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Russel Brand? I dont know much about him , but I always thought he was gay. He talks non stop. He even looks gay. Why would you say he is alpha?

Alpha male is Federer. as an example. Dwayne Johnson.
 

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GAY ENUFF TO BANK KATI PERRY THO.
Federer is a good guy, Fuck Nadal and his power. He's great too tho.
JOKERVICH is funny at times...the crazy mofo.

Come on @Helen, next you'll say this guy's gay too...
 

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Because the guy in the video you posted said so. Or at least he quoted a guy who mentioned both Hulse and him as alpha males and later Hulse said there's a lot of femininity in being alpha, which can be clearly seen in Brand for example. Also see my EDIT in my previous post. How would you even define being balanced? I assume having a balanced mineral ratio?

I think Elliot got it slightly wrong. Yes alpha is balance ying and yang. But you dont have to be a woman like this Russel Brand is.

Dwayne johnson has a lot of feminine traits, like kindness, cares about people you can see it in his nature. This russel Brand is insane. Jesus Christ is not comparable to this clown.

same as Federer, he is very modest, nice guy everyone loves him and he dominates only when needed.



balanced, cortisol = adrenaline. This is balanced to me. Steroids to Nitric oxide levels= balanced. sodium in the cell is balanced with potassium, copper with zinc. Only in balance a person can have a maximum power. Since we are just a battery.

And people taking stuff, just unbalance this battery and you get weak. this is why it is crucial for a person to study his bodychemistry

Since for one person taking test will make them stronger, for another person it will make them weaker.

For one person slowing down metabolism will make them stronger battery , and for another weaker
 
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It's funny you're both overly critical of steroids and then say Dwayne Johnson is the prime example of an alpha. That dude is MOST likely on steroids. I doubt your definition of having some feminine traits and being strong is the best indicator of being alpha and balanced. Most people who are on steroids are friendly, laid-back and relaxed. (It depends on the steroids of course, some make you absolutely crazy). And they're probably not balanced according to your parameters.

As for the balance the issue I have is: We're not talking about a single person! Of course one who is optimally balanced is stronger than the very same person who's not balanced, I think that'd be obvious. Basically you're a better version of yourself when you're optimally balanced. But that doesn't mean one who might be more balanced according to your parameters must be stronger than one who's less balanced.

this is called genetics and genetics is nothing but balance.

you are born with a certain balance and you live wiht it. you change that balance you become totally different person.

like from skinny little scared dude, you can become aggresive bulked up hulk. In a matter of a year.

It is a battery, if sugar system is balanced in some person he will always be stronger than another person, and will develop muscles without even working out.


As far as steroids. As I am saying for one person anabolic part makes them stronger. in another person catabolic part makes them stronger and more muscular. since catabolic part provides nitric oxide, and without it , all steroids that you take are just worthless, and harmful.

Being alpha has nothing to do your muscles, or roids. It is in your brain. the ability of brain and power to combine in the moment.

If you run on adrenaline that is impossible to do, if you run on cortisol you will think too much and act too little

YOU CANT NOT GET STRONGER THAN YOUR UPPER LIMIT-

NO MATTER WHAT YOU TAKE. SO your personal maximum strength is in your BALANCE

SO taking steroids or this or that, will NEVER EVER make you stronger than your personal BALANCE


If a person is balanced in most cases from childhood they will grow up balanced , like perfect muscle tone, perfect nervous system perfect this or that.

Steroids are just releasers of nitric oxide. they do nothing else.

So to have constant release of nitric oxide you have to produce it first. And then release it. So if your steroids levels are too high, or you put too many of them inside of you. you run low on nitric oxide since it releases it too fast. you run on high release and then low release for long times.



And the balanced guy will have constant release of nitric oxide , balanced, and this constant release can grow a lot more muscle.
Only alpha is not interested in muscle, Alpha is interested in sports, in interesting things. Not bodybuilding or steroids LOL

Those are for tetha males


can a tetha male balance himself into being alpha. YEs, but that is a balance, and you need to get to balance, not to take some anabolics randomly

You need to find where you weaknesses are and support that system in the perfect balance.

But people dont do it, they take stupid steroids, and go from tetha to BETA. and then they think they are alpha LOL , when they cant even run 100 meters without heavy breathing.

I deal with athletes all the time, I was a pro athlete myself. I see what they do and how they do it.

Especially young stupid kids 18-22 years old. taking test 500mg a week )) looking like shit, and have zero endurance. all for building muscle LOL

Since this stupid society does not get that max strength is not in the muscle mass. but in sugar regulation.

