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Damn, ok....so for me, the best things are progesterone, Vitex and such,,,even fin hahaha
I did note that when ever I used DHT, I get large, face , skin puffiness, gut, everything, except penis gets small=to much sodium and aldosterone.
 

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I think alpha males come in all forms. Not one. Elliot Hulse has typical Carl Jung (Anima) fantasy and says men need to have feminine side, this that and the third.

Fuck off.

There are alpha males who will rape and kill people. There are alpha males who are priests in a church. There are alpha males in every shape.

Being alpha male does not have to be morally right.

Alpha males are on the top of the food chain in nature. In nature yes.

If you divide humans from nature and you create man made rules to define alpha male you are delusional. Because it is man-made. It is not the primal core status that nature would assign to humans. It is fake world made by humans.

Real alpha males are the guys who would dominate in nature. Not tech geeks like Larry Page and Mark Zuckerberg. They are there because of innovation. People give them alpha spot. But in nature they would be omega/beta males.

You can call succesful people alpha but it is not the case. Look at Zuckerberg. Complete beta or even omega (socially awkward/weak). But smart as hell. His intelligence does not make him alpha male.
 

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I think alpha males come in all forms. Not one. Elliot Hulse has typical Carl Jung (Anima) fantasy and says men need to have feminine side, this that and the third.

Fuck off.

There are alpha males who will rape and kill people. There are alpha males who are priests in a church. There are alpha males in every shape.

Being alpha male does not have to be morally right.

Alpha males are on the top of the food chain in nature. In nature yes.

If you divide humans from nature and you create man made rules to define alpha male you are delusional. Because it is man-made. It is not the primal core status that nature would assign to humans. It is fake world made by humans.

Real alpha males are the guys who would dominate in nature. Not tech geeks like Larry Page and Mark Zuckerberg. They are there because of innovation. People give them alpha spot. But in nature they would be omega/beta males.

You can call succesful people alpha but it is not the case. Look at Zuckerberg. Complete beta or even omega (socially awkward/weak). But smart as hell. His intelligence does not make him alpha male.


what nature ))) you have to adapt to the current situation. Zuckerberg in nature will adapt better than others, since his neural network is better.

They just adapted to this environment better than others LOL. this is what alpha is.

Not some denial, like I live in high tech society, but I will be alpha by going to the gym )) no you wont be alpha. YOu need to make money and be succesful , that is what alpha is in this society.

And if we returned to animals, then I bet those people will adapt faster. since then they will concentrate on muscles,

I have no idea why people look into old times and nature, we dont live in nature, and you cant be alpha in this society with muscles. or aggressive attitude, you will simply be in jail.
 
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what nature ))) you have to adapt to the current situation. Zuckerberg in nature will adapt better than others, since his neural network is better.

They just adapted to this environment better than others LOL. this is what alpha is.

Not some denial, like I live in high tech society, but I will be alpha by going to the gym )) no you wont be alpha. YOu need to make money and be succesful , that is what alpha is in this society.

And if we returned to animals, then I bet those people will adapt faster.

We are animals and people still react to the programming that was succesful in nature. This is why women like tall and muscular men. Not meek, pasty tech geeks.

This is why women like to be dominated in bed.

This is why men respect muscular men. You see the difference when you carry an extra 20lbs of muscle. People move out of your way automatically. Because you are seen as an alpha male.

This is the primal reading of people. Not man made rules.

This is why no matter how much money and success some guys have they always be perceived as beta male.

No matter how many walls you build against nature, nature is still there. Judging. Creating the peck order.

When I look at Larry Page I see a weak guy. I cannot help it. Same for Mark Zuckerberg. I respect them for success but they look meek and weak.

You can judge someone how they look. If I see muscular guy I do not fuck with him. Because he is a threat. When I see a pasty nerd and he fucks with me I will break his neck.
 

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We are animals and people still react to the programming that was succesful in nature. This is why women like tall and muscular men. Not meek, pasty tech geeks.

This is why women like to be dominated in bed.

This is why men respect muscular men. You see the difference when you carry an extra 20lbs of muscle. People move out of your way automatically. Because you are seen as an alpha male.

This is the primal reading of people. Not man made rules.

This is why no matter how much money and success some guys have they always be perceived as beta male.

No matter how many walls you build against nature, nature is still there. Judging. Creating the peck order.

When I look at Larry Page I see a weak guy. I cannot help it. Same for Mark Zuckerberg. I respect them for success but they look meek and weak.


This weak guy controls you LOL

and Mark Zuckerbeg also. You will always be their slave. Unless something extraordinary happens.

Why do you care about looks )) this society does not need muscles. The opted not to have them. Since muscles are worthless in this society.

Larry Page flies jets and races motorcycles LOL
 

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This weak guy controls you LOL

and Mark Zuckerbeg also. You will always be their slave. Unless something extraordinary happens.

