Help me. Post finasteride sindrome and all sintomns

[Pedro melo]

--Yeah man I wrote it up... and I text myself everyday to keep track (but then I delete all my texts and emails nightly...) --something like this, sometimes quite different but several yrs ago I stopped doing Legs, Chest, Back, Shoulder, Arm days -- Although I did: with 5x5 and Lean gains and ice cream fitness and similar programs.
-3x8 or something when cutting but maintaining LBM and growing a bit... 5x5 to learn squats and also --- deadlifts and large compound lifts, first.
-I like chinups and dips most I guess. Back is strong, legs relatively strong but better endurance. Chest strength (and all) have gone up dramatically in 2016 and also this year (all were ... impossible last yr tho). I worked out 220x plust this yr and didn't eat till end of Feb. And was refeeding into April (from fast).
-I worked out literally 0-2 times in 2017.

-Near all workouts fasted unless I feel sick or really hungry or when I was too skinny or too tired (historically).
-And like: electrolytes before and whey spinach electrolytes (aminos, protein ; B1; Mg Na Cl K) after (with banana K and also Cacoai - for Mg and fibre).
-Now just TEI 3x a day but it will be 2x a day bc it's too hard to remember what time to take this all for me.

-Monday:
-1. 91 dips
-2. Triceps 2 sets 80 and 60% of max... 40 reps or so.
-3. Shoulder raises 15-25lb 2 sets.
-4. Finish a third set for 2 and 3.
-5. Back --- Iso lateral Pull downs 180-210lbs 2 sets but super sets... low then high weight, then medium.
-6. Shoulder Press - light 70-100lb 3 sets.
-7. Back - seated rows 80-140lb 2 sets.
-8. Finish a third set on anything I missed.
-9. Chest Press 85-140lbs -- only 2 sets light reps, chest is hard for me. My shoulders are too flexible.
-10. Leg Raises -- 37dips.
-leg press somewhere here.. 175lb to 320lbs 51 reps or so total in 3 sets.
-WITH inhalers --> 40-70secs in between sets. No inhalers (like now during TEI mostly) --> more like 60secs to 2mins and like less total reps 320 vs like 400
-no choline , less reps too.

-Wednesday:
-pretty similar but 3 shoulders, also leg press each time -- not when in pain or injured or need to rest. Less dips and less leg raises/ wheezing/ asthma coughing.
-11 exercises including standing single legged deadlifts and also lunges (whatever they're called... just full extension, long lunges - single leg).

So you workout how many fays per week 3/4? Complete work ouyt not too many sets but high in reps and you don't didvide it in press, pull legs like usually guys in gym do.
Do you have aerobic exercises?

 

[MNK99]

5-7 was 6-7 for 4months. Started with 3 first week in March 10 or 14th? And got to 4.... then 4-6 by a month or so later; then 5-7... then 6 to 7 most weeks; then I realized this is too crazy/ need to slow down. So now trying 4days. and some more cardio and taking it easier. I worked out 2mo straight wheezing with 1000 forest fires in a neighboring province and barely any inhalers (and used them too late). It's harsh on asthma.

-I keep weights in cardiovascular zone, with less --> time in between exercises and sets. But you need to be careful not to lift to heavy. Bc one mistake - can't workout period for 4-10-maybe way longer weeks.

-I ran like 2000 times from 16-23... and like walked 20-40mi a week from 22-24... (super fast too). ---with 400 reps... in like 35-45mins... don't really need cardio but it does have merrits. I feel healthier with it... but I have knee cartilage issues, etc, from running like hell when I was younger. Swimming would be great, messes up my hair tho. JK. -Also might choke and drown a little. --ill walk more again in big cities but more like 3-4mi a day, ain't no time to screw around... I'm likely an exercise addict. I mean ya i am.

