Yura log

[RebelWithACause]

Yeah but they have to know how i works when they worked for Wilson-ARL for so many years with so many people and I think they don't have any algorithm. They just look at the hair test and give you supps heh.. Btw it is hard to believe what Gbold/Helen was saying that hey know exactly what is going on in the body. I think that algorithm is based on the general knowledge that most good practitioners who do it decade or more have as well.. This idea that the algorithm knows exactly what is doing every hormone, pathway, enzyme in the body etc.. it is naive I think.. You can't know that when your only data is the hair test. You can manipulate that hair test in so many ways. Algorithm has no idea what the individual is doing, taking, eating whatever..

Anyways hair is traveling into US. It was stressful lol. When I did the HTMA years ago I had no idea about any of the issue from contamination etc.. Now I was chatting with chatGPT and I was going crazy ho to watch, with what, with what water, how to dry that hair etc. hahahaha...

I think they got to conclusions from the reactions of diets and supplements. Because Watts (which was before Eck I think) gave slow oxidizers copper, calcium, etc. pretty sure. Then they probably noticed this did not work and went the other way. So to say they 100% know to the core what's going on... who knows.

 

[Yura]

Have you tested for SIBO? - That can cause systemic inflammation, endotoxemia, liver problems, nutrient deficiencies by impaired absorption, psychological problems, chronic fatigue etc.

Sibo is low bile flow. So yes my microbiome is far from ideal without bile flow I am sure..

 

[youngsinatra]

Sibo is low bile flow. So yes my microbiome is far from ideal without bile flow I am sure..

Sometimes, but not always. Sometimes it‘s due to post-infectious MMC impairment, or low HCL (which then leads to low bile) or low thyroid, or low pyruvate dehydrogenase activity. Lots of ways to tackle, depending on the root cause.

SIBO itself can also cause bile acid metabolism problems and disrupt healthy bile acid conjugation, leading to the formation of toxic bile acids.

 

[Yura]

I know all that bro. In my case the main root cause of a lot of my issues is chronic stress which will make thyroid, stomach acid, bile flow everything worse. SIBO is just down the road symptom for me. But I don't think I have some crazy case of SIBO. I don't get bloating gas if I don't eat a lot of high FODMAP foods or I don't dump copper or something. SO I don't think I have to worry about SIBO as well..

 

[youngsinatra]

I know all that bro. In my case the main root cause of a lot of my issues is chronic stress which will make thyroid, stomach acid, bile flow everything worse. SIBO is just down the road symptom for me. But I don't think I have some crazy case of SIBO. I don't get bloating gas if I don't eat a lot of high FODMAP foods or I don't dump copper or something. SO I don't think I have to worry about SIBO as well..

Have you ever tried something like R-ALA, benfotiamine or even DCA?
Low PDH activity or a blockade by PDK can cause sympathetic dominance.

 

[Yura]

@youngsinatra bro supplements would help me 2 decades ago. Not now. Now I have sympathetic dominance because I developed stress triggers in everyone around me who knows me.
Unfortunately I realized that so late that I have basically severe PTSD from my family members etc.. So I have to move so I can start healing. I know 100% once I know that nobody will bother me I will start dumping stuff like crazy..
Anyways yes I am taking B1 for many years, R ALA tried for mercury chelation. I don't want to play with it now.. Or with anything actually. Because I know now what I have to do.. No supps will fix my situation..

 

[Yura]

Yesterday I had one of those nights. When I was in bed after like 10 minutes I started to have sharp pain in my heart and aorta under the chest. Was just waiting to have aneurysm bursting or heart attack or something like that. The pain came and went away like 3 times. Had crazy high adrenaline.. Was just wondering if I will have time to yell on my parents. So I can tell them goodbye..
It is crazy feeling. Not some hypochondriac episode.. But you feel like you can be dead in any moment..
I have to figure this stupid copper fast and fix my collagen otherwise I am cooked that's for sure.
Btw if I stop writing here without saying anything. You know I am dead heh..

