Carnivore Diet

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The guy on the right for sure, but they still seem pretty healthy. Could be former steroid users. Shawn Baker still sets world records at like 58 regardless and his sport is tested. He's a bone surgeon bro and 6'6.
He has been working out like crazy for decades. IN his talks, he doesn't come across as a steroid user at all. The guy on the left, IDK but maybe. A lot of people are, people that look way worse than all these guys.

Natural I can be 185-190lbs but crazier definition with some gear (even in just recovering pfs or in well lets say for anxiety and depression, if it works for that and that's a pretty big if).
More for fine tuning after a lot of hard work for a long time. As a treat. Carnivore will get me vascular if I continue and lean again and I really hope help anxiety and depression associated with ongoing
chronic health issues (like PFS). Both by increasing neurosteroids(I mean why not, it does so many other things -- thru mitophagy and autophagy I think). And through motivation to do more things.

The issue is I mess up day 8 day 9...day 7x 3 maybe 4 times... but I will try my best not to cheat. IF I was on my own minerals now, or TEI... it'd be easier.
IF I didn't have to fight myself to say "yes or no" to Dex (ADHD), easier perhaps. BUT I think I'd stay on easier. I was doing well... like 199-200lbs now 203 202.. and was 206 all yday after cheating.
Pre cheating leaning up, skin clearing mroe and after sad and also tired. So I woke up 8.40 from 2 or so and like slept till 10.50. Which isn't so bad but is a lot of time, and I was sluggish.

But soon enough I had water and I have ok energy levels. I may take dex, I may try the test cream more... I did take test enanthate on Tuesday, and should take 100mg more on Friday or sat morning rather,
but I may not and just stick to dex. Maybe quit everything and add mineral balancing again soon. That should eliminate depression soon and anxiety will get a lot better and ASD+ADHD (longer/deep set).

I have no doubt carnivore can help a lot too, I think that being too extreme may be hard... but it is worth it. I hope messing up like 2days in 15 or 16 or so isn't a huge deal. But I know 5-6x in 15 is bad.

I am not sure I did that but for a bit I was cheating a lot. And it makes no sense because probably weekly or 2 weeks, I'd be down 5-6lbs each time... and soon enough ripped again.
And more importantly detoxing... and cleaning inside and outside so that mitophagy and autophagy occur. I'd be happier. I hope I am still getting benefits. I think I am for sure.

Stress and hardship is more tolerable, and I am working in my home office more a lot more, not just sitting down on a chair or couch, with laptop. Also, I am casually making some funds but I have to
close and do well. I had way more energy 2018 end --2022. I Think this will help a lot but maybe minerals will help me stick to it. Dex can help too. no coffee like 8-9days or so, and no mustard no nothing,
but I cheated last nite... and then watched a bunch of videos on not cheating. It is hard to believe I will help autism and social anxiety.... all naturally but I believe I can and i really did for a time in 2018 and
it helped a lot going forward. Life plans changed and got hurt... I hope to be on track again.


"He who has a 'Why' can bare any how", Jordan Peterson.
 
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--Oh man.
--I was doing so well maybe 8 or 9 days no coffee, some dex, and no plant foods. And some test cream and test enanthate (I will keep trying test cream... I added test enanthate to maybe up test).
--Mostly, I add the test to see if it helps energy levels, arthritis, and anxiety* and depression*.
--I am sure anxiety* and depression* of PFS (neurosteroid depletion, the trauma , lost opportunities, damage to my life.. and curing and then some setbacks), and ASD (autism and all that, anxiety long term and depression in bad times).
-I am sure that will go with long run carnivore.
--I hope I am not screwing myself over completely or too much with some breaks in carnivore, but I know it isn't ideal.
--I hope TEI makes sticking to it easier and helps me detox a lot.
--I may be off test cream soon enough but I was sticking to carnivore easier on dex, And on test cream... if nothing else just for routine. Even if the test cream doesn't help that much.
--Dex is literally for ADHD and autism and the anxiety, depression there. Test cream is too, and both for sticking to some treatment there and also for PFS. And carnivore is for ASD also and pfs.

--I wish I could tell you guys I did 55-60 days in a row on carnivore but unfortunately I didn't.
--I didn't even like most my cheats and going from nearer to my fat loss/fluid retention loss goals and working out a bit more to instantly rebounding 5-6lbs and then being up 2lbs or so in the am...
--the bloatedness and sick feeling wasn't worth it. Even people in great shape and health, like I was most of after PFS(not initially of course) and I was before that.... and I will be again
--even in that good health, you still will feel sick eating anything crazy like store bought chocolate snacks.. or downing lots of milk (store bought) and IDK some tortilla I had. And one tiny slice of homemade pizza.
--not worth it. Barely was eating, some patties, some prosciutto.