Why do you care about looks )) this society does not need muscles. The opted not to have them. Since muscles are worthless in this society.

Larry Page flies jets and races motorcycles LOL

I am talking about primal instinct, not what society says is good or bad.

You make this about success and the correlation between success and alpha male. Success does not make you an alpha male.

Look at Bieber. Successful guy but beta to the core. Says he is going to get no pre-nup and marry this ho he just met. This is beta male mindset. Not mindset of abundance.

So you see that even succesful people can be beta in their CORE.

They can drive lambo and have a lot of power but still not be alpha male. I hope you understand.

Tech rules the world. Which gives beta males and omega males a lot of power.

A lot of alpha males with low IQ are in jail. Just because they are unsuccessful in this society does not make them beta male. They are alpha male in their mind and body.

This is why women also have the hots for criminals. They are often High T alpha males. They do what they want. They do not listen to authority.

BTW: muscle is not worthless. People still respect muscular men on primal level. Just like women like it. It is not useless. But I agree it is better to focus on success because this gives you (more) freedom. Good looking body does not give you freedom.
 
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I am talking about primal instinct, not what society says is good or bad.

You make this about success and the correlation between success and alpha male. Success does not make you an alpha male.

Look at Bieber. Successful guy but beta to the core. Says he is going to get no pre-nup and marry this ho he just met. This is beta male mindset. Not mindset of abundance.

So you see that even succesful people can be beta in their CORE.

They can drive lambo and have a lot of power but still not be alpha male. I hope you understand.

Tech rules the world. Which gives beta males and omega males a lot of power.

A lot of alpha males with low IQ are in jail. Just because they are unsuccessful in this society does not make them beta male. They are alpha male in their mind and body.

This is why women also have the hots for criminals. They are often High T alpha males. They do what they want. They do not listen to authority.


STOP looking at showbuz, we are talking about guys who built empires, not show business clowns. These cant be beta. they control the world LOL

You are so mistaken. alpha in our world is rich, succesful person who has an empire and influences shit. the body builder with the beard, will be his servant and will work as his security. at best

Look at present security of people , none of those people have muscles anymore. They are all about intelligence

I have no idea why you want to go to primal instincts. Instincts are beta males. those who did not develop the brain.

If people came back to animals, and muscles were in demand. then zuckerberg and page will have them bigger than others, since, they are simply smarter.

But in this society it is stupid to have muscles, since the more muscles you have , the less brain power you have.
 

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This weak guy controls you LOL

and Mark Zuckerbeg also. You will always be their slave. Unless something extraordinary happens.

Why do you care about looks )) this society does not need muscles. The opted not to have them. Since muscles are worthless in this society.

Larry Page flies jets and races motorcycles LOL

Its not that easy for most girls i know. Like we want a guy that is good looking but also a guy who is dominant. I mean, looks are still important and not many girls i know would date someone who is ugly like actually ugly, not average. Btw,
STOP looking at showbuz, we are talking about guys who built empires, not show business clowns.

You are so mistaken. alpha in our world is rich, succesful person who has an empire and influences shit. the body builder with the beard, will be his servant and will work as his security. at best

Look at present security of people , none of those people have muscles anymore. They are all about intelligence

I have no idea why you want to go to primal instincts. Instincts are beta males. those who did not develop the brain.

If people came back to animals, and muscles were in demand. then zuckerberg and page will have them bigger than others, since, they are simply smarter.

But in this society it is stupid to have muscles, since the more muscles you have , the less brain power you have.

I could never date a guy like Bieber as hes way too nice lol and he seems kinda dumb. He’s good looking though. The main thing we (girls my age) want is a good (decent) looking guy who is confident and independent, who is smart and charming. Basically we want the full package and not just 1 thing. I think the main thing people are attracted to is someones energy. I have felt attracted to guys who are at best average looking but they have a ‘dominant’ energy around them. I still wouldn’t date them though just because i could do better look-wise and almost every girl i know thinks the same way. Doesn’t mean we wouldn’t sleep with them, but relationships (for me) are off the table if i think a guy is ugly. So i would say looks definitely still matter but its not everything.
 

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ADAPTABILITY AND CONFIDENCE, DISCIPLINE, SUCCESSFUL, SMART, OUTGOING as needed, Knowledged, and WISE, and can fuck shyt up >>> ALL.
(wisdom acting on all that knowledge rather than anaylsis paralysis or doing nothing with it, having the balls to be decisive in crisis and in general, for life decisions).

@RebelWithACause: "Omega, Alpha describes them not their qualities." --> lol, again literally all of us ARE TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS (largely, not always).
 

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STOP looking at showbuz, we are talking about guys who built empires, not show business clowns.

You are so mistake. alpha in our world is rich, succesful person who has an empire and influences shit. the body builder with the beard, will be his servant and will work as his security. at best

Look at present security of people , none of those people have muscles anymore. They are all about intelligence

I have no idea why you want to go to primal instincts. Instincts are beta males. those who did not develop the brain.