 

[Pedro melo]

Im very like you but in a pfs level way before you are. Hope exercise can play a role since I've exercised all.my life ( football) and my masteries is in physical education. Can't live without exercise.
Incorporated aerobic give meemeess stress so I'll keep it. Yes 4.5 times a week is good specially if you workout so general as you are doing ( not dividing lega/ pull/ press) this general trainings are more exaustig also and you have your breathing conditions totally agree with your routine. I wanted to try r andro 4 andro or even anavar but I shall wait. I'm sick as bruschi says. Need to take care of gut issues first and check exams again to be sure which case I am.

 

[MNK99]

Yeah dude me neither -- fitness was like my first "good" addiction (outside of music, writing. trading also kind of but more control on all these things is most optimal).
That's a good thing to study man, high in demand. And yes, gut and digestion and mental gains first... then the rest is still a challenge but way way easier. The hardest part is "doing it" like running or training soccer, but as long as you do it everyday -- so much easier. But that's the hard part - doing it everyday. So for now -- digestive health as your focus* everyday. And eventually fasting... or TEI. I know you're waiting a bit to find out more about your case/ and what protocol to utilize.
-when done the rite amt ... it makes me feel much happier. But formlessness was the best - where I could do A B C or train ... or just walk, or go to the beach... without thinking about it.. but the discipline really helps my focus and mood spectrum stuff also and makes those random adventures more likely/ easier/ available to me.

 

[Pedro melo]

Yes discipline is very important. I just need a path to follow. Tonight again party of my cousin. Eat a lot of Kandy, chocolate chesse etc. And feel bloated and shit. But I need to leave also while I don't have a path...
Fasting I don't know my man... Its not for me and it didn't give me too much gains. You know im light provably fast oxidizer . thus it was what took me to mental hospital in first ... Parents thought I was crazy doing it and I was really skeleton less then 60 kg and with just one week of fasting imagine with two or three.

 

[MNK99]

--I definitely empathize with that; nicely told off a wall st friend recently, that no actually I know way way way more than "undergrad level" and my discipline has been EXTREME for half my life if not longer... more and more like every year. --- Prof school stuff discussed... Yeah man, family will never get it.
-They certainly can see me doing better on ADHD meds some of them (the ones I care to tell)... but yeah obviously i was super screwed health wise last yr.
-I told him I couldn't shave, stand, pack a suitcase, shower around 2 weddings last yr incl his. And I could barely read a sign on our mexico trip (still got laid but that's bc no emotions = no anxiety). or watch a show... focus my eyes on plane ride back or to there, recognize my apartment a few weeks later on bday, etc.

-Some elitist Ivy Leaguers I know they'll never get me. And think when they see me every few years super sick that that's me... or being lazy... but screw it, I'll do me. I'm a fighter for sure. There's zero doubt on my mental strength and physical too once again.

 

[Pedro melo]

You could go to a trip that's amazing. If I go to an airplane now I'll.be panicking or smtg...
Hope I can fly soon but now? Impossible every stress situation is a bomb to me. Other day I got a car ticket for parking wrongly. I was about to pass out omg

 

[MNK99]

-No Choice man... that was like 2-3 weeks after beginning Finasteride... also stopped going outside rite after. And i hooked up with 2 ladies there (Mexico) and it was
-Painful each time... and that concerned me... but I was drinking a lot and smoking a lot of cigs, I thought maybe random damage. + other stuff.
-OBVIOUSLY I was in denial I was getting increasinly sick from Finasteride. -- WE ate like crazy. Like 14 -20 people there.
-FUN times sure... but not worth it, ***I'd rather have fasted.*** or had my medical issues been taken *seriously* or prevented with better advice most optimally.
-I mean I can barely have fun in good health --- unless all is perfect and I'm doing well in life; so in death state or approaching it -- it was a pretty crazy experience.
-BUT I was pretty functional for a few weeks or a month. Like* hilarious, outgoing, gregarious... so I thought it was partially an old urology issue, anxiety, -
-Hypomania/depression or PMO addiction or something... or "getting used to the meds" --> finasteride and Lamotrigine (both super dangerous).
-Anyways, glad I had some fun, but more glad that the horrible time of most that year is in the rearview mirror*. Also glad family sees I know what's up and work hard again, but It's for me, not them.