All pro athletes know this ))
 
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Being alpha is not about muscles, or strength or whatever, in most cases it is your brain. If you have a bad neural network in your brain. NOTHING Will help you , you wil be just too slow. you will be stupid, not alpha,

SO alpha is the most developed neural network, which then will control everything and adapt to everything.

to have this neural network you need good balance and good sugar metabolism

You dont have to be a nerd. Nerds are the ones who just train their network more often. But alpha males has the neural network given to him from birth which is already more developed than others. That is alpha.

And you guys look at going backwards to the past to animals and call that alpha? LOL that is funny IMO


Some alpha males dont even care about stupid muscles or training . they are dominant, like Warren Buffet, Bill Gates, who are the best at what they do.

Like federer. like Christiano Ronaldu etc.

But people think of alpha males as some hulks with steroids and attitude? that is insane. Those are security guards at 7 eleven. since their neural network tells them that they need muscles to get ahead, and that neural network is right, since they dont have anything else.

this is why if you get people like Dwayne Johnson who has everything, it is rare.
 
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I didnt say being alpha is about strength. I said a strong guy no matter if he fits your alpha mental state description or not can smash someone with an alpha mindset all day long if he's not strong. But I don't think there's any point to discuss this further. We mostly agree on everything anyway. Most points you make I don't have an issue with. I don't like testosterone or steroids as well and professional bodybuilders are a joke, I agree. They aren't functional at all, they can't even turn around.

I experimented with some smaller steroids, mostly to see what they do (they mostly didn't do anything, neither positive nor negative) but I wouldn't take test or heavier shit. I just didn't like the oversimplifications you make/made.


a male with alpha mind set who physically chose not to develop muscle will never allow some strong guy to smack him. That strong man will be scared shitless of the alpha male. YOU simply cant not be weaker when you are alpha, your system from birth are working properly , you grow muscle just like that and you are big and you are strong.


good example of alpha is Arnold in the movie TWINS. the character not the bodybuilder Arnold.

I am telling you , when I was in highschool, we had bullies like everywhere else, they went to the gym , they were loud and obnoxious,

but there were 2-3 guys in the class, who were super quiet , smaller , always did things, did not talk much. etc were professional sport people. like boxing, swimming skiiing.

When those loud males tried their bullshit on those males, they were quietly destroyed.

And now if you look at their fate, I know 3-4 of them who work as security, and those quiet naturally strong interested ones are millionaires with their own businesses.

Alpha cant be weak.
 
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I was skinny as fuck and scared 1000s of guys just with eye movements or raising my voice or the way I said something, often they were bigger.
(when I grew up, post being pushed around like a year at 19 or 20).

I get off on it too. Sorry if it sounds fucked up, but people used to be abusive towards me.

MANIA you can just bring ppl to you or push them away just for fun... NOT saying it's a good thing, but I get it.

BUT**** it's better than letting ppl fuck with you, however if you can't turn it off and seem/be "good" again, that's bad because you miss out on a lot of good experiences and relationships, just to carefully discard and prevent bad ones. Defensive at times sure, but also just so many different ways, it's near impossible for others to "get me", and usually I don't even care. Can only really build long lasting relationships (friends, or dating, or even business at times) with people who are at least in some ways like minded.


*Mostly I'm talking about DYSPHORIC MANIA and HYPOMANIA and RAPID CYCLING, rather than giddy, giggly, love everyone, evervescent, life of the party, fun guy mania.
I Have been both... 1's better for attracting winners. Dangerous tho at times. 2 = lol, dead at 25.

Maybe I just view this differently bc of my background, but I think there's 4-8 different directions each of these things can go on a SPECTRUM.
---Like NPD or MANIA or ALPHA... can be so many different things.
--IF YOU want to use an instant SCHEMA and decide in 1/16th to 1/8th of a second if someone is "ALPHA" or "BETA" ---> THEN SURE, such sterotypes can fit and work
---> and usually are accurate. But the 10-20% or 1-5% of the time they are not... can be quite something. Looks and demeanor, character, what someone goes thru...
-is not always revealed. ESP in cold cultures, where people aren't even allowed to emote (usually men).


If you can beat someone down or scare off threats and charm a girl the next moment --- that's pretty alpha. BUT IF you can't control it... and then you treat everyone like your girl (no boundaries) or you treat everyone like your enemies (no boundaries), it's uncontrolled. AND* as others see this, they really don't know what the fuck is going on with you and usually assume the worst.

LOOK At FUCKING SCARFACE, he (PACINO) is 5'7 and intimidating as fuck.
(btw obviously he was a narcissistic violent psychopath).

BIg strong alpha none of that means shit... 99.99999% North americans are pussies.
 