 

[RebelWithACause]

Used to have the same thing a lot of heart pain and stuff. Now never. Could be electrolytes too. Hypokalemia I think causes heart problems too. ARL for 1 year at least is a good idea in my opinion. You probably have to do that for a year and then at least you won't be so fucked up and then it's also easier to do other stuff and do stuff yourself more. It's like you got to get over a small mountain and then after that you will not be cured but you'll be functional vs. completely fucked which is a big difference. I still felt shit but I didn't feel like I was at death's door anymore.

 

[Yura]

I don't know if I have low potassium. But I am crazy dehydrated. My skin looks like 99yo grandpa it is insane.. THat's why I can't take zinc at all. It lowers sodium and increases potassium even more..
I use a lot of salt on my food, but some people would say high sodium intake will lower aldosterone to zero and it will cause even higher sodium lose in urine.. So I should probably try not to use so much salt and probably I need little more copper maybe manganese as well to increase that sodium so I can take zinc with them as well to balance it.. Something like 20-30mg zinc, 5-10mg manganese and 1-2mg of copper.. Hopefully the hair will arrive in ARL next week. So I can start to take something.. I think I will try geosilica again as well. It should help collagen. So I don't die before I will get better lol...

 

[dpal]

if manganese is related to prolactin then it is related to work of thyroid

Can you elaborate on this. I know mang is related to prola but to me prolactin is always bad.

Also those guys from those videos turn me off hair tests and mineral balancing so much.
Seems like everything is based on a scam. Everybody chasing this minerals stuff looks bad and keeps chasing their tails. "Ah I only need to keep doing this for 3 years and then I will finally be free and stop feeling like shit" Meanwhile look how bad these guys look. I experienced the same. Even though I was feeling suboptimal, it feels like I caused excessive aging, detereoration and looksminimizing with mineral balancing.

 

[Yura]

@dpal I was writing long post, but I will cut it short. You can't say HTMA is BS just because how those two guys are looking are you serious? Obviously they don't do everything right to maximize their potential. They fixed their issues and felt good. Looking ok doing program for couple of years. Look at their old videos.. For them it was probably enough. To have ok health with no severe mental/physical issues. Not everyone is chasing looksmaxxing. Now they have kids so "dad body" showed up. I can't even imagine having full time job and kids/family. So I can't talk shit how someone looks when I couldn't do what they do at all.. They don't exercise, their diet is probably bad, they are on computer all they etc.. You want to blame all that on nutritional balancing?
So go and do what the bst looking models, actors are doing. Se how it works for you in 10 years down the road bro.. I will not look like them if you don't have their genetics. They never did anything. It is how they were born..

 

[ruprmurdoch]

Can you elaborate on this. I know mang is related to prola but to me prolactin is always bad.

Also those guys from those videos turn me off hair tests and mineral balancing so much.
Seems like everything is based on a scam. Everybody chasing this minerals stuff looks bad and keeps chasing their tails. "Ah I only need to keep doing this for 3 years and then I will finally be free and stop feeling like shit" Meanwhile look how bad these guys look. I experienced the same. Even though I was feeling suboptimal, it feels like I caused excessive aging, detereoration and looksminimizing with mineral balancing.

pituitary hormones-tsh and prolactin are secreted by pituitary, and signal to secrete this is given by another hormone trh.
i found few years ago even some study that shows how gliphosphate interacts with tsh and manganese. gliphosphate lowers manganese, which lowers tsh, and that's probably lead to lower levels of t3 and t4

 

[RebelWithACause]

I mean dpal has a point. I always said this too in the past the people who promote all this stuff often look like crap.

But that being said the program works to push you in the right direction that's 100% certain for me. I wouldn't do these programs for years personally. I think they are best for shorter term like 1-3 years max. to get body in a normal state (no crazy oxidation four highs/lows and crazy toxicities) after that find a diet that works well long term (slow/fast oxidizer). Or do something like fasting if you can handle it once in a while. Even Helen said this at one point in his older posts on another forum that balancing minerals with more minerals can be bad long term. I think this was also a reason for Helen to do his own thing.

