RebelWithACause
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Lol Overeem was on some Chernobyl shit in that era. Dude comes from my small hometown. I trained in same gym he trained it. He's cool dude. Roided up to the max in that time.
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Safe use of anabolic steroids: is there any way?
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Lol Overeem was on some Chernobyl shit in that era. Dude comes from my small hometown. I trained in same gym he trained it. He's cool dude. Roided up to the max in that time.
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SO TEST AND PROGESTERONE? What about masteron or primo and test and progesterone?? HCG and dht cycles better?
I am trialing and test on carnivore it is ok. I can keep trying that shyt. I think mast will be better and test prop. IF Test prop is great and ups dht and free dht (it should up dht) and feels nice but is hard to use daily, i may get more test cream. I had some test gel (good base tho, but it is 40mg/ml it should be 200mg/ml. they gave me weak dosage, because the pharmacist is a troll.).
I am trialing and test on carnivore it is ok. I can keep trying that shyt. I think mast will be better and test prop. IF Test prop is great and ups dht and free dht (it should up dht) and feels nice but is hard to use daily, i may get more test cream. I had some test gel (good base tho, but it is 40mg/ml it should be 200mg/ml. they gave me weak dosage, because the pharmacist is a troll.).
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Can you summarize why Test plus progesterone? (The latter would also help myelin in my case). I have notes where Helen also suggested Test plus thyroid because flavoring would help estrogen production and thus mobilize copper. The thyroid would help carry it out.
When I took progest e (progesterone) in the past it seemed to hypnotise certain strangers I came in contact with (men and women), for example I was in a shop and this guy who was with another guy just stopped what he was doing and started staring at me in a trance like state then said sorry as I walked past him as he thought he was in the way and said sorry. Then when I was in the gym on progest e, the hottest girl there kept looking over to me constantly even though I looked like shit that day and people in my gym aren't really looking at each other much and just focused on their own thing. Anyway it was very weird it seems to confuse/mesmerise certain people you come in contact with I didn't have this experience from anything else. The progest e is also not like when I take TEI where Im getting tons of female attention, its much less female attention than TEI and also different as the progest e actually seems to put some people in a trance like state around me lol.
Progesterone is the pregnancy hormone so maybe thats why it confuses some people I come in contact with
But yeah I like how progesterone made me feel, very relaxed gets rid of all excess glutamate and excitotoxicty, just it seems to be bad for my liver so I don't take it now
Progesterone is the pregnancy hormone so maybe thats why it confuses some people I come in contact with
But yeah I like how progesterone made me feel, very relaxed gets rid of all excess glutamate and excitotoxicty, just it seems to be bad for my liver so I don't take it now
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I took it early on, it didn't do much if anything for me, but ru, randro / 4andro (together in a cycle, test and estrog compound being 4andro, dht compound being r-andro), helped a lot more.
In different chemistries it would help. I am not sure if I should bother with hormones at all, probably not. But, If I don't want to do TEI those are options. I did tei after helpful hormones (for me).
I only really touched test etc after injury and probably because I didn't want to feel I'm going backwards, and having to do TEI again. TEI was curing everything for me... but fasting and all laid the groundwork for it. Now I am sure I would get detox reactions, I didn't get too many, or they were subtle but I only did 1 or 2 cycles. It was easily sustainable and it did make me feel pretty good but I felt like surely fasting and exercising like hell and gaining tons of strength --with the herbs, randro/4andro, helped more. I wanted to take a break, only take PCT (natural tho) and I did that. Then get anavar.. but I ended up getting anavar years later.
Even tho I am worse shape now, probably TEI would help a lot.
In different chemistries it would help. I am not sure if I should bother with hormones at all, probably not. But, If I don't want to do TEI those are options. I did tei after helpful hormones (for me).
I only really touched test etc after injury and probably because I didn't want to feel I'm going backwards, and having to do TEI again. TEI was curing everything for me... but fasting and all laid the groundwork for it. Now I am sure I would get detox reactions, I didn't get too many, or they were subtle but I only did 1 or 2 cycles. It was easily sustainable and it did make me feel pretty good but I felt like surely fasting and exercising like hell and gaining tons of strength --with the herbs, randro/4andro, helped more. I wanted to take a break, only take PCT (natural tho) and I did that. Then get anavar.. but I ended up getting anavar years later.
Even tho I am worse shape now, probably TEI would help a lot.
