Yura log

[Yura]

@Fazed22 I don't think it is overanalyzing. Simply I will take 10% dose. So this concern of EGCG binding to iron from the meal and not iron in the body is real. Yeah if they take 4000mg of EGCG some iron in a meal probably does not matter. They will still absorb plenty of free EGCG to bind metals in the body. Btw it seams that L theanine is another big player for chelating metals like copper not just EGCG. Interesting that even Gbolduev/Helen had green tea extract/EGCG as a part of electrolyte protocol. But he never talked about what dosing..

 

[Fazed22]

@Fazed22 I don't think it is overanalyzing. Simply I will take 10% dose. So this concern of EGCG binding to iron from the meal and not iron in the body is real. Yeah if they take 4000mg of EGCG some iron in a meal probably does not matter. They will still absorb plenty of free EGCG to bind metals in the body. Btw it seams that L theanine is another big player for chelating metals like copper not just EGCG. Interesting that even Gbolduev/Helen had green tea extract/EGCG as a part of electrolyte protocol. But he never talked about what dosing..

You still chelate at that dose with or without food and also thats still like 1/3 of the old standard dose he only increased it a lot recently.

Also the life extension egcg would dry the skins of my hands and cause some liver pain at times where as the Now one never does that to me, just letting you know. And I think it might be down to the life extension one doing something bad to A metabolism.

 

[Yura]

@Fazed22 I had that idea taking that extract on empty stomach before eating and taking anything else, but with my adrenal issues it is probably bad idea. So I will take it with food..

 

[Fazed22]

@Fazed22 I had that idea taking that extract on empty stomach before eating and taking anything else, but with my adrenal issues it is probably bad idea. So I will take it with food..

You can try on an empty stomach, I don't think it will be a huge issue.

 

[Yura]

Exactly know what he is talking about. Fixed his issues when his toxic mom was no longer around him. She came back for couple of days and he started having all those health issues again. All that PTSD starts to kick in again and your nervous system is back where he was years ago during full blown chronic health breakdown..
It was his videos I realized so many things in my life. How so many stuff wasn't my fault and most importantly how crazy impact chronic mental stress/ PTSD has on the body. He basically fixed crazy health issues just by leaving his toxic mother. Yeah he stopped PC games, porn, was sleeping better, but no supplements and was eating vegan diet..
My chronic stress from people around me is not that crazy, but that PTSD is what keeps me from my body feeling safe so it can start to detox etc. That's for sure..

 

[Yura]

I am reading the whole HG7 thread
So this is how Jacob came up with it

"Here's the thing about egcg though. It's sort of a silent chelator...

You don't even realize it right away if you take it purely on its own.

And I used to take a ton of it, but then I started taking it with the vitamins and I realized what i had done...

I was chelating the iron, but leaving the copper untouched and it sort of just sat in the tissues until something aggravated it..

That's where vitamin C and Alphalipoic acid really did me in... all that egcg I took without everything else suddenly hit me... the copper overload was enormous.. I got huge kidney stones because the copper couldn't leave the kidneys and kept leaching calcium from my body.

And I suffered for years... trying to chelate copper some way some how with tons of zinc and then the bs and it was only mild relief.. and then I finally after years of taking mass quantities of b vitamins in hopes that it would bring the copper down, I tried molybdenum, and it sent me to the hospital again. It triggered a huge stone...10mm.


At this point it was 2021, I was in the hospital. Bleeding from my kidneys, gf just broke up with me, and fired from my job months later....And I had almost given up hope.

But I got high on a joint, hid the pain away for a second, and had a thought...

I've been trying to take all these supplements separately... and when I took the molybdenum, I felt great, at first, but then I took more, isolated, and that's when my kidneys said enough.


So what if... what if instead of taking all these isolated nutrients at different days, what if I took them all at the same time...


And boom... foe the first time in my whole life... I experienced real, pure happiness.

For a brief moment while all the supplements were in my stomache at once, I literally felt the pressure in my body finally release.

Positive hormones were surging in my blood, my once cold and clammy hands now warm, my eyes lightened up. And I looked in the mirror. I could see my skin healing in real time.

This was it. This is the holy grail. And since that day in 2021, I have been calibrating it every single day, until just recently a year ago I gave it to my bipolar sister... and she's been manic and depression free for nearly a year now.

Now I give this formula to you. Calibrate it. Make it yours. And fix your life."