Especially also because tiny nonpopular/known/rare minerals can go lower in the body from excessive other minerals.

If Eck followed his own program then he died quite young (in 60s) as well. But I am not sure if he even did mineral balancing. This also made me sceptical. Plus the whole weird ass Dr. Wilson-sphere with himself being the craziest out of all of them lol.

TEI stabilised me. Not cured but got me out of the worst. So it's worth it if you are very sick. It's not bullshit in that regard.

BTW Yura you can't blame this shit only on having children lol it's most likely diet yes and lifestyle. These dudes are drinking beer at least Luke is and they are eating worse diets for sure. But no wonder when they did that insanely low calorie diet for years of course you're going to be chugging beers from all the stress. But I get your point they probably live more normal lives than a lot here. But they just don't look healthy. That's the problem because these guys promote health. So they will always be judged in that regard.

But also agree my friend who has model tier looks eats like shit absolute unhealthy shit diet and still outperforms me in all facets of life. He could probably start a health channel and scam people making them believe they can become him with his program. So sometimes maybe it's good to listen to people who might not be the best looking but you can see they improved their life.

 

[manu]

I don't know if I have low potassium. But I am crazy dehydrated. My skin looks like 99yo grandpa it is insane.. THat's why I can't take zinc at all. It lowers sodium and increases potassium even more..
I use a lot of salt on my food, but some people would say high sodium intake will lower aldosterone to zero and it will cause even higher sodium lose in urine.. So I should probably try not to use so much salt and probably I need little more copper maybe manganese as well to increase that sodium so I can take zinc with them as well to balance it.. Something like 20-30mg zinc, 5-10mg manganese and 1-2mg of copper.. Hopefully the hair will arrive in ARL next week. So I can start to take something.. I think I will try geosilica again as well. It should help collagen. So I don't die before I will get better lol...

Best source I found for silica is millet.
Incorporate it into your diet. I eat it almost daily. It is very good for your teeth as well.

 

[Yura]

@manu I eat millet(proso) had it today with banana, blueberries and whey protein. Green beans also should be high in silica. But I will buy like two bottles of geosilica. Each is 300ml and 10ml has 200mg of silica. It is much better absorbed in liquid form than when it is bound to fiber in plants..
@RebelWithACause They simply don't feel pressure to get better because they obviously still have plenty of clients.. I feel pressure because I am dying lol. If I had ok health I would never start with this bullshit and was probably also look bloated and fat from eating junk and drink bears with other people that to this stuff..

I really like HTMA because it combines the physical stuff like element balance with the mental stuff like how much stress is your body under. In what stage of stress you are and how much burn out you are. You said that you don't believe in mental stress. Just read something from Hans Selye. Paul Eck used his work of stress in his creation of mineral balancing. They are closely related.
I realized my situation from reading about Hans Selye work. It is the same stuff you hear from other holistic doctors who use his work to describe chronic fatigue, stress from PTSD etc..
Because of my bad health I developed PTSD triggers around me that trigger stress hormone release. From the time I should go into puberty but I didn't. I realized that from that moment I started to acting and basically living in fear/survival mode up to now. Now I really think that all my issues from that point 12-13yo up to 39yo which is now I simply developed due to chronic stress.
With every other year of living in this lie I simply developed more and more PTSD, more and more chronic health issues. Because I didn't realized all this mainly because I was coping really hard. So it was hard for me to see the reality.. I was trying to fix all that mess just with diets, protocols, supplements, insane amounts of hours on forums, podcasts, videos about useless stuff etc..
Now I really can see it more and more what is my issue when I no longer cope and I have to face/see the reality as it is every fucking second now.
Like I can't believe it. I am sitting in my room 39yo where I grew up as a kid... Sitting here thinking what the fuck happened last 25 years or so..
Now I know HTMA will be great to just see confirmation that I am in burnout mode. But that's it. I can take all those supplements and trying to replace all those minerals etc.. But it is like trying to fix a puncture in tire when someone is standing next to you and making new punctures with a needle..
Now I believe that HTMA will really works for people who had not chronic stress life, who just developed some imbalances due to bad diet or some toxicity like IUD, steroids, finasteride like you..
But in my case it is almost useless.. I fixed my root cause issues temporarily while I moved to the other country.. That's why my bile was working. My skin looked much better. It was not just because of swiming in the sea or whatever.. It was because I didn't have those PTSD triggers there anymore..
Anyways I just had to say this again. Will be interesting to see what the hair test will look like, but I know for sure it is not what will fix my issues..
I have to somehow escape this place to get better so my body can heal that trauma. So I don't have adrenaline dump every time I hear phone ringing for example because it could be someone who wants something from me or whatever.. I know all that is irrational. I can just say that person now just fuck off and not stress about it, but it is rooted in me deep as fuck..

