Get this potassium out from the cells

Slayo

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This thread is based on the very first theory about pfs, potassium overload inside the cells aka alkalosis described by @Helen at the beginning of this forum, based on the progestinic activity of fin.

The other day during the so boring free time of my water fast i started to research on PH diets that helped people and i was so schocked to find that many people recovered on diet alone, the diets i have lusted in the first post, that could seem quite differents, so i tried to find the common point and i found it on insulin, and explained the relationship with potassium, that coincide with the first ever theory made in this forum about pfs
 

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--The thing is compiled lists of those recoveries shows incredible variation in diets, exercise, duration of illness, onset since beginning 5ar treatment, etc.
--It's impossible to know. It can be instructive sure. But, we can go forever in analysis paralysis.
--Although, I think lots had recoveries with water fasting, raw food diet a year +, and keto. All doing some similar things, as noted in this thread.
--I'm sure insulin is involved, but I am also sure hormones don't work in isolation and many are involved. -and of c nothing wrong with wanting to know more.
 
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Conclusion: keto is worthless unless you’re cutting weight. :D
 

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Keto= fad diet. Internet bloggers making killings off selling mct oil and bulletproof coffee via the gullible masses.)))
 

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What's that bs, people improved a lot pfs with keto and i was improving too on it

For some people maybe, others not. To me, its worthless.
 
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I never said it was a conspiracy. Conspiracies aren’t really needed when 95% of the population can’t really think for themselves very well. As for the bloggers who sell these products associated with these “revolutionary” diets, they are simply taking advantage of the situation. Hence why one in particular can get away with selling coffee with butter in it for 7$ a cup and pretending its “brain fuel”(lolololol)

Keto is just another tool that could be somewhat useful at certain times more than others. But it’s hardly anything resembling a cure all diet or anything like it’s portrayed by a lot of its proponents.
 

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Well if you ask me- fasting has played gigantic role in getting better for me.

And when I put potassium into the cell with things like hydrogen peroxide, ozone--- I feel horrible.

I think most people with PFS should fast. One or two lengthy fasts a year- say one 21 day fast, and one 10 day fast. And fast once weekly for 24-36 hours. When I'm at my best and most devoted, I'll fast 36 hours one day, 20-24 hours another day leaving me with two fasting days. When I can't I'll do some intermittent fasting like beginning eating at 12 sometimes.

I don't think consistent long term intermittent is very beneficial in most cases. Not anywhere near the alternative day fasting (24-36 hours and beyond). Like if you're going to intermittent fast, don't do it every day. Maybe 2-3 times a week.

I only did keto for 3 weeks. This was when digestion was bad so I have no say. But it appears STRICT keto can have major effects in helping body detox itself undoubtedly.

If you were to ask me what to do. I'd say do ADF, with one or two longer fasts per year. Okinawa diet. But if you want to mix in STRICT keto to take place of fasting for a month or two at a time then it can certainly help. Just don't stay strict keto for too long as it can cause deficiencies.

I would love to hear more about the Okinawa diet. Why do you follow this one in particular? It looks like one that might suit me well.

Keto just makes me too weak. I also don’t think I do well with high fats. Tei recommends lowering my fat and proteins. and dairy for some reason.
 

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Roger that, it did mine as well. I ran keto prior to PFS and it made me feel like shit. I had started to retry it right after crashing and did the same with PFS. Binned it and haven’t tried it since.

Yeah, not sure what the keto fad is going on right now, many people tried it for PFS already =) It can help some areas for some people but make others worse. It also depends on the person as well, so keto is nothing groundbreaking for PFS IMO, and if you wanted to reduce PUFA rather just fast instead to get the full benefits anyways.
 

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Yes, but it is not as good for some sports where you need energy bursts. Good for some long distance swimming. for example

So if i would want to increase my sprinting for soccer, how would i go about that? Eat a diet high in carbs & potassium?
 

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IN alkalosis you have low potassium levels in BLOOD))

and slow oxidizers have high progesterone most of them , progesterone is trying to retain potassium and thus most slow oxidizers, have high POTASSIUM in blood

and if your progesterone level is high , then obviously potassium will be retained and you will have it low in the urine.

and have high progesterone, and low sodium, since progesterone is wasting sodium into the urine.



SLOW oxidizers have high DHT levels usually. but very high SBHG since the body is trying to bind all estro up.


This happens since GABA NDMA balance is screw up. and lack of b2 causing high calcium in blood

Which then slows down the thyroid. and increases potassium to compensate.


If slow oxidizers take K2 then and B vitamins, to improve kynurenine pathway, then this will increase

1) picolinic acid which will bind their zinc, they have high zinc in hair since it is not bound and they are losing it since they cant make picolinic acid in kynurenine pathway
2) this will decrease calcium in blood, which will speed up thyroid and the body will not want potassium anymore, and progesterone will fall and cortisol will rise
3) this will increase need for estrogen, and copper in blood will become bioavailable restoring NDMA and allergies and all other crap will go away
4) as soon as the body will want estrogen , this will lower SBHG and DHT will be released))) and with your stupid upregulated ARs , most of you will go BALD))) at least at first. until the body downregulates the ARs.

5) since you decrease calcium, this will allow the body to convert DHT into 3 adiol, which increases GABA< since GABA increases CALCIUM in the cell.
and if calcium is already high , this causes HIGH DHT in blood, since DHT simply does not convert into 3 adiol))) since 3 adiol would cause calcium to rise

THIS IS WHY WE SEE ZERO 3 adiol on tests of @wuf ZERO)))))

this is why since DHT cant convert into 3adiol we see NOT WORKING 5AR in the brain. and DHT LEVELS in CSF ARE ZERO( this is why you have upregulated AR protein levels))

This is why if your glucorindation does not work , you lose hair, since 3 adiol keeps retaining calcium)) by increasing gaba


This is why going on fin speeds up metabolism which we see in @Jack17 trial of fin.
Im having shitty days latwly very depressed, but I bought Zinc Picolinate. Do you think it will work? Any protocol that you can recommend?
 
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bruschi11

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You should probably just run tei and get off all supps. Estrogen = copper and if u regulate the way your body uses copper properly, you’re estrogen should normalize.
 

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Pretty sure paleo is better for people that exercise a lot (walker, tubz, nina, me, many others).
and keto is good for seizures and this and that, but yeah... it isn't for everyone at all.

I do better with paleo and hella exercise... maybe meat and veg only is good, I have done it. But mostly around transitioning between water fasting, vegan, some meat, and then some paleo and carb backloading.

keto wasn't for me. as a kid i lost 70lb between 16 and 18 yrs old. paleo was better. (i was 250 down to 180lb).