"
Also, funny story, I got into nutrition in high school because I was losing my hair, and I read a lot about hormones and DHT and the aromatase enzyme which led me to zinc in the first place. And I've essentially been just theorizing, reading articles, journals, and connecting dots, for years and years. And trial and erroring different levels of zinc making myself throw up over and over and over again.


I've thrown up more in my life than anyone ever should in a hundred lifetimes.

I kept trying to figure out how to intake more zinc without feeling sick. Surely if my hormones were so badly balanced my zinc was low, but why wasn't zinc fixing the problem?

I mean it sort of helped at first, in fact when I first took just zinc I felt great for weeks. Then I shut down. Then I read zinc needed to be balanced with copper, then I felt great again, then shut down harder.


Then I took copper... and things spiraled after that. That was when I was early 20s.

And for my entire 20s I slowly came to the realization that I was actually copper and iron toxic... making my zinc not absorb.

That's when I learned about b6... and how it can pull copper out of the tissues... and then I learned about biotin... and then b5... all because taking certain things caused other symptoms to arise.

And I kept adding and changing the formula based on all the symptoms. Each vitamin uses another so fast and can cause deficiency symptoms so quick if this ratio is not adhered to. Especially biotin.

And over time I had most things down except the molybdenum. So I was making things worse before they got better by taking all these supplements that was getting rid of iron, and merely displacing copper. Without the molybdenum, the copper had seeped into my brain, and I was beginning to lose my sanity.


Then I got fired from my job.


So as a last resort, based on remembering some article I read long ago about molybdenum, I added it to the routine. And after a little calibration, I wept tears of joy.

The formula was complete."

 

[RebelWithACause]

Exactly know what he is talking about. Fixed his issues when his toxic mom was no longer around him. She came back for couple of days and he started having all those health issues again. All that PTSD starts to kick in again and your nervous system is back where he was years ago during full blown chronic health breakdown..
It was his videos I realized so many things in my life. How so many stuff wasn't my fault and most importantly how crazy impact chronic mental stress/ PTSD has on the body. He basically fixed crazy health issues just by leaving his toxic mother. Yeah he stopped PC games, porn, was sleeping better, but no supplements and was eating vegan diet..
My chronic stress from people around me is not that crazy, but that PTSD is what keeps me from my body feeling safe so it can start to detox etc. That's for sure..

Makes sense. I have the same problem kind of. I still am mentally childish and connected a lot to my parents. Even though they did not have a good influence on my life often neglectful, drunk, etc so not reason to be so tight with them. They are my parents and I think they caused a lot of issues with their behavior. I don't blame them for it but no doubt it has a lot of influence on my life and the way I am.

The worst is a weak father with a crazy/dominant insecure mother. Very bad for males especially. It's even better to have a single mother. Ironically. Because in a toxic household like the first thing I describe you learn dynamics/relationship dynamics from a very bad example. I notice men from single mothers often have very good confidence but are too emotional. That's the only bad part. Father should teach emotional resilience. But they often do way better than men born with weak father/"strong" mother. Because as a child you will emulate your father as a masculine role model and see your parents as a role model relationship.

SO I became like my dad: always appealing to women (and other men). Always submitting to their wants/needs/etc. Really attracted some F'ed up people in my life because of this and they all had the behavior of my mother to an extent with slight differences. Or some weird codependent male friendships even. Like I was the sidekick to everyone lol.

This is what I had (weak father, dominant insecure woman). Because really a dominant woman is often hurt and insecure underneath she wants to totally control surrounding incl. the father. Healthy men don't accept that behaviour so those women go for men with the trauma (to their dominant mother) and she replaces that missing key that hole which was created by his biological mother who was also dominant and overbearing.

Best thing of course having two healthy parents LOL - who would of thought! Then you just become a copy of them and your life will probably be OK

I also feel the anxiety/PTSD sometimes around them. Dr Wilson talked about it too "I want the program but not the feelings" with sometimes these emotional things arising. I remember sometimes flipping out to people because it or their behavior or personality subconsciously reminded me of an old trauma. It's crazy how much your body stores all the bullshit PTSD. It really takes control of you sometimes it's horrible. And the stronger it is/unhealthier it is the more you move from that place.

I even sometimes see it in other people. Like my dad he talked about a bad thing in his life involving his father and at first he was very open about it and then after 10 minutes he started raging against people around him you could tell the trauma was coming up and he couldn't deal with it. Also a reason I think why people drink more and more just to forget this and soothe the anxiety.