 

[RebelWithACause]

@manu I eat millet(proso) had it today with banana, blueberries and whey protein. Green beans also should be high in silica. But I will buy like two bottles of geosilica. Each is 300ml and 10ml has 200mg of silica. It is much better absorbed in liquid form than when it is bound to fiber in plants..
@RebelWithACause They simply don't feel pressure to get better because they obviously still have plenty of clients.. I feel pressure because I am dying lol. If I had ok health I would never start with this bullshit and was probably also look bloated and fat from eating junk and drink bears with other people that to this stuff..

I really like HTMA because it combines the physical stuff like element balance with the mental stuff like how much stress is your body under. In what stage of stress you are and how much burn out you are. You said that you don't believe in mental stress. Just read something from Hans Selye. Paul Eck used his work of stress in his creation of mineral balancing. They are closely related.
I realized my situation from reading about Hans Selye work. It is the same stuff you hear from other holistic doctors who use his work to describe chronic fatigue, stress from PTSD etc..
Because of my bad health I developed PTSD triggers around me that trigger stress hormone release. From the time I should go into puberty but I didn't. I realized that from that moment I started to acting and basically living in fear/survival mode up to now. Now I really think that all my issues from that point 12-13yo up to 39yo which is now I simply developed due to chronic stress.
With every other year of living in this lie I simply developed more and more PTSD, more and more chronic health issues. Because I didn't realized all this mainly because I was coping really hard. So it was hard for me to see the reality.. I was trying to fix all that mess just with diets, protocols, supplements, insane amounts of hours on forums, podcasts, videos about useless stuff etc..
Now I really can see it more and more what is my issue when I no longer cope and I have to face/see the reality as it is every fucking second now.
Like I can't believe it. I am sitting in my room 39yo where I grew up as a kid... Sitting here thinking what the fuck happened last 25 years or so..
Now I know HTMA will be great to just see confirmation that I am in burnout mode. But that's it. I can take all those supplements and trying to replace all those minerals etc.. But it is like trying to fix a puncture in tire when someone is standing next to you and making new punctures with a needle..
Now I believe that HTMA will really works for people who had not chronic stress life, who just developed some imbalances due to bad diet or some toxicity like IUD, steroids, finasteride like you..
But in my case it is almost useless.. I fixed my root cause issues temporarily while I moved to the other country.. That's why my bile was working. My skin looked much better. It was not just because of swiming in the sea or whatever.. It was because I didn't have those PTSD triggers there anymore..
Anyways I just had to say this again. Will be interesting to see what the hair test will look like, but I know for sure it is not what will fix my issues..
I have to somehow escape this place to get better so my body can heal that trauma. So I don't have adrenaline dump every time I hear phone ringing for example because it could be someone who wants something from me or whatever.. I know all that is irrational. I can just say that person now just fuck off and not stress about it, but it is rooted in me deep as fuck..

I had the same what you describe. Sometimes someones face would even cause flashbacks of past things. Or triggers like sounds.
Maybe I said it too simple that mental stress doesn't exist. But what I noticed myself is that I could always heal as long as body had enough nutrients, minerals, vitamins, etc. that are needed to detox and my environment did not influence THAT much. And my negative thoughts anxiety stress didn't influence it either. I noticed a lot of trauma is often just because you lacked energy in the time you got it so your body doesn't get over it. But once nutrition is good you can sometimes relive it for a while and then it's gone.

