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Aleksandr

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I should clarify that you don’t want to avoid b6, but you don’t want high levels of it. Read below about the sensitivity of receptors and the two studies backing this paragraph I c&p here:

With adequate B6, testosterone synthesis is optimized, steroid clearance is reduced and the recycling of receptors from the nucleus back into the cytosol after initial translocation is increased.
B6 decreases the responsiveness of steroids, as it interacts with steroid hormone-receptors, affecting their genes expression, and in a deficient state, steroids are more responsive. This might be a very big reason to only stick to small doses, such as <10mg PLP daily. So, although sensitivity is reduced, androgen receptors’ translocation is increased, which increase the rate of androgen bindings.
It’s also been found that pyridoxine HCL increases 5-alpha reductase, but pyridoxal HCL doesn’t. The study mentioned that pyridoxal phosphate showed modified enzymatic activities of 5-ar, but didn’t conclude if it increased or decreased it.

Modulation of gene expression by vitamin B6. - PubMed - NCBI

Modulation of steroid receptor-mediated gene expression by vitamin B6. - PubMed - NCBI

So I personally take b1 & b5, and b6 is found in my energy drinks so I don’t look for extra supplementation.

I still say it’s got properties that a Female should look to avoid it
Hmm

It sounds like males who have high steroids might do well on it though? If we don't want high, but balance. Perhaps too high steroids = baldness, so those balding sought out finasteride... but maybe they just had low b6?

They've said, it was either TEI or ARL i forgot which, that calcium is like a "male" mineral and magnesium a more "feminine" mineral, and that men typically have higher calcium to magnesium... which we know is associated with calcification (and we know calcifcation is associated with baldness). Maybe high steroids = calcium retention? = "male" mineral pattern?

Just theorising.
Obviously there are cases where we don't want too high b6 either. I was given b6 and told this:

"calcium retention will increase and the excretion of magnesium will also increase when b6 is lacking"
 

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I have been thinking a bit more about my case and it might be that the main problem isn’t low potassium intake, but low respiratory drive. I don’t know yet, still brainstorming over it now and then.
This is very much about the NS... I think your body might still be keeping some nervous shock from having had to defend you against EBV.
Also, if you still have some virus, you could try to take some plants. Even ginger is efficient. I have a book about antiviral plants and I can help you if you want.

Have you tried Wim Hof breathing?
lol dutch people should know about him!
 

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This is very much about the NS... I think your body might still be keeping some nervous shock from having had to defend you against EBV.
Also, if you still have some virus, you could try to take some plants. Even ginger is efficient. I have a book about antiviral plants and I can help you if you want.

Have you tried Wim Hof breathing?
lol dutch people should know about him!

Actually i think my respiration might be too high instead? I have anxiety problems when i don’t take extra calming nutrients like magnesium and potassium. Also stimulants make me feel a lot worse and increase my anxiety to the point where i get physical symptoms too. (sweating, panic/feeling of doom, dilated pupils, shortness of breath, butterfly feeling in chest and stomach).

Like i said my body probably runs too much on adrenaline and cortisol is low or something (slow oxidizer). My prog level is always high in blood no matter where i am in my cycle.
 

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@Helen i asked u some questions in private message, would you mind taking a look at them? :)
 

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I still have to explain myself better….
Actually i think my respiration might be too high instead? I have anxiety problems when i don’t take extra calming nutrients like magnesium and potassium. Also stimulants make me feel a lot worse and increase my anxiety to the point where i get physical symptoms too. (sweating, panic/feeling of doom, dilated pupils, shortness of breath, butterfly feeling in chest and stomach).

Like i said my body probably runs too much on adrenaline and cortisol is low or something (slow oxidizer). My prog level is always high in blood no matter where i am in my cycle.
1) It is not about any hormone or neurotransmitter first, but about ELECTRIC wiring first. This is what Will trigger the release of the "substances" in the blood.
The NS is upstream and is electric in nature.
The only thing that is above the NS is what constitutes the NS, cells. But in the cells, the liquid medium Works with much similar laws as the NS, because it is also electric and water conducts. You can indeed considere that electrolytes are important for this too. Anyway as you know, taking a lot of K is not totally enough on its own to persuade your body to keep more of it…

2) It is not about being too high or too low or too whatever!
It is about adaptation to the right level of activation NOW. So it is about synchronisation of the yin and yand, of the up and down, of sym and parasym…
It is about the capacity to increase intensity and be able to hold it. When one cannot stand intensity, it creates ejaculation for example, so that intensity ends up! Watch anything you want in video where you see people living intense PLEASANT events, and you Will see that what is difficult to stand is not what is unpleasant but what is INTENSE!

3) Desync comes all the time from having had some sort of agression, and EBV is an agression... Well, it is not about the agression but about it being too much. When it is not enough, we have problems to. We need hormesis. You know it for muscles, you build this with time, and if you go too fast, you can hurt yourself. If you do not enough stimulate, you build nothing.
Same for the nervous system.