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IF that 15 yr old is a FIGHTER MAYBE... BUT the avg 15 yr old just trolls online and can't even read. Shoving mcdonalds down his fat fucking face. Can't even breathe.

TO BE HONEST, I would not be surprised if ALL of us and girls women too (different ones) have different "definitions of alpha" within some range though.

Just like you can be narcisstic but self loathing or so self loving.... they are both narcissists but one is NEGATIVE and the other is POSITIVE (They're probably both negative, but they are different for sure). Yeah actually, they are both terrible in ways, but the one who loves himself so much and is great looking and super smart, does a hell of a lot more damage to others than the other one. The damaging one in their mind "can do no wrong". FORMER best friend, mine.
 
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Yeah to bodybuilding douches he'd be a "cuck", in LIFE tho, he won.
BE ALL THOSE THINGS (smart like them), strong like the others, and you (like you), exemplify the positive attributes of yourself, forgo the negative (unless you don't give a fuck).

MY negatives most (not depression tho or alcoholism etc), I could still succeed a lot but that does not equal happiness. IF you are selfish at times in career but also altruistic you can help others too. BUT* often, now... we need both.

In nightclubs yeah he won't get super laid, but he could also buy and burn down nightclubs too if he wanted (MONEY), hence... who knows.

I've seen complete weaklings get laid lots of times, but*** their partners probably were mentally underdeveloped or dumb themselves... it's hard to say x + y-->z.

I'm not going to get a skater chick, but I could get someone who looks likes one, but is in finance or law... why bc we have a similar crowd vs the skater chick and guy's crowd. See what I'm saying?
 
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You're contradicting yourself again IMO. Or do you want to tell me Bill Gates is physically any strong? Or Larry Page? Your average sickly 15 year old fat Amerian kid will smash both of them probably. I think you're confusing alpha male with being successful or just think it's one thing, which is obviously not the case. You don't have to be balanced to be successful and you don't have to be balanced to be strong. That's my opinion, anyway.

Most celebrities who earn a ton are all mentally disturbed and depressed. They earn a lot, but need to take dozens of drugs. Most definitely not 'balanced'.

you confuse a freak celebrity like Russel Brand and Those who build the real businesses and empires))

YOu confuse about strength and being alpha. Bill Gates will have you shot and destroyed before you can even look at him in the wrong way.

If he chose not to develop muscles then he has other things to protect him.


being alpha is about being succesful and has noting to do with physical appearance. Some people opt not to waste time on working on muscles.

BEING ALPHA IS having NEURAL NETWORK, better than others, We are a computer, walking computer with muscles.

The less muscles you have the more NEURAL NETWORK power you will have since muscles consume oxygen.

SO real ALPHA males has a balance between muscles and neural network. These days, you dont need muscles, that is why most alpha males opt against them, since they are worthless


Of course it is all about being rich and succesful. But not from being a freak, but building something, some empire.
 

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did you see how Larry Page rides dirt bikes? or flies jets LOL

He is slightly autistic, but he is alpha. big time, alot more alpha than you see dudes in the gym

Gym people are pseudo alphas, and ths dude, dominates HIS LIFE
 

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-EMPIRE = CORRECT.
-GETTING SHOT BY A BILLIONAIRE = CORRECT, lol.
-BTW: DISNEY (possibly) SENDS OUt AN ARMY OF CAtS TO KILL MICE AT DISNEYLAND despite their popular rodent mascot (Mickey Mouse).
-ALPHA ---> STATE OF MIND AND BEING, correct.
-AND that's what I mean by demeanor a BOSS is a BOSS at 10k , 5k , 18yrs old or 27 or 30 or 35 or 40 or 45 with 13-100mn or way more.
-I said a lot more and tried to quote but it's really hard to quote things properly (one line out of a whole thing, esp when it's posts away from current post) and then I write something, then I try and insert quotes, then it doesn't work, then I do it on a new post, then I copy it, and then it copies every post on the thread, and then I give up.
-Damn, son.
 

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This is why many people opt to go to the gym, build muscle takes steroids , since in reality their life is pathetic, they will never be like Larry Page. and all they can do is build muscle and say I am alpha. when in this world we dont need muscles LOL so you are not alpha, you are just stupid LOL

You think any chick will opt to go with a bodybuilder over Larry Page? I want to see that LOL it will never happen in this world.

Larry Page can have a casting of 18 years olds, and the line will be half silicon valley long LOL
 
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--YA I fucking said something about that too, got deleted...
-How the fuck do you even use this quote function @Helen? --works sometimes. ---ah it's ok, I'll just paraphrase, it's better (dependent on interpretation).
-Mostly in agreement with you on that note. LOLZ, like ya I won't be the strongest person ever but I will get mines... money, women, etc... and above all that-- my code will be followed.