 

[RebelWithACause]

And yes porn, videogames, etc. they are just a way to suppress these feelings. If you are 100% healthy you can do porn, videogames, etc. as a leasure time - but I doubt you will because they don't have the appeal to a healthy person. At least not as much!

But if you have deep rooted issues these hobbies can be ways to suppress the bad feelings from trauma. Just like alcohol, drugs, etc. Same stuff really, different carrier.

For me porn was nice because I could watch a female be submissive to me. Something I could not get in real life. Yes I had sex with women but I think the appeal of a promiscious submissive female was something I lacked the most because I saw all women like my dominant mother. And all those women treated me as such to varying degrees. Which deep from the inside I disliked a lot. But those trauma's were so buried away... impossible to really see it back then

Videogames like MMORPG's emulated the respect I did not get in real life because I was shy, low confidence and in general highly agreeable which never inspires respect from peers. Or videogames like Counter-Strike I would get praise for my skill and the competition. Maybe also two tribes fighting each other just like sports.

I could not get anything in life so I would do it through artificial means.

I don't think you have to be an asshole. I will always try to be a good guy. But from me it was a pathological pattern which stems from fear which built up in my childhood. Which is always bad... it's not even the real you

So maybe I Was wrong when I said all this stuff doesn't matter. Just short sightedness from me.

 

[Yura]

@RebelWithACause I realized that my parents fucked me pretty badly. My mom didn't tech me how to be nice and loving person(forget about stuff like hugging in my family). My dad didn't teach me anything what father should teach his son and when I mean anything I mean anything. Instead I learned from him how everything is so big problem even stupid stuff like change bike tire or whatever.. This is not the worst scenario IF he at list kicks you out of the house soon. So you are forced to learn on your own. But if they want to keep you there because they don't have to deal with each other alone. Because I can help with grandparents care etc.. It cripples you.. Especially when you have health issues and you are not able to just move out, you are hypothyroid, delayed puberty, kallmann syndrome somewhat autistic mess. Even my fucking foreskin was stuck to penis head. That's how good they taught me hygiene lol.. Sister got lucky as first child she had more of those essential micronutrients from my mom. So she didn't end up so bad as me and was able to move out befor 20yo I think... I am just like 16 months younger so there was not enough time for my mom to rebuild those lost micronutrients. What is very interesting is that 2 of my cousins are fucked up as well. Not so bad physically, but they also basically never had a girl etc.. Also second child. I have another 3 cousins and interestingly enough the first is doing the best, the second is doing ok as well. Both good job, nice house, family and the last one problematic child, doing a lot of drugs and stuff. Is doing some dead end jobs etc.. You see the pattern so clearly. Basically if the mom has bad nutrition and has more kids close to each other that next child will be much worse..

 

[RebelWithACause]

@RebelWithACause I realized that my parents fucked me pretty badly. My mom didn't tech my how to be nice and loving person. My dad didn't teach my anything what father should teach his son and when I mean anything I mean anything. This is not the worst scenario IF he at list kicks you out of the house soon. So you are forced to learn on your own. But if they want to keep you there because they don't have to deal with each other alone. Because I can help with grandparents care etc.. It cripples you.. Especially when you have health issues and you are not able to just move out, you are hypothyroid, delayed puberty, kallmann syndrome somewhat autistic mess. Even my fucking foreskin was stuck to penis head. That's how good they taught me hygiene lol.. Sister got lucky as first child she had more of those essential micronutrients from my mom. So she didn't end up so bad as me and was able to move out befor 20yo I think... I am just like 16 months younger so there was not enough time for my mom to rebuild those lost micronutrients. What is very interesting is that 2 of my cousins are fucked up as well. Not so bad physically, but they also basically never had a girl etc.. Also second child. I have another 3 cousins and interestingly enough the first is doing the best, the second is doing ok as well. Both good job, nice house, family and the last one problematic child, doing a lot of drugs and stuff. Is doing some dead end jobs etc.. You see the pattern so clearly. Basically if the mom has bad nutrition and has more kids close to each other that next child will be much worse..

Plus don't forget girls even if they are autistic they will have less autistic behaviors. There is a study on it I think. Could be that your sister had an easier time to get out of the shell so to speak. Autistic women tend to do much better socially than autistic men. But yea your story sounds very similar tbh. Maybe not exactly. But also a bad household. I was lucky that my parents kind of wanted me to leave at 18. So I lived on my own for 10 years. But funnily enough I always lived in small places and kind of just survived. Never really thrived. It was still nice though.

