with the dart))

I understand when there a scar when you cut yourself, or a mole that you are born with on your nose.

but shit that PFS did to me, I always took as awesome, since I could follow my program by those things. If moles are falling off , then I am doing something right.

This is very interesting. I have a lot of moles on my body. When I megadosed zinc the old ones remained but the old ones didnt go away. Does this mean I'm still Copper toxic? How much b2 is needed per day for this?