--Bing AI, why did the Dutch grow so tall in recent years, was meat involved?
diet and hereditary/nat seln.
--Meat, and milk and cheese and other stuff. heritability, lots of stuff showed up. I can't paste here all the time, it doesn't always work (errors or formatting).
--russians, icelandic ppl, super tall.. meat. ARAB, muslim conquerors -- meat.
--> spanish to mexico ? meat.
--> the native canadians/ aboriginals that are 6'2 and perfect hair? meat.
--> cereal, etc didn't exist till recently.
THEY just made veg oil illegal. Russia's lower life expectancy isn't from meat, that doesn't even make sense. It is from dangerous jobs, smoking, self destruction, alcoholism, and STRESS. acc to research.
HELEN says that is just a sterotype.
INDIANS not eating meat is a stereotype. I literally wear XL shirts and L shirts and have thick wrists bones calfs etc... from in part (not only that) meat.
ZERO asthma 99% of 5-6 yrs after fasting and tei. 95 percent reduced in mid late 20's. 90 percent reduced since 20-21. I got fitter every decade. and ate more restrictive/experimented.
as a kid? horrendous asthma, overweight, exzcema etc. I consider standard diets to be child abuse.
those improvements were coincidental not gotten from any guru.
Hard to verify but it could be discussed, with essays if I wanted. Cultural trauma = Russia, Ukraine have lower life expectancy. So many men lost in WW2. AND after effects of USSR (It wasn't all good. Most young russians like putin for sure, but speaking with communists/socialists in the west they gloss over massive death tolls and the culture of fear and oppression).
I am quite sure birth rates will continue to decline and death rates will go up in America, Canada, Japan, South Korea. From culturally carrying various stresses. Pandemic and after effects for sure.
India? years of theft and colonization by the British Empire. It is estimated 25-50 trillion USD was stolen. They literally made workers eat and get paid in grains and stop eating meat.
Same with slaves in America, of African and other descent. It was only 1-2 percent of people holding slaves, but still.
Fasting is anti aging, not all health is encapsulated by looks. Literally tons of docs recommend their patients to fast and it has saved tons of lives, diabetes, heart disease etc. Even bodybuilders fast to get lean (not a shitty diet, and supposedly good genes a lot of them). I literally owned 99% of the gym, doing like 81 dips, right after doing 99 chinups, and then 8-10 other exercises including leg press (not a high weight but) say 450-500lbs 45-55x straight.. with fasting. NO way in hell I could do that eating like normal people (not sure anyone who works out like that eats "normal").
Fasted training gives people superior results and eating in a timed window post workout. Not just ppl with health issues. I seemed healthier than ev1 around me (good looking young downtown people) in 2020 2021 2022 2019. Fasting if nothing else, gives you superior discipline. There are hundreds of millions or at least tens of millions of people and thousands of studies that disagree with your claims, with biology to show it. It is being used in neurobiological models for animals, for many modalities of health, including longevity. I was kinda joking about Bryan Johnson but you can look up his relative aging to others in that competition.
Fasting kept me and countless people built lean 18-29. Diet got better every year,.. I could work and study 2-3 days straight and gain muscle and lose fat with it... And I only used PEDS like several months of that. I had loose skin surgery, less than half a pound removed. I lost that weight at 16-18. Fasting tightened it up, it stimulates GH, is the enemy of insulin resistance (i.e. makes you insulin sensitive), and kept me youthful, and making better diet choices. Trust me most ppl don't cut out gluten at 19-20, alcohol in their early 20's, I am beyond disciplined most of life. Only in severe depression or when I was really sick did it ever slip (and when I had some shitty influences at times at say 19-21, and effexor). Even with daily coke use 3-4 years almost, I looked younger and better than my friends and ppl my age.
It was diet and exercise and fasted training, avoiding shitty food.
That is why PFS was so troubling, destroys that hard work that is engrained in me. Losing ten lbs I will be more ripped than most 20-30 year olds again, it is from decades of fasting and some genes (I have good and some bad, I changed my outcomes tho, through repeated actions and behaviors and it became me). This isn't me bragging, I am saying that I am proud of what I've overcome and achieved but to say fasting only helps people with bad diets is insane. A lot of people get good diets because of fasting and changing their relationship with food. People can use it to quit substances too.
IF someone looks old or is bad looking, it is because of their behaviors, genetics, and random chance, and environment etc.. It isn't cuz of fasting or carnivore or whatever.
Anyone intune with themselves can tell in a day or 2, at most like 5-7 days if something is making them unhealthy, unless it is something like a medication syndrome.
I can tolerate pizza gluten and cheese and eat it once in a while and with a lot of hard work still be ripped. Nearly 5x less hardwork and avoiding it, I can stay ripped 2 or 3 years after working out.
I really doubt that could be true without fasting. it isn't like me not to workout a lot but things happened in lockdown and pandemic and I have injuries too. In mid and late 20s sometimes I only worked out 4mo cuz of university (I was doing grad classes and undergrad to catch up), and I commuted. And yeah I kept muscle all year but looked better when i lifted those 4 mo.