Then went back for a year to live with my parents because I got kicked out of the old place because they wanted to sell it. When I went back I immediately reverted to the old dynamic. Which was interesting. It made me realize a lot and a lot of trauma came up. It also made me realize most parents are not evil. They are just unhealthy... when health is down all dynamics become bad. Or at least when health gets under a threshold. Not saying you have to be superman. But when health is really bad then dysfunctional stuff happens.

But I do understand when your health is so bad you can't fight back against it. I felt that feeling so much bro. But definitely ways out of that. It just takes time and it's not always easy especially mentally.

 

[RebelWithACause]

The second child stuff could be true too. I am only child so no clue. lol But makes sense. I saw a lot of pregnant women (I work with a lot of women at work) and some of them really looked insanely weak after giving birth for like 2 years or so. While the healthy women looked like they just took a shit lol jk, but they looked like it didn't affect them much at all.

 

[Yura]

@RebelWithACause Don't get me wrong. My sister is fucked as well. She just doesn't know it yet.. Mouth full of amalgams, stupid plant based diet, runs on stuff like sugar, nuts and seeds etc.. Once her estrogen drops her ceruloplasmin drops and it will be game over. Cancer or something.. But she is working in hospital doing scans and stuff of people in emergency room. So do you think me her retarded brother who is living with his parents can teach her something.. Waste of time to telling her anything..

Yeah I forget to add that I am not angry on my parents. They simply don't know better. They were struggling their whole life like most people like that do.. So what you gonna do. No point in telling them how bad parents they were or whatever.. It is what it is.. All I can do is to not bring another innocent soul into this world to suffer from start to finish.. There is plenty of genetic waste people making babies left and right. At least this I will do right lol...
Funny that I used to think if I don't have kids it is so sad. The name of my family will not go on etc.. Now I see it exactly the other way around lol.. That this genetic waste will no longer keep going heh..
It is funny how black pilled I am. I am not trying to be. But it is simply reality. So what you gonna do. Just accept it as it is. this is the way. How The Mandalorians would say
Yeah so you were lucky escaping in 18. Now Imagine I am 39 still in the same place with them. I am really deep in this pile of shit.
They are 70/72 I can imagine I will move out and within a year or two they will need my help because they are dying lol.
Have still that PTSD from taking care of my two grandmothers.. It is like my destiny. To be stuck in pile of shit. At least I don't have sense of smell due to Kallmann.
Like how ironic or funny that is. You can't make this stuff up LOL

 

[RebelWithACause]

I think as a man it's not as important as it is to a woman. Just my opinion. My friend has a child with a woman who's really weak. He's lucky he has decent genetics/health. But I can already tell this child will be weaker because of the mother. This mother also looked very bad after pregnancy. She also influences him in very bad ways. She eats a very bad diet. But I will never say anything because most people will take it personally esp. about the mother of his child. All in all it is a NET NEGATIVE for him if I am objectively honest.

SO you also see it's important to choose the right women in your life. It's insane how much choices will create an after effect.

A lot of people use family as a coping mechanism. They have nothing else. Not saying that's wrong because yes family can be beautiful if you are healthy. But when your health is bad and you have a family it's just a bad thing you created. I see it. The man resents the woman for his life changing into a prison. The woman is happy because she at least has a family. But that's about it.

So it all depends on you the man and the woman. Both strong and healthy? You can get something nice unless you get a child with some genetic defect. And even that can sometimes not last forever.

I think in the end it's more worth it to have a good health than how you die with or without children. I personally don't care I already started at level -100. I am now content to feel good and if I die at least I did what I wanted which was to fix my health to the best I can and live a normal life. I don't listen to people who are born into normal life because they don't understand me either.

BTW I probably also have to take care of my parents. I can't let them rot somewhere. So I already know I can never be fully free. I might also end up dying alone. But I am not scared of that. I will probably just go in nature live in a tent and who knows I hope one day my heart stops beating. Rather not a painful slow death. And if you are on your death bed mentally you are already alone. Since you are the one that is dying

Not saying this is the best for everyone. But some people don't have these choices unless you accept to be with people who are not good for you

 

[Yura]