If people came back to animals, and muscles were in demand. then zuckerberg and page will have them bigger than others, since, they are simply smarter.

But in this society it is stupid to have muscles, since the more muscles you have , the less brain power you have.

You are still your primal instincts. Like most intellectuals (you are one I think) you look down on your primal instincts like it is "dumb".

Those instincts are there because for thousands of years humans used them to survive. Even now you use them to survive. Just less.

A strong masculine looking man is STILL attractive on core level to humans. Nature does not give a shit about tech or about human made things.

A pussy still gets wet for dominant, muscular guy. Not tech geek Mark Zuckerberg. Look at his wife.

You are delusional if you think you do not use your instincts. You will use them on subconscious level.

People who are not aware of instincts do not understand human condition.

We are still animals.

You just think we are not because humans have deluded themselves into thinking we are not. We are so far from nature that people become delusional about where they come from.

Mark Zuckerberg and Larry Page are omega/beta males with a lot of power. Beta male is to describe their behaviour. Not their personal qualities.

I do not care about the influence they have. Alpha male is a mindset and behaviour. Not how much influence someone has with tech and brainwashing.
 

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Its not that easy for most girls i know. Like we want a guy that is good looking but also a guy who is dominant. I mean, looks are still important and not many girls i know would date someone who is ugly like actually ugly, not average. Btw,


I could never date a guy like Bieber as hes way too nice lol and he seems kinda dumb. He’s good looking though. The main thing we (girls my age) want is a good (decent) looking guy who is confident and independent, who is smart and charming. Basically we want the full package and not just 1 thing. I think the main thing people are attracted to is someones energy. I have felt attracted to guys who are at best average looking but they have a ‘dominant’ energy around them. I still wouldn’t date them though just because i could do better look-wise and almost every girls i know thinks the same way. So i would say looks definitely still matter but its not everything


yes, this relates to boys around your age. But if those girls would have a chance with Larry Page, there will be line of them as long as california state, to be with larry page.

Since his influence and life style is just way above all the boys around you. It is like another planet.

But among your age. sure, guys have to compete for young chicks.
 

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yes, this relates to boys around your age. But if those girls would have a chance with Larry Page, there will be line of them as long as california state, to be with larry page.

Since his influence and life style is just way above all the boys around you. It is like another planet.

But among your age. sure, guys have to compete for young chicks.

Yeah, most guys around me are desperate lol and its a huge turn off. They try way too hard.
 

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@Helen, it's ok to hate all of humanity, in a fair and just way rite? Equally distributed hate.
 

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Girls don't know what they want. I never listen to them. One day they like the sweet boyfriend material. Other day they want to get fucked by alpha male douchebag player. Then their girlfriends get married and they want to get married. Etc. Women talk a lot of nonsense. You just have to do you and not listen to what women want. They want to have it all OK. So just be best version you can be and fuck pussy.

Don't get married.
Don't raise someone else's kid.
Don't be a slave for women.

And you will do fine.

Good luck young padawan. LOL
 

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Girls don't know what they want. I never listen to them. One day they like the sweet boyfriend material. Other day they want to get fucked by alpha male douchebag player. Then their girlfriends get married and they want to get married. Etc. Women talk a lot of nonsense. You just have to do you and not listen to what women want. They want to have it all OK. So just be best version you can be and fuck pussy.

deep down every girl wants the same thing tho.
 

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deep down every girl wants the same thing tho.

Girls want to get dicked right. If you dick her right you will have her. Maybe create some drama here and there to keep it fresh. For example just disappear for 2 weeks without saying anything.
 

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@RebelWithACause alpha is the mindset. and they do have that mind set. This is how they built their empire , they went and competed with other people and WON.

I will never agree with you , that some stupid arrogant bodybuilder is alpha, LOL . that is insane. he is loser, who makes less than 1 mln a year LOL

total failure . In this society we males compete in wealth. that is the competition. and people who fail in that competition usually go to the gym . This is what i noticed personally.
 

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@RebelWithACause alpha is the mindset. and they do have that mind set. This is how they built their empire , they went and competed with other people and WON.

I will never agree with you , that some stupid arrogant bodybuilder is alpha, LOL . that is insane. he is loser, who makes less than 1 mln a year LOL

total failure . In this society we males compete in wealth. that is the competition. and people who fail in that competition usually go to the gym . This is what i noticed personally.

Yea you have good points. I just disagree on defining alpha male. I think males do compete now with wealth. But you will be seen as provider by women. Alpha male will give raw attraction to woman. Provider will be attractive because you have security for her. It is a business deal. Not raw attraction.

THERE are rich alpha males. But Mark Zuckerberg and Larry Page are not one of them.

Same goes for guy like Mark Zuckerberg. Women will not see him as alpha male. They will see him as a provider and a ticket to "fancy meals, scuba diving and driving lambo".