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I have a cachectic situation at the muscular level but I should also support collagen/elastin/hyaluronic acid for tendons ligaments cartilage. C and glycine should help, also MSM, glucosamine. As bio identical at this point I would do injectable testosterone plus progesterone for Neurosteroids or primbolan with pregnenolone for estrogen and neurosteroids. Just a guess the problem arises as always in the suspension.
I experienced exactly the same sensations with progesterone in drops of Haidut only 1.7mg but I did not know yet the relationships with zinc and cortisol so maybe I should reevaluate these aspects. I searched for Helen's messages here but they are scattered and I can't understand what progesterone does in use and when you come out on Zinc, cortisol, estrogen.
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Good info bro @highserotonin90. Pregnenoline topical cream or in dermacrine ok? that and Primo, you think? Test prop and progesterone cream everyday could be even better tho perhaps.
Why primo exactly? Primo is a great dht derivative from my understanding.. that and estrogen will still be anabolic. No test base in this combination is required? This is for PFS?
I guess I could buy primo, primo, and progesterone, and pregnenolone. Sooner than later. Test cream and progesterone cream or Haidut's would be good. Maybe test enanthate I have remaining can be used with progesterone and I guess if I was dosing it 2x a week, try that and progesterone daily? Test cream/ test prop are daily medicines.
Dermacrine has DHEA and pregnenolone but perhaps not enough. IML dermacrine topical solution.
Test and prog / Primo and Pregnenolone sound like good ideas.
Test cream and prog ideally for me or Mast/Pregnenolone possible?
Mast I can get, the UGL I use has Primo on backorder for months and months.
You think these are forever things if used... or more like cycle em maybe 8-12 weeks if a person tolerates it. I might try this stuff soon. Because medium lasting esters like Cyp and Enanthate aren't helping a ton.
I think I feel better without them and without dex even to an extent on carnivore. But Carnivore leaves something to be desired and a lot of that is hormones. That and a proper hormone trial, rather than just test en. should fair better. Keep that up, then TEI balance more.. Maybe I'll take test cream/ prog or mast/prgenenolone (plus or minus test cream).
Test cream and DHT cream aren't options?
Or just test cream and HCG? (TEST cream compounded ups 5AR a lot). That and it being diurnal is why I want to try that rather than test injections. But If it doesn't work, I'd be open to trying these other combos.
Helen's messages are scattered often but yes, many are really helpful and a lot we need figure out on our own (I think this is true for any chronic illness), there's a lot of info out there.
And I think more anecdotal info, and evidence. There are more videos than ever and many old studies on things like steroids and nutrition/ minerals and vitamins affecting diseases.
Why primo exactly? Primo is a great dht derivative from my understanding.. that and estrogen will still be anabolic. No test base in this combination is required? This is for PFS?
I guess I could buy primo, primo, and progesterone, and pregnenolone. Sooner than later. Test cream and progesterone cream or Haidut's would be good. Maybe test enanthate I have remaining can be used with progesterone and I guess if I was dosing it 2x a week, try that and progesterone daily? Test cream/ test prop are daily medicines.
Dermacrine has DHEA and pregnenolone but perhaps not enough. IML dermacrine topical solution.
Test and prog / Primo and Pregnenolone sound like good ideas.
Test cream and prog ideally for me or Mast/Pregnenolone possible?
Mast I can get, the UGL I use has Primo on backorder for months and months.
You think these are forever things if used... or more like cycle em maybe 8-12 weeks if a person tolerates it. I might try this stuff soon. Because medium lasting esters like Cyp and Enanthate aren't helping a ton.
I think I feel better without them and without dex even to an extent on carnivore. But Carnivore leaves something to be desired and a lot of that is hormones. That and a proper hormone trial, rather than just test en. should fair better. Keep that up, then TEI balance more.. Maybe I'll take test cream/ prog or mast/prgenenolone (plus or minus test cream).
Test cream and DHT cream aren't options?
Or just test cream and HCG? (TEST cream compounded ups 5AR a lot). That and it being diurnal is why I want to try that rather than test injections. But If it doesn't work, I'd be open to trying these other combos.
Helen's messages are scattered often but yes, many are really helpful and a lot we need figure out on our own (I think this is true for any chronic illness), there's a lot of info out there.
And I think more anecdotal info, and evidence. There are more videos than ever and many old studies on things like steroids and nutrition/ minerals and vitamins affecting diseases.