-RIGHT now I'm running 30 years too early senile game. I.E. Confused-Senile-Young-Man-Game.
-OH ya that part I did say. Nevermind... IDK man, convo's getting confusing.
-BUT ya of course guys and girls who are like:


-"I'm alpha i'm alpha look at me world I'm ALPHA!!!!" all day, seldom if ever are.
-OR Good looking, best smartest ever, trillionaire, etc.


-EXCEPT TRUMP, he was accurate.

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-This is why many people opt to go to the gym, build muscle takes steroids , since in reality their life is pathetic, they will never be like Larry Page.
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---> Yeah then they go there with 5 of their dumbass spray tanned friends, lifting jack shit, taking 90minutes per set... idiots.
---> WE definitely NEED more #1. brains than #2. braun in this world, but as you know... dummies at 5 will still be dummies at 50 etc. It's nice to have both! #1>>>#2 though.
---> can't change a donkey into a race horse. nor into a champion horse.
I was gonna say "Stud horse", but that's a bit on the nose.
 
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@MNK99 the funny thing is that you have these 2 people right, real alphas and pseudo alphas( who just work on the appearance)

the funny part is that a real alpha like Larry Page, can become succesful, get everything in life, conquer, and then just goes to a best kung fu or kick boxing teacher, starts practicising and in 2 years kicks those bodybuilders asses , since fighting is mostly skill and if he has a better neural network, he can theoretically be a better fighter.

This makes me laugh so much. since I have seen these examples so many times. LIke some smart dude, who was considered weak in highschool, super succesful in life , meets his classmates, gets picked on , and boom just destroys them LOL

They dont realize taht that dude could have other priorities in his life before ))
 

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-YES NEED TO WORK ON BOTH, partly why I'll do theater and *various things* + nofap and read and travel and try to hold together a longterm relationship (despite frustrations). AND make it work, choose being good>>> money.
-Sounds silly but, I LOVED women and also people more on nofap. ---actually makes perfect sense: NO instantaneous gratification, higher serum test, better to be alive, etc.
--but it's higher serum test at 14days, and it's NATURAL, not injected. BETTER MOOD****, better gains**, better self acceptance and acceptance of others =chilled demeanor.


-also )) I've seen EXECS do exactly what you just said about Larry Page. Good point.
--AND yes, money buys better teachers/ opportunities, you can catch up and enhance / become more "well-rounded" quicker.
-- I fucking hate the feeling of always being a bit behind tho, but it's ok, I've been catching up before FIN and lately too, and it will increase at a higher marginal rate soon.


"Helen:
@MNK99 the funny thing is that you have these 2 people right, real alphas and pseudo alphas( who just work on the appearance)

the funny part is that a real alpha like Larry Page, can become succesfful, get everything in life, conquer, and then just goes to a best kung fu or kick boxing teacher, starts practicising and in 2 years kicks those bodybuilders asses , since fighting is mostly skill and if he has a better neural network, he can theoretically be a better fighter.

This makes me laugh so much. since I have seen these examples so many times. LIke some smart dude, who was considered weak in highschool, super succesful in life , meats his classmates, gets picked on , and boom just destroys them LOL" --->that's what I've been working on 15 yrs if not 24... delayed/ but super success med and long run.

SUMMARY: SOFT AND HARD SKILLS (or TECHNICAL SKILLS) and PASSION FTW. AND not being weak (mentally), i.e. Being Strong Discipline-wise / Having Hi Mental Strength. BE GOOD ENUFF AND GREAT FOR VAIN MENTALLY DECREPIT SOCIETy BUT ALSO FOR OWN GOALS AND DREAMS/pursuits.

Helen said:
"They don't realize that that dude could have other priorities in his life before )) "- ----> OF C not... they didn't see or hear of him pre fame (outside of techies, investors, ppl that are curious, or around such work)

-all those dumb girls at 14 wanted to bang at 18... but would be total bitches at 14... i was better than them tho by 16-18 so i was like FUCK YALLL!!!!!!!!
 
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Have you been to Kragujevac? I need to drop by and see the Zastava plant. By far the best kalashnikov I've owned. Your country has my respect, friend.

Yes i have, they still work and make firearms.
Lol didnt know you bought a kalashinkov from them, thats awesome. Thank you man :D
 

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Alpha is someone who is good at everything. Who is agressive when needed but also calm and settled.

I dont think its as simple as alpha beta... There are so many factors to this.
 

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Ok so from now on i will ask every guy i go out with to give me some hair so i can check his hairtest to see if hes perfectly balanced :D