Maybe when I was very sick the "mental stress" factor was a bigger role. It could be. I was lucky I lived alone away from everyone even my parents, friends, etc. I also lived close to nature. So I could isolate myself and just sleep a lot if I wanted to during the day.

 

[RebelWithACause]

BTW I now live in the village I grew up with and I don't have problems with this anymore. A lot of this feelings is from just toxicities and being sick. But I get it. I do sometimes think wow life really put me through the drainer. Could never even really live life the way I wanted to. It's just a fact. And a lot of the way I was when I was growing up was already showing these signs. I had very little "positive feedback" from life. So it's hard sometimes to motivate myself in trying stuff in life. But I still do it.

That being said I also feel free now. I can now do things I want to do and because I am "not normal" in the sense that most of my friends live very according to the rules of how people are "supposed to be in society". It's like I am free and they are still chained to a lot of stuff. Mentally too. Because I went through such dark times I just see things very differently from peers.

Anyways it's not a bad idea to try to move out if it gives you more peace of mind. I think because I lived alone in isolation I could connect the dots easier because there were no people in my neck. But who knows. I do know you can still heal even if you don't move. But maybe it's slower. Who knows. Not everyone is the same in that regard. I have a very objective mind about when people act like asshole for example in my life I don't even care I just block them out of my mind. But when you are sick it's harder to put these boundaries.

 

[Yura]

@RebelWithACause
"Maybe I said it too simple that mental stress doesn't exist. But what I noticed myself is that I could always heal as long as body had enough nutrients, minerals, vitamins, etc. that are needed to detox and my environment did not influence THAT much. And my negative repeating thoughts didn't influence it either. I noticed a lot of trauma is often just because you lacked energy in the time you got it so your body doesn't get over it. But once nutrition is good you can sometimes relive it for a while and then it's gone."

Bro

" It could be. I was lucky I lived alone away from everyone even my parents, friends, etc. I also lived close to nature. So I could isolate myself and just sleep a lot if I wanted to during the day."

This is the BEST scenario for healing.
So obviously that's why your body could heal.

" I have a very objective mind about when people act like asshole for example in my life I don't even care I just block them out of my mind. But when you are sick it's harder to put these boundaries."

Bro I can't block shit. THey are in my fucking room bro asking me why I live like 15yo and when I tell them about my health issues they ignore what I just said and keep going.
Imagine you live with crazy parents and in any time there could be even your crazy sister with her crazy 2 kids in your space. Who don't give a shit about you personal space, privacy or any of that shit etc.. Imagine you feel like shit and kids show up "take care of them today" etc.. Or they are building vacation house and expect from me that I will work on that house like fucking slave for free.. Because I am her brother and I should help my family right and I can go on and on and on

Sorry bro you would heal SHIT with elevated adrenaline 10 times a day. thinking 24/7 who else will stress you out of your mind this time...
So no you didn't have chronic mental stress while healing. Nothing even close to that. You lived alone close to nature Bro LOL WTF.

I was killing myself with 8 hour bike rides in summer heat or work the worst manual labor jobs that you can imagine. I can compare physical with mental stress.
If you have hard physical stress but period of the day where your body knows you are safe and there is nothing to worry about, so your body is completely relaxed that is ok for healing and NOTHING
in comparison with 24/7 mental stress.. Bro I am living example of that. My body is falling apart from that non existing mental stress heh...

Btw what is or was your money situation during that time? What did you do for work or doing now?
Parents supported you to live on your own?
THat is my problem. It feels impossible to have full time job with my fucked up body now so I can afford living on my own..