-I don;t know I may lose all medicine and just do carnivore only... I am sure 90d i will be rocking more.. and 120 150days, but I am also sure I can rock more on dex and that. And either way leads to TEI.
--In regards to dropping that and just doing TEI, I want this stuff to work but maybe I am too deficient and filled with too much self doubt and anxiety, that I can't. And i've been too traumatized and hurt.
--and with test cream, well I hope that test cream and dex and carniv starting i can be 40-50% and later 80% and 90% and add tei, lose the test cream.. and be more like 95-99% and pfs cured 100% but
--ASD and depression and anxiety like 80% better, 100% better and 90% better. You know what I mean...Long run things /deep seated things are hard to "cure" and are there potentially forever.
--If I can lose all bad aspects of ASD forever then I would love that, but it would probably take 2yrs carniv straight or 1.5yrs or 8-10mo and like with TEI maybe 4-5months hella progress and insanely better at
--8-10months. And stuff like that.

--Does this make sense bro @RebelWithACause ?
--stick to it,.. keep trying test cream or lose it? I think it helps Anxiety and depression a bit, sexual health a bit.. DEX helps anxiety and depression and I am sure that long run carniv helps (PFS and ASD/trauma)
related anxiety and depression EVEN MORE. AND I am sure TEI does too.
--just force myself to add TEI NOW? It is just a test... to see situation going back 4mo.
--or keep taking test and dex and make this shyt work 31 days 50 days 90 days first .. carnivore. Please help me out man.
 

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Those dudes all look like they are on TRT (at least). The guy on the right injecting higher dosages. But maybe Shawn Baker is natty. Who knows. He looks bigger than most people I know. But some dudes are big naturally.

Most long term natural meat eaters are skinny like the Vietnam Tarzan. Or those tribes. Skinny with some muscles.
 

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Look up the post to see what dexamfetamine wastes and supplement some of that if you use it daily. That's what I would do. But would lower it over time when your own adrenals work properly... I'd use it as a adrenal supplement and treat it as such.
 

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YOU are rite... add minerals if taking a med.. then add the other stuff.
--i was getting stuck bc minerals later anyways but big deal...

--i also had long spiel about that.. ya shawn has the bbing and rowing genes. guy on rite gear but still great genes. guy on left good enuff.
--i keep gains yrs after gear, u have more nuclei. and like ya it got rekt with PFS crash.
--you must have sick leanness genes.. and maybe it is harder to put on muscle than say a shawn baker...
--but you also never get fat most likely, and genes can change.

--those tribes/ ya epigenetic changes.. 2-3 gens of eating can affect.
--like say Hanza tribe or Massai now vs 100-200 yrs ago.
--same with Egypt at end... fat , man boobs... this and that.


--Re: the Carnivore and minerals.
and that is what my plan was but put it this way... after reading his thread more... i can think of like 8 variations of supplements, meds a bit...
--Carniv and nothing
-Carniv and HCG
-Carniv and dht or dht deriv and hcg... or hcg later.
--Carniv and minerals...
--Carniv and dex and replenishment of dex depleted minerals and same with Test cream (test and dht).
--some variation of the above but with Test cream and DHT cream... and HCG
--or the above and HCG after.
--TEI after all those...

--SO carniv --> TEI.
--Carniv--> HCG -->TEI.
--Carniv --> TEST CREAM (bioidentical test cream and dht increase, 8x over injections) + dex + minerals (missing that). + HCG....OR HCG later. AND THEN TEI.
--so I am doing the above minus minerals.

--it sucks having N=1 but yes we are all different.
--and I mean OZEPH TOOK CARNIVORE 5.5 yrs straight nearly or entirely (insane discipline, good fucking job to him), and hella supplements for Insomnia (mostly from PFS maybe he had some anyways).
--THIS man on Moral Medicine (maybe "Dave" or "Dan") did carnivore for PFS and Lithium carbonate.