 

[Pedro melo]

Só this night o could have an OK sleep, tho I was wakingup and falling a sleep too many times.
I could have a wet dream( finally) but I could not see how bad shrinkage is coz I'm sleeping.
Sperm quality was bad, looked very dry full of little warms ( they looked like warms) and I could not hang the erection for too many minutes after coming. Hope this could be a game changing to something in my body since it was two months without sexual function ( no cuming) also I think my left gyno is becoming softer and smaller but maybe its just an impression. Anyway still waiting for tests and not found anything now except exercise, sleeping and control the diet

 

[Dhair]

Só this night o could have an OK sleep, tho I was wakingup and falling a sleep too many times.
I could have a wet dream( finally) but I could not see how bad shrinkage is coz I'm sleeping.
Sperm quality was bad, looked very dry full of little warms ( they looked like warms) and I could not hang the erection for too many minutes after coming. Hope this could be a game changing to something in my body since it was two months without sexual function ( no cuming) also I think my left gyno is becoming softer and smaller but maybe its just an impression. Anyway still waiting for tests and not found anything now except exercise, sleeping and control the diet

It's interesting to see guys talk about wet dreams on here. I haven't had a wet dream since the beginning of puberty when I was 13. Is this normal? I have no idea.

 

[Pedro melo]

It's interesting to see guys talk about wet dreams on here. I haven't had a wet dream since the beginning of puberty when I was 13. Is this normal? I have no idea.

It was normal in puberty or occur often. But bro I was two months withoutc uming so it was normal.my body wanted to expelled the seamen. It didn't happened to me in a while tho

 

[Pedro melo]

So guys just to update... As I'm waiting for my blood urine and hair results ( almost 500 euros on this crap) my libido came back lol.
I wish I could tell you what happened... I'm not doin any treatment or protocol. Any special vitamin or mineral. It came naturally . I thought sexual issues was the most difficult thing to come.
My guess... Probably estradiol, I've fasted for 8 days, into the end of the fast I was 8% body fat and now I'm weighting 69/70 kg and body fat should be around 12% and 14%. As we know, stradiol rises the more fat you have. Funny fact, I started to crash sexualy when I wanted to low stradiol by doing cardio and dropong fr 72 to 68 kg... To try to get rid of the gyno... My estardiol must be higher coz my skin is not dry anymore and I don't hear join cracking. Another good new is I feel more confident, aggressive in the gym and I want to go out to clubs with friends. I even try to call some.pussies just to make sure everything is working good " down here" but I don't want to cheat girlfriend only to test this lol.
Testicle shrink is there, dick shrink aperently its gone, at least when I have a Bonner, when its flacid its still a little srhinked.
Bad new is my gyno. Its not worst, but its not better and I'm passing the 3 months "wall" where supposed to become thicker and no medicine can help. I'm feeling itchy in the nipple and sometimes pain. Don't see to many difference when I touch it tho...
Sleeping is becoming easier although I can only aim for 7.30. Fall asleep 2 am. Wake up 9.30 a little bit tired. What to sleep more bit I can't. Before was 9.30 hours in a row.
Digestion is not good also. Feel bloated, although my constipation is gone. I can go to the bathrrom every day, my stool are very yellow and soft ( not like diarrhea but soft). But I feel full every time although I'm hungry lol so stupid.
But at least I'm happy now. Let's wait for the results. One thing I'm sure, if its such a delicate balance, o don't want to go hormone path... I prefer vitamins and minerals. My libido is here ( maybe 7/10 but still wayyyyy better then before) and I don't want to loose it again

 

[bruschi11]