 

[RebelWithACause]

@RebelWithACause
"Maybe I said it too simple that mental stress doesn't exist. But what I noticed myself is that I could always heal as long as body had enough nutrients, minerals, vitamins, etc. that are needed to detox and my environment did not influence THAT much. And my negative repeating thoughts didn't influence it either. I noticed a lot of trauma is often just because you lacked energy in the time you got it so your body doesn't get over it. But once nutrition is good you can sometimes relive it for a while and then it's gone."

Bro

" It could be. I was lucky I lived alone away from everyone even my parents, friends, etc. I also lived close to nature. So I could isolate myself and just sleep a lot if I wanted to during the day."

This is the BEST scenario for healing.
So obviously that's why your body could heal.

" I have a very objective mind about when people act like asshole for example in my life I don't even care I just block them out of my mind. But when you are sick it's harder to put these boundaries."

Bro I can't block shit. THey are in my fucking room bro asking me why I live like 15yo and when I tell them about my health issues they ignore what I just said and keep going.
Imagine you live with crazy parents and in any time there could be even your crazy sister with her crazy 2 kids in your space. Who don't give a shit about you personal space, privacy or any of that shit etc.. Imagine you feel like shit and kids show up "take care of them today" etc.. Or they are building vacation house and expect from me that I will work on that house like fucking slave for free.. Because I am her brother and I should help my family right and I can go on and on and on

Sorry bro you would heal SHIT with elevated adrenaline 10 times a day. thinking 24/7 who else will stress you out of your mind this time...
So no you didn't have chronic mental stress while healing. Nothing even close to that. You lived alone close to nature Bro LOL WTF.

I was killing myself with 8 hour bike rides in summer heat or work the worst manual labor jobs that you can imagine. I can compare physical with mental stress.
If you have hard physical stress but period of the day where your body knows you are safe and there is nothing to worry about, so your body is completely relaxed that is ok for healing and NOTHING
in comparison with 24/7 mental stress.. Bro I am living example of that. My body is falling apart from that non existing mental stress heh...

Btw what is or was your money situation during that time? What did you do for work or doing now?
Parents supported you to live on your own?
THat is my problem. It feels impossible to have full time job with my fucked up body now so I can afford living on my own..

Yea sounds bad so I get what you say. I was happy to be alone back then so I get it. I My work is IT low physical job but I don't earn a lot it's a low level IT job pretty much. But very little pressure from a boss or colleagues. I was lucky I guess just kept working this job and no one even noticed much that I was severely sick even though some days I barely had any output.

My parents didn't support me they disowned me for a while when I was really sick but after got better we got into contact again and now it's normal and they do help me out with stuff now.

I do think my parents stress me out still to this day. They live very differently drink alcohol don't eat too healthy and are kind of crazy to be honest. It's hard being around them. It's like I always have to defend myself from them because they always try to cross boundaries and especially when they drink they become extremely annoying. So I do understand what you mean with being around people who stress you out like crazy. But I also block them out sometimes

I also lived in an extremely small apartment. Like 2 rooms, extremely small. But I liked it tbh. Even to this day. It was very cheap and I had my own mini kitchen. This is how I survived pretty much. The most expensive were the supplements. It's very good to buy cheap bulk supplements. If you can find raw powders even better if they are cheap. This is what drained my money the most. I probably paid thousands and thousands on supplements. Food can be very cheap.

Don't you have some support system in your country so you can do a simple job and then get some extra money on the side? That's pretty much what those systems are for. I would probably try to work in a store . Even in a supermarket is decent IMO. And get a simple room somewhere. But this is only possible if you get some extra money from the government I think. Store work is pretty nice if you find a bigger one where you are just one of many. You just blend in do your job and get out.

Then you can focus on healing and nobody bothers you pretty much.

 

[Yura]

I was working in supermarket doing on line orders whole last year. Got burn out form that stupid job. Now I got that facial hair loss from it due to stress lol..
THe thing is here is expensive even 1 room +bathroom apartment lol.. You have to work full time manual labor job to get like 60-70% of all money you make to pay for that stupid little apartment lol.. But still better than my room stressing out for sure.. Now I have to just get better so I can work again. but don't know if it's possible with my fucked up body now..