--so yeah I can take carniv and minerals and electrolytes... or carniv and dex and test cream and minerals...
--and really carniv will be the main healer, except maybe for HCG. FOR overall healing I think carniv is great (hard to stick to if I am being honest, but I just have to have faith and do it for rite reasons).
--Then discipline is easier. Bc the alternative is a hellish life. Where I am up and down ... 95 % cured PFS, sometimes on gear, sometimes this and that... that and autistic burnout, depression, anxiety is too m.
--Anyways I think for total PFS curing... and ASD and hypermobility and anxiety and depression healing --> I think like CARNIVORE ---> TEI.
--but to speed it up and fix NEUROSTEROIDS long run... HCG. Maybe HCG after DHT (maybe on test and dht cream or just test cream which ups dht, test, and estrogen)....
--maybe I do carniv and dex and hcg... and drop test cream or i do HCG and pump LH 4-6months after doing this what im doing for 3-4months.
--then do tei.

--KEEP those gains with TEI.
--keep neurosteroids healthy --> and then endogenous steroid production, with HCG. HCG making tei faster, in the sense that I start it with great sexual health.

--it is possible only TEI does all this. AND possible CARNIV does all this, but you gotta stay on or not deviate like 18mo -2 years (2 yrs is quoted for mitochondrial repair). That is pretty hardcore... but worth it.
--but yeah time and life is short, so use HCG.

--I will add the minerals.
Thanks bro.

-I prolly read it before but I read on Raypeat, you were running 10-15km at the end of your pfs recovery. Goddamn bro. Your lift numbers were insane initially too. IN your first posts.
-- I was jogging like 8-10km sometimes like 11-12 when I was early 20's. I don't think I can do that, unless serious sports rehab and leaner for sure. I can sprint tho, less injurious.
--you probably have great running/ staying lean genes. Whereas this Baker mofo has great rowing and bodybuilding genes...
--but we can always change to a closer shape. You never get fat probably ever. Lucky.

--I feel like... HCG thread on RAYPEAT was good... but I mean, I don't know. "PUMP LH". WHy not recombinant FSH and LH? Why not the LH mimetic HCG and also recombinant FSH (very expensive tho).
--I think there's more than 2 cases ... maybe many.

--I did great with DHT and yet anavar, yrs later is kind of wack... sarms are better (and are more dangerous).
--site was down/ my copying and pasting screwed up servers. ill stick to carniv, may supplement what these meds deplete, may stay on dex... and test cream + then get to HCG, or add HCG sooner than later.
--maybe HCG is better without test, but that doesn't make a ton of sense.. it is fine, lots begin HRT with HCG now. --but i get it, I don't have "low t", I have some PFS situation.
--HCG soon i think and then TEI.
--I think optimal health if i just did pure strict carnivore but I am only human and I mean even if i make 1mo 2mo straight... i mean, IDK it is hard to keep it pure entirely.
--I haven't had coffee in 10-11days maybe, and I can do it all with no meds, but maybe some meds are good. I actually don't feel too bad without dex, but just like healing in 2018 was easier with a stim/a few.
--it is easier now... easier to stay on carnivore prolly and on tei.
--I was thinking b1 b2 b6 (thiamine/ for autism) and Mg... -- that helps joints... and also u need mg with dex. but a bite of food possibly does a lot of this but not the Mg so much.
--also I don't want plant material in the supplements! but how insane do I want to be about this.
--i think HCG, any decent diet --> and then TEI would do well PFS wise. and help anxiety and depression maybe eventually cure the latter and for sure PFS.
--to make life as best as it can be with ASD/ADHD, and also HSD (Autism, ADHD, hypermobility spectrum), but mostly with Autism I guess.. and remove social anxiety and all that.. and be alpha...
--I think that carnivore is the way, then lockin gains and do things it can't do healing wise, with TEI.
 

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If you grew up around hard working ppl you'd realize what 100-120 hr work weeks do to people.. that's why Chaffee doesn't look 27-30. He looks his age, he looks great.

Also, Ajonus or whatever didn't do carnivore rite.

Ev1 on here basically thinks they have the secret key for health, when in reality most are talking nonsense. I just want a routine... to follow, and I have one. And it will improve.

@ruprmurdoch anyone can get one retarded study published. Most people think IGG tests are scams.. given by "functional medicine doctors". Toxiplasmosis is high in some countries like Brazil and at times France, making people more likely to engage in risky sexual behaviors. Getting it from meat seems magnitudes less likely than from a cat. Also my meat is the most expensive there can be basically, and otherwise, it is one of the cities in the world with the best meat. Like in North America and the west (better than all of them or it was before the WEF and globalists took over).
 