Not changing diet and routines and approach to LBM acquisition, and maintainance and fat loss, this would never happen. Fasting/ intermittent fasting solves 80 percent of that fo me.
Untrained, barely any calories I just did 45 pushups straight. I used to do 200 at times. But I could get there again. Well I mean in sets. like 200-400. Max in a set after randro/4andro and HUGE was 66 or something. Max leaner was like 70-80+. Chinups 25 straight... max training?? way more. WITH multiple meals?? I wouldn't have worked on this shyt for 16 yrs lol. People are a bit different for sure, I know me. And others should know themselves. IF some health ppl online help others make a difference in their life, then who cares?
Clearly there's demands unmet by the medical community, social circles, and communities people have if they are looking to others. And there's nothing wrong with that. I argued against dogmatism since my early days on Hackstasis. Everyone has to start somewhere. If someone needs a diet model and they follow vegan or carnivore (the right way), their health could very well (and often does improve). Fine tuning and finding out something that they can stick to and modifying as needed, is up to them.
All those docs I listed seem to be helping people judging from hundreds of comments. If you want to scam the health system there are far better ways. Removing your patient base and putting yourself out of a job is rarely financially lucrative. It is for Saladino but he doesn't need medicine anymore and he probably practiced for like one week. I can see him bouncing off walls and looking greyer eating tons of carbs. Losing his intense exercise, he's gaining fat and looking less defined for sure. Then people will say he looks older, when really 6months of being healthy and intuned with what works best for him, he will look great again. Sugar literally has drug like effects, similar to cocaine. This isn't me being brainwashed, this is me being a former science user, sugar addict as a kid, and former cocaine user. I can actually understand the vast majority of studies out there, I don't think most people here can. And still I am not perfect, because I doubt and don't understand all the mineral stuff. No one does.
Talking to docs or scientists about it... maybe 10-100 ppl in a city ever do shit like that. Maybe more, but you'd have to really find them in some other health circle like yoga or a natural healt food/community store. Bacteria, fungi, pathogens made me addicted to sugar and gluten (literally reaching for straight brown sugar) and drinking to die, in crash state of PFS at home. I was like that except ordering food, and barely able to stand upright and think or watch anything in crash in my apartment. Brain and body were hijacked pre fasting. IN normal health, or even now?? I could eat 10-15 cookies, gain a few lbs for a couple days and be sad but I won't continue being extremely brain damaged. To be optimal, people require sacrifice. You don't see what others go through. You're probably better than your friend with great genes and that can eat like whatever and pack on muscle, in other ways. And who the fuck knows, people are getting sick all the time now.
If you control diet and exercise... you reduce the chances enormously. However one must be vigilant of other things like meds. Long term fasting makes me and many more prone to efficient metabolism, better regulated moods, more stable mentally, and can kill fat cells (apoptosis) and shrink them (I am sure it can, and I have read studies indicating that). I did it before there were studies.
Mark my words tons of healthy and should be healthy people will be getting sick for the durations of our lives. Some of the ills of late stage capitalism and big tech.
Bill gates owns most the farmland, Blackrock will own most of the rentals in the west and land... they really don't give a fuck about our or anyone's health.
If it saves the gov't pensions, they'd be glad people work 50-60 years, retire barely a year and die. The world is a cruel place.
All my Punjabi friends on the uni basketball team, wrestling team, etc, into sports a lot... didn't eat like their parents and if they did a bit they had hella milk and meat. I only got that strong in mid and late 20s tho I was getting there at 18... but effexor derailed that till 21-22. INDIA has 25 percent diabetes rate and it isn't all genes (there's near none in my family for young ppl none at least). America 9 percent.
PURE vegetarian seems pretty bad with some people's genetics. HADZA tribe and MASAI?? one of em is all 6'4, look young, and meat only.
BRAIN expansion?? MEAT.
Brain regression after advent of agriculture? grains.
WHY did US pay and give slaves grains, and similar to plantation workers in India, by the British Empire?? It is slave food.
I was joking about religion and stuff earlier, but literally genocides have happened when ruining the soil's ability to make grains. Cannibalism too.
ACCORDING TO NEUROSURGEONS, and UROLOGISTS (who only deal with diabetes these days), endocrinologists, Sugar is indeed a drug. Same with people that study biological function.
I am talking about dietary sugar, not the 4g total you need in blood to live. It literally is a drug, ever have an iced coffee with tons of sugar. Saying that as someone who did countless times. I don't just say random shit, and I'm quite intelligent. What drug caused the most deaths worldwide?? Sugar.
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Lastly, EVEN in the gay community it is well known TOPS ate beef and steaks. BOTTOMS ate varied diets and lots of bread and cereal.
KIDS should eat beef rite after breastfeeding. Beef and eggs. Once a day. Post strength training. Ideally.
During the height of the AIDS epidemic in the 1980's, "Bread Boys", as they would colloquially be known as "would take