So what we all need after health issues or disbalance from any shitty stuff, is to rebuild the oscillation of the different aspects of the nervous system.

Of course doing this at the same time as any program, cure, healing modality.

Wim Hof is not about breathing a lot, but using an alternance of hyperventilation with a breath hold, to increase the capacity to do so without the NS going mad. The secret is in the yin and yang symbol! This is ALTERNANCE, oscillation, waves however you want to call it. People fail in WH method when they do it TOO INTENSE. They disrupt the balance they have - the Little but precious balance they have - even more, by going overthreashold. sometimes the boomrang comes back weeks after only. We have to stay on the safe side. And no person starts at the same level of balance, so we need to check ourselves.

Yes what you describe is sympathetic activation. Yin and yang contain a point of the other color, because it means that going too much into on side Will trigger the other side to start working automatically (it should and often does not). We can stand to reach overwhelm sometimes only if then we allow the system to come back to balance (and it follows biological laws). What happens for all of us is that our systems have REDUCED the AMPLITUDE of their oscillations.

So your sym symptoms, anxiety or other physical activation symptoms, Will increase sometimes, let's call it red because it is a hot temperature, and instead of the red stimulating a natural come down to a cooler blue, they make a "purple mix", because the red stays in line when the blue comes (cold body, freeze response, procrastination, out of body experience, feeling irrealistically in harmony with the universe).

If you are a slow oxi, they have told you that you are on the parasym side. BUT with an activated sym underneath, which explains that it comes out unexpectedly from time to time, when triggered. So you have BOTH, what I call purple, instead of an adapted red and blue and red and blue alternance.

Alternance would be what is called to be "in sync". We are all more or less desync… and as you can see, you can manage with calming minerals, but it does not solve it long term. Our body does not let minerals work that easily, until we modify also our electric wiring by "non visible tools". I mean, yes work with minerals, and any substance, but also with behavioral exercices or breathing exercices, or cold and hot alternance etc. It is just as difficult to do this in an efficient way as it is difficult to work with supps, and as difficult as building a training program for sport.

I have kept searching and learning those last 2 years, and I am starting to gather all this for making a training with practical exercices. The originallity of what I look for is to introduce the exercices in daily life, because all programs I have done reach our limits about time. Also some people go over-threashold. Some people are lucky to be exactly in the range of the course, but others?
Also, I see it myself, it is very difficuot to do anything alone, because our species is meant to co-regulate our NS with our pairs! This is why people have pets…. lol we should all be each others' pets!
 
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What I said is better here…. I also quote the answers

I can have some explanation for the premature ejaculation… I agree that we have the same patterns in men and woman in a way….
I also have low libido, but react absolutely normally when having sex.
Low libido means not having a very good balance between sym and parasym.
Premature ejaculation at the level of the nervous system matches having a low tolerance to stress! Yes even to good activation... It means having a low tolerance to pleasure and to any intensity.
Actually, any work on the NS Will help stand more pleasure, more intensity in everything. Ejaculation is no more than the moment we cannot stand intensity anymore. So, this level can always increase! It is perfectly possible to have more pleasure and longer before coming. It has do do with the synchronicity of the sym and para sym branches, and taking into account the power of the ventral Branch of the vagus nerve, the one said to be about social engagement / connection. It is the part that sustains to have both para sym and sym working together, same as in play, dance, music together…
This seems accurate yeah. I don’t ‘feel’ libido but i get aroused extremely quickly like, in a matter of seconds and achieve orgasm easily and way too quick.
This is from low histamine. I am sure. Helen talked about it and it matches my experience.
The less histamine you make the more your receptors become sensitive to it so during sexual stimulation it makes you come crazy fast.

Either copper is breaking it down too much or synthesis is low (b2/b6 are not kept active? histidine is missing?)
I think estrogen keeps histamine up by decreasing its breakdown (DAO enzyme) probably by keeping copper bound.
If you manage to bring up your estrogen I think you're going to last longer ;)

No idea why it's low in your case though. Maybe low NAPDH.
Is it really hypoventilation or G6PD is maybe bottlenecked?
What the body makes with minerals and vitamines and macro nutrients depends on the synchronisation of the parts of the nervous system. The body does not use its pathways the same if we feel secure or in danger, this is that simple.

I said FEEL secure, because if we know we are safe, it does not matter at all for the body. The body wants to FEEL safe enough for changing parterns that were built to save us from dangerous situations. After any shitty virus or substance that changed the ways our body reacts, we need to convince the body that it is safe. Compare after a war, and you Will see that vigilance stays for a long time.

What Works bad in our bodies are "just" vigilance, acting "just in case it comes back".
 