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I'm pretty sure this dude was raised by wolves and not people. He had severe mental distress. He lived in a cave. He had no modern gym (among other actual real problems).

Dude he had no mom or dad,..or anything you can't compare him to someone in modern society. He was raised by animals only. AND epigenetics... and probably developmentally challenged that is why they left him in the forest, I am willing to bet. Which is horrible.

Maybe his parents were vegan/ vegetarian and they left him in the jungle because they wouldn't accept him eating meat.

Skinniness aside, I bet he could fuck up most people. He was feral.


PIGS when you take em out the farm and throw em back into the marshlands or the forest, maybe the grasslands... they regrow tusks. They become feral.

We are 1 great recession/ nuclear accident/ angry tweet away from half the world going feral.

Many of our grandkids will be trying to go to Space.

DO THE RIGHT THING AND BUY DOGE FOR YOUR GRANDKIDS.
DOGE is sleighted to be the currency on the moon!!! Many experts agree.

I think Baker's an outlier man...great at his sports, great at lifting, and naturally strong and huge. And also a surgeon. He is a top tier man. No homo.

--Fructose= fatty liver diabetes fatty liver. break down in liver, same byproducts as ethanol. damages same area of brain as meth. this is interesting, and no nutrition studies by kellogs and vegan indoctrinated types (most) won't show this. brain imaging does. check out anthony chaffee or studies... on google scholar. I won't post em bc i am focusing on me and i am chilling.
 
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Baker did lie about leaving carnivore perhaps... Had too high Ferritin, and supposedly, navigated towards adding a bit of carbs. As per a friend. Not sure if they are talking trash, but they used to follow Baker a lot years ago. I don't feel so bad about eating some carbs at least. I mean nothing makes me crash. I am just trying to rip up pre adding the main gym, so I can make some sick investments and trades, work on that, and strategy, and add the gym,... in a chilled manner. Like add, the main lifts I am missing then. Also I need the neurosteroidal support, and I am trying to get ketamine, etc.
More on my log.
 

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Pretty sure Sean Baker is on TRT and plays around before taking bloodwork. He had high ferritin? Makes sense. He ate little dairy pretty sure which has calcium which opposes the iron. Only meat long term I don't get it how he can do it. Maybe if you have high calcium already.
 

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Yeah he prolly ain't carnivore only. He is a large man for sure. And yeah, iron rich food and genetics, and sure androgens can do that. I still like him a lot, and "get it", if he must protect business interests and not reveal his exact dietary changes. I still like him more than most people and definitely food influencers. most people are just shoving soy and leftist cum down their mouths. The soyboy Trudeau ilk. Those mofos.
 
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Should just tell the truth. Just like Saladino. He's a likable guy for sure. I like the Snake Diet guy better personally if I have to choose one of them. Dude is not stuck in "carnivore" or vegan or Ray Peat, etc. Just looks at results (fat loss). But even he is wrong about stuff. Most people I see on YouTube incl. Peat and some of these other people don't have the full picture. This forum was ahead of it's time. At least in the current diet sphere.
 

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Semi failed... but I mean I will keep trying. Often 85-90 95% carnivore. I have done 100% but barely 2 weeks. There are too many visitors to my house and they like to eat tasty foods (I can't take anymore betrayal!!).

I will focus on steaks. And collecting salt.

I got a soda stream and finally started using a Breville Espresso Machine. It is pretty good.
I love my Breville Smart Jouelle (Or Joulle, Jouelle IDK. I know there's an energy measurement, but I think it is spelt differently than that).

Salt, steaks.

Ocassional homemade saurekraut.
Among very important work and career things, I will make sure I get a raw dairy connection.

And only buy alpha eggs for food (from birds).

Keto is more sustainable. Some hot sauce and herbs aren't so bad and yet I'm coughing and sick. Someone else was sick though. Also I sleep in the day time at times... so yeah that's not good.

I will make some steaks. Also a nice dehydrating rack (very affordable maybe 16 dollars or something), from Kitchenaid has been good.

I will order more meat. Meat... is what you need to live the life that you deserve.

I like cheese tho and hot sauce. But yeah it can lead to chocolate and bread... most my cheats were good. I ate pizza like 2x-3x in last 6mo, and like zero for 2 yrs, then gluten and lactose free pizza I ordered, after being more disabled, and after being screwed in business, towards end of the pandemic, and movement disorder (when I couldn't walk etc).

I am dealing with a lot of pain, so want to be strict with carnivore but maybe 95% strict is pretty good enough.