Electrolyte Protocol for Improved Health

[Blue88]

just follow the protocol of improved health, those things are all optional. And not really needed. YOu need to get out of alkalosis and the rest will go back online

You could play with NAPDH precursors and let us know how you do , since you already ordered them/ that would be informative.

Is this health protocol good for androgenic alopecia?

 

[sanka]

@gbolduev this are 13 different options or there is one full protocol?

 

[Helen]

@gbolduev this are 13 different options or there is one full protocol?

When it is optional , it says optional. Just follow what other people did. @TubZy

 

[nymuscle89]

You say bodybuilders miss amino acids
Which ones you talk about?

 

[Helen]

You say bodybuilders miss amino acids
Which ones you talk about?

Bodybuilders take unbalanced aminos, like arginine, like BCAA. and this can cause deficiency of transport of lysine into the cell. as an example. Plus bodybuilders take steroids, which lowers potassium and causes alkalosis. Test injections kill 3 beta hsd. This causes hypokalemia. Say hello to alkalosis ,

 

[TubZy]

Bodybuilders take unbalanced aminos, like arginine, like BCAA. and this can cause deficiency of transport of lysine into the cell. as an example. Plus bodybuilders take steroids, which lowers potassium and causes alkalosis. Test injections kill 3 beta hsd. This causes hypokalemia. Say hello to alkalosis ,

If someone did do a cycle or is on TRT, would it be smart to stay in this protocol while using steroids to induce acidosis?

 

[Helen]

If someone did do a cycle or is on TRT, would it be smart to stay in this protocol while using steroids to induce acidosis?

If you stay on TRT, this protocol wont help you

 

[TubZy]

If you stay on TRT, this protocol wont help you

Right, so this protocol wouldn't be strong enough to get the body out of alkalosis then in that aspect. Crazy how many people are on TRT these days.

 

[supernature]

Bodybuilders take unbalanced aminos, like arginine, like BCAA. and this can cause deficiency of transport of lysine into the cell. as an example. Plus bodybuilders take steroids, which lowers potassium and causes alkalosis. Test injections kill 3 beta hsd. This causes hypokalemia. Say hello to alkalosis ,

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[Helen]

Right, so this protocol wouldn't be strong enough to get the body out of alkalosis then in that aspect. Crazy how many people are on TRT these days.

How can you retain potassium when testosterone suppressed 3 beta hsd)) Even if you eat potassium by a gallon. your body simply wont retain it

 

[HerrFisch]

If electrolytes are the most important part of this, dosages would be good to add. I think without knowing it, people could take 99mg potassium supplements and thinking it would be enough.

 

[Orion]

If electrolytes are the most important part of this, dosages would be good to add. I think without knowing it, people could take 99mg potassium supplements and thinking it would be enough.

I have been using about 1/2 teaspoon(2,000mg) of KCl, and two big pinches of MgCl2(might be about 200mg), in about 1litre of water. Taste like shit, wash it down few sips of more plain water.

@gbolduev is more better?

 

[tanedout]

If electrolytes are the most important part of this, dosages would be good to add. I think without knowing it, people could take 99mg potassium supplements and thinking it would be enough.

I was wondering the same, but I think it's going to be a case of it depends on the individual. The recommended guidance for potassium is 4,700mg/day (you should get that from food, but clearly in most of our cases it's a) not being absorbed properly, and b) not being retained), so I think we could probably look at a fairly high dose.

My bloods always show low potassium and I'm currently supplementing 500mg/day potassium chloride (in 3 divided doses) and this has already improved things like heart palpitations I used to get are gone, and my heart rate is lower (probably still slightly on the fast side though). I'm going to get my levels tested next week sometime and see if they've improved. Worth noting that previously before electrolytes were discussed heavily on here I was taking 2 x 99mg of potassium citrate per day and that seemed to have no effect on my blood level, which stayed low while supplementing.

 

[mattyb]

If electrolytes are the most important part of this, dosages would be good to add. I think without knowing it, people could take 99mg potassium supplements and thinking it would be enough.

The dosages are still being figured out. I tried adopting the IV dosages to oral dosages with someone, but I don't think it's been having much effect. It will take some trial and error for people to figure out the right dosages, given that all guidelines for treating volume expansion alkalosis are for IV dosages.

 

[jaa]

What kind of magnesium chloride are y'all using?

 

[HerrFisch]

I was not about set dosages. But if someone does not have a clue and wants to try that "protocol", he is either going to ask once again or just buys the next available 99mg potassium supplement he gets. Maybe just a disclaimer Aim for ~1000mg potassium or in the ratio of 3:1 potassium magnesium elemental.

 

[Admiral]

Two questions:

Is fulvic acid a good addition for all this? Was adviced my my ARL consultant, but I wonder if it has any interactions or if it is too much.

Also, is it better to take a full amino complex (whey, eaa) or just the ones mentioned (histidine, cysteine, glutamine, etc).

 

[Helen]

tubzy is using it , you can try his dosages. Also dont forget that scences and tubzy used copper also at first. So you can try this or add CU GHK to it

 

[tanedout]

@gbolduev @mattyb I notice some electrolyte supplements contain 'chloride' as a separate ingredient to potassium chloride, sodium chloride etc - is the chloride on it's own different to the potassium chloride etc? (i.e. is is like TUDCA where this is this is basically ursodeoxycholic acid [UDCA] with a taurine molecule attached, but does not have the actions of taurine even though taurine is part of it?)

Just wondering because reading about alkalosis here it says in this study, which is focused on chloride depletion alkalosis admittedly, that replenishing potassium will not resolve the alkalosis on it's own unless it's in combination with chloride?

Chloride depletion is the commonest of the three major causes of metabolic alkalosis; the others relate to potassium depletion/mineralocorticoid excess

CDA can be corrected by selective chloride repletion despite maintained or increasingly negative sodium or potassium balance, continued bicarbonate loading, and continuing high levels of angiotensin II or aldosterone, and is not corrected by sodium or potassium repletion without chloride repletion

It Is Chloride Depletion Alkalosis, Not Contraction Alkalosis

So are we getting the chloride by supplementing with potassium chloride etc, or is it best to look for a supplement with standalone chloride too?

 

[TubZy]

@gbolduev @mattyb I notice some electrolyte supplements contain 'chloride' as a separate ingredient to potassium chloride, sodium chloride etc - is the chloride on it's own different to the potassium chloride etc? (i.e. is is like TUDCA where this is this is basically ursodeoxycholic acid [UDCA] with a taurine molecule attached, but does not have the actions of taurine even though taurine is part of it?)

Just wondering because reading about alkalosis here it says in this study, which is focused on chloride depletion alkalosis admittedly, that replenishing potassium will not resolve the alkalosis on it's own unless it's in combination with chloride?


It Is Chloride Depletion Alkalosis, Not Contraction Alkalosis

So are we getting the chloride by supplementing with potassium chloride etc, or is it best to look for a supplement with standalone chloride too?

My understanding was that we are getting the chloride part mainly from betaine hydrochloride (HCL).