So guys just to update... As I'm waiting for my blood urine and hair results ( almost 500 euros on this crap) my libido came back lol.
I wish I could tell you what happened... I'm not doin any treatment or protocol. Any special vitamin or mineral. It came naturally . I thought sexual issues was the most difficult thing to come.
My guess... Probably estradiol, I've fasted for 8 days, into the end of the fast I was 8% body fat and now I'm weighting 69/70 kg and body fat should be around 12% and 14%. As we know, stradiol rises the more fat you have. Funny fact, I started to crash sexualy when I wanted to low stradiol by doing cardio and dropong fr 72 to 68 kg... To try to get rid of the gyno... My estardiol must be higher coz my skin is not dry anymore and I don't hear join cracking. Another good new is I feel more confident, aggressive in the gym and I want to go out to clubs with friends. I even try to call some.pussies just to make sure everything is working good " down here" but I don't want to cheat girlfriend only to test this lol.
Testicle shrink is there, dick shrink aperently its gone, at least when I have a Bonner, when its flacid its still a little srhinked.
Bad new is my gyno. Its not worst, but its not better and I'm passing the 3 months "wall" where supposed to become thicker and no medicine can help. I'm feeling itchy in the nipple and sometimes pain. Don't see to many difference when I touch it tho...
Sleeping is becoming easier although I can only aim for 7.30. Fall asleep 2 am. Wake up 9.30 a little bit tired. What to sleep more bit I can't. Before was 9.30 hours in a row.
Digestion is not good also. Feel bloated, although my constipation is gone. I can go to the bathrrom every day, my stool are very yellow and soft ( not like diarrhea but soft). But I feel full every time although I'm hungry lol so stupid.
But at least I'm happy now. Let's wait for the results. One thing I'm sure, if its such a delicate balance, o don't want to go hormone path... I prefer vitamins and minerals. My libido is here ( maybe 7/10 but still wayyyyy better then before) and I don't want to loose it again

The fact libido is appearing is HUGE NEWS for you man. Hang in there bud. You can get this overwith sooner than you think.

Health health health man keep on taking care of yourself correctly and get your gut good you can do it.

 

[Pedro melo]

The fact libido is appearing is HUGE NEWS for you man. Hang in there bud. You can get this overwith sooner than you think.

Health health health man keep on taking care of yourself correctly and get your gut good you can do it.

Yeah bRO huge news indeed. I woke up with good morning wodd although it doesn't sticks as before but still. Now I'm still waiting for ocguy pro and lrebitic to take care of git. Sleeping is full of dreams although I wake up a little tires like I was moving too much. Thanks for giving me strength bruschi!

 

[Pedro melo]

Bad news. Woke up very nervous my belly is hurtih so much and my libido looks like its gone.
My blood results just came, prolactin values are 25( maximum is 20 what a fuck!!!) I need some help on how to lower this... @Helen any thought? I'm still waiting for hair tests.

 

[Helen]

Bad news. Woke up very nervous my belly is hurtih so much and my libido looks like its gone.
My blood results just came, prolactin values are 25( maximum is 20 what a fuck!!!) I need some help on how to lower this... @Helen any thought? I'm still waiting for hair tests.

Man, did you have drinks the other day when libido came back?

 

[Pedro melo]

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Man, did you have drinks the other day when libido came back?

I did not. I didn't do anything special, no supps, no special food. At least what I remember. Fuckig frustrating...the only foferent thing is I'm working out more now a days...
This prolactin issue is stressing me... I feel my gyno worsening and my libido fading got to be that I guess

 

[Pedro melo]

Man, did you have drinks the other day when libido came back?

What do you think about overall results, beside prolactin?
I tested b1 as you said but stupid doctor outed b12/ instead of b2

 

[Helen]

you can try to take vitamin D. tell me how you do.

also calcium in your case will lower prolactin . I think


but I need to see the hairtest.


Play around with these, and tell me how you feel

 

[Pedro melo]

OK I have 1000 iu of vitamin d to take orally ( pill) is this OK?
About calcium what dosage and supplement should I take?
I also have mucuna, vitex and iodine wich claims to lower prolactin. Can I try also?