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I got bloodwork done this morning for electrolytes sodium potassium calcium magnesium and bicarbonate. Hopefully have results on monday
 

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Why you do not test with hair but blood?
Blood is naturally balancing the body, and results are bad when the body does not manage to balance any more.
My copper and zinc were the reverse in hair and blood.
My high iron does not show in blood, only in tissues…
 

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Why you do not test with hair but blood?
Blood is naturally balancing the body, and results are bad when the body does not manage to balance any more.
My copper and zinc were the reverse in hair and blood.
My high iron does not show in blood, only in tissues…

I dont believe in hairtest
 

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Ha ok.... I have not been there some times, so I don't know if the forum is changing view or how many people changed their view about htma...
I believe in the hair test more than in the advised supplementation though…
i dont believe in blood tests because the body Will do all it can to keep the pH etc!
So many people with a bad health are told they are ok just because of thhe blood tests that are fine!!
 

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Ha ok.... I have not been there some times, so I don't know if the forum is changing view or how many people changed their view about htma...
I believe in the hair test more than in the advised supplementation though…
i dont believe in blood tests because the body Will do all it can to keep the pH etc!
So many people with a bad health are told they are ok just because of thhe blood tests that are fine!!

Yeah, but blood test can also tell you a lot about what the body is trying to do. If hairtest really worked that well im sure healthcare would use it by now and it would be more mainstream.
 

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Nina, the hair test "Works", but what does not really is what to chose to do when you get the results!

You can search in blood or hair, you know that it is not as easy as just adding what is missing!
 

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Man im really starting to notice how out of balance my body must be. My hair is starting to have a grey glow over it at the top, im 21......
 

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Man im really starting to notice how out of balance my body must be. My hair is starting to have a grey glow over it at the top, im 21......
I know you said you don't have money for tei but you really need to make it a priority. Everything else you do will be wasting time and money.

The reason mainstream doesn't use hair test is because they can't patent nutrients and minerals. Get red pilled lol
 

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So after reading the fatty liver thread posted by @Helen i have made up a small protocol for myself to see if i get improvements.

Diet:
1. Keto style, max 20 carbs a day.

2. Intermittent fasting, 20/4. Fast for 20 hours every day, eat food in 4 hour eating window

3. I workout 4 times a week currently, 1hr lifting 30 mins cardio (HIIT). Will keep this up, maybe switch HIIT to running because of low carb diet.

4. No vitamin supplements currently. I do however use low dose dexedrine (dextroamphetamine) a few times a week (10mg 4 times a week). Not sure how this affects my health.

5. Never done liver flush before but im reading about it now to do them in the future.

6. I drink a lot of coffee daily (not on weekends tho i dont get withdrawal either) i think caffeine intake is about 500mg every workday. I remember Ray Peats post that caffeine helps liver function but im not sure if i should keep it up.

So yeah, lets see if this works. Any suggestions are welcome.
 

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So after reading the fatty liver thread posted by @Helen i have made up a small protocol for myself to see if i get improvements.

Diet:
1. Keto style, max 20 carbs a day.

2. Intermittent fasting, 20/4. Fast for 20 hours every day, eat food in 4 hour eating window

3. I workout 4 times a week currently, 1hr lifting 30 mins cardio (HIIT). Will keep this up, maybe switch HIIT to running because of low carb diet.

4. No vitamin supplements currently. I do however use low dose dexedrine (dextroamphetamine) a few times a week (10mg 4 times a week). Not sure how this affects my health.

5. Never done liver flush before but im reading about it now to do them in the future.

6. I drink a lot of coffee daily (not on weekends tho i dont get withdrawal either) i think caffeine intake is about 500mg every workday. I remember Ray Peats post that caffeine helps liver function but im not sure if i should keep it up.

So yeah, lets see if this works. Any suggestions are welcome.

Would low fat / high carb with fasting be the better approach to de-fat the liver? Not sure just curious about this
 

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Would low fat / high carb with fasting be the better approach to de-fat the liver? Not sure just curious about this

No, its well known that a keto diet defattens (is that a word? Lol) organs
 

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Also i remember when i did the ray peat diet thing few years ago my liver and bloodsugar got absolutely fucked. Enzymes were higher than ever and my bilirubin shot up. Then someone on that forum recommended to add fructose.... Everything went to shit at that point. Crazy hair loss after i added fructose aswell.

Had insulin and blood sugar problems similar to a diabetic despite having around 18-20% bodyfat as a female. Was crazy. I kinda forgot about it
 

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Everything went to shit at that point. Crazy hair loss after i added fructose aswell.

I experimented with fructose for a time too, it fucked me up real good as well!

Was your RP diet high carb though? Thought it was more 33/33/33 sat fat, protein and carbs.
 

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I experimented with fructose for a time too, it fucked me up real good as well!

Was your RP diet high carb though? Thought it was more 33/33/33 sat fat, protein and carbs.

I think like 50% carbs 30% protein 20% fat. Experimented with even lower fat intake aswell, down to 15 grams max/day