@RebelWithACause we can only hope that our parents die fast. It is best for everyone. Stroke, heart attack during the sleep.. My both grandmothers were super healthy. That good old genetics. So they were 90+ no health issues just the body was slowly giving up. There is nothing worse than that. I fucked me mentally like crazy to taking care of them.. I really don't know how people do this for a job. I would kill myself doing job like that.. Which I probably will anyway to be honest if I don't die unexpectedly.. But it depends on what will be going on. Like if I have cancer everywhere and I know that that's game over I would rather have some tools to end it. I like the idea having nice last meal, taste some expensive cigar and drink and just swallow a barrel. That is some alpha male shit right there.. heh

 

[RebelWithACause]

@RebelWithACause we can only hope that our parents die fast. It is best for everyone. Stroke, heart attack during the sleep.. My both grandmothers were super healthy. That good old genetics. So they were 90+ no health issues just the body was slowly giving up. There is nothing worse than that. I fucked me mentally like crazy to taking care of them.. I really don't know how people do this for a job. I would kill myself doing job like that..

I mean even for yourself a heart attack during sleep is the best way to go. Give me that over some crazy long death bed/illness/etc. Damn! I respect it though you took care of your grandparents. That's old school. My parents put their parents in a rest home ironically. But I can't do it. I saw my grandmother sometimes got treated badly there and people that work in rest homes look like they don't give a shit. I just can't do it. Even though my parents are dysfunctional, they never physically abused me and truth be told they always tried to help me in their way. It's just that they were dysfunctional as a family, not good solid groundwork.

 

[Yura]

@RebelWithACause sad thing is they died in hospital without us around them. They just were home before we couldn't take care of them anymore. Also I didn't have a choice. I was home they were in the same place so you just help take care of them. I will not gonna pretend that I would take care of them if they were in different place.. I was fucked up as well. Was the time I was taking steroids. Yeah dying in hospital or some rest home is really sad. I would say much more sad than ending your life on your terms..
But you see it all the time people just put their parents away and keep living normal life like really? You can go to bed without thinking that your mother or father is somewhere alone treated badly probably by some strangers their last moments? That's so fucked up. Like why you are making kids when they do this to you and the end.. I like how in third world countries, some cultures they all live together 2-3 generations. They have no stuff, but they have each other and live that simple close to nature life. Was always envy those people while watching documentaries even as a kid..

 

[Yura]

And yes porn, videogames, etc. they are just a way to suppress these feelings. If you are 100% healthy you can do porn, videogames, etc. as a leasure time - but I doubt you will because they don't have the appeal to a healthy person. At least not as much!

But if you have deep rooted issues these hobbies can be ways to suppress the bad feelings from trauma. Just like alcohol, drugs, etc. Same stuff really, different carrier.

For me porn was nice because I could watch a female be submissive to me. Something I could not get in real life. Yes I had sex with women but I think the appeal of a promiscious submissive female was something I lacked the most because I saw all women like my dominant mother. And all those women treated me as such to varying degrees. Which deep from the inside I disliked a lot. But those trauma's were so buried away... impossible to really see it back then

Videogames like MMORPG's emulated the respect I did not get in real life because I was shy, low confidence and in general highly agreeable which never inspires respect from peers. Or videogames like Counter-Strike I would get praise for my skill and the competition. Maybe also two tribes fighting each other just like sports.

I could not get anything in life so I would do it through artificial means.

I don't think you have to be an asshole. I will always try to be a good guy. But from me it was a pathological pattern which stems from fear which built up in my childhood. Which is always bad... it's not even the real you

So maybe I Was wrong when I said all this stuff doesn't matter. Just short sightedness from me.

I missed this post. Yeah video games are great for misfits like me and you. Before kids would go to puberty I was like them running around with them outside. That was the only part of my life where I didn't felt fucked up. I was like any other kid, but 12-13 and age like that that's where I felt the difference. Guys stated to get into puberty had more interest in girls and I was still the same. So I was more and more into PC games as my only cope/escape option basically.. It was great that during that time there were game rooms with PC, where you would play on LAN or later on the internet. So all the misfits could have at least some community. One of my best times for sure when we were playing starctraft, counter strike, later DOTA. I would get all that dopamine and feeling great in that moment and something to looking for. We would play basically every night from friday to saturday.. Starcraft was really big back in the day. We would play tournaments, I was a member of a clan etc.. Like it is such a good cope for fucked up kids who simply can't function in real world.. Any other strong escape like this would ruin you completely. Great example is alcohol. We are really lucky that we were into PC games and not into drinking or drugs.. I did some drinking with a guys from school. But fortunately for me I would get so sick from it that I did it couple times and I stopped with alcohol completely.. Yeah PC games 10 hours a day will fuck you up as well in many ways, but it is still nothing in comparison with alcohol, drugs, gambling etc..
Which I learned last year with this sports betting. Great experience. I learned that I really have to stay away from all hard addictions like that. Otherwise it would fuck me up in no time. I f I will ever need some serious escape. I will go with gaming 100%..

 

[RebelWithACause]

@RebelWithACause sad thing is they died in hospital without us around them. They just were home before we couldn't take care of them anymore. Also I didn't have a choice. I was home they were in the same place so you just help take care of them. I will not gonna pretend that I would take care of them if they were in different place.. I was fucked up as well. Was the time I was taking steroids. Yeah dying in hospital or some rest home is really sad. I would say much more sad than ending your life on your terms..
But you see it all the time people just put their parents away and keep living normal life like really? You can go to bed without thinking that your mother or father is somewhere alone treated badly probably by some strangers their last moments? That's so fucked up. Like why you are making kids when they do this to you and the end.. I like how in third world countries, some cultures they all live together 2-3 generations. They have no stuff, but they have each other and live that simple close to nature life. Was always envy those people while watching documentaries even as a kid..

Yep I agree. I used to also think a rest home was normal. Culturally here in the west it is normal. But if you really look at it objectively it's just bad for your parents. But yea I also couldn't help my grandmother I was very sick back then. No way I could help anyone in my life lol... I was just too f'ed up.

 

[RebelWithACause]

I missed this post. Yeah video games are great for misfits like me and you. Before kids would go to puberty I was like them running around with them outside. That was the only part of my life where I didn't felt fucked up. I was like any other kid, but 12-13 and age like that that's where I felt the difference. Guys stated to get into puberty had more interest in girls and I was still the same. So I was more and more into PC games as my only cope/escape option basically.. It was great that during that time there were game rooms with PC, where you would play on LAN or later on the internet. So all the misfits could have at least some community. One of my best times for sure when we were playing starctraft, counter strike, later DOTA. I would get all that dopamine and feeling great in that moment and something to looking for. We would play basically every night from friday to saturday.. Starcraft was really big back in the day. We would play tournaments, I was a member of a clan etc.. Like it is such a good cope for fucked up kids who simply can't function in real world.. Any other strong escape like this would ruin you completely. Great example is alcohol. We are really lucky that we were into PC games and not into drinking or drugs.. I did some drinking with a guys from school. But fortunately for me I would get so sick from it that I did it couple times and I stopped with alcohol completely.. Yeah PC games 10 hours a day will fuck you up as well in many ways, but it is still nothing in comparison with alcohol, drugs, gambling etc..
Which I learned last year with this sports betting. Great experience. I learned that I really have to stay away from all hard addictions like that. Otherwise it would fuck me up in no time. I f I will ever need some serious escape. I will go with gaming 100%..

Yea same for me. I was normal until 13. Then friends went through puberty and I was left behind so I just doped myself up with videogames and porn to deal with this. Hardcore videogaming from age 12. Porn from age 15. Dude gaming is not that bad as alcohol or drugs I agree 100%. Yea it's still escapism and comes with those problems. But I am relatively healthy I would of been way worse if I went the drug or alcohol route.

I still like videogames and I probably will like them until I die but no more is it escapism for me I play like 1-2 hours and then done. I feel normal no escapist vibes. Just enjoyment. So this is why I understand a 100% healthy person can play videogames and have no problems. Even if they play for longer. Just look at a guy like Henry Cavill, OK an extreme example but still, an actor and healthy guy and he played a lot of World of Warcraft and nerds out. He still has a normal life because he is a healthy individual.

To be fair it's the same with alcohol. If you are very healthy a few glasses of alcohol to party or something won't do anything bad. Same for drugs.

But the ones who get "addicted" they use it as a crutch to get through life. For those it's much better to avoid it all and deal with the raw state for a while so you can also see where you are at. Versus using stimulation 24/7 to keep yourself up.

 

[Yura]

@RebelWithACause Yeah even a lot of athletes like fighters play video/PC games etc.. It is so important to understand this concept of why some people are addicts and some not.. Most people don't get it and just blame the person that he is looser etc. not understanding at all the bigger picture.. But yeah gaming is great low self harm escape/cope.. Misfits today are much more lucky with all that technology in comparison with fucked up people when there was internet, games nothing. You had no choice but to drink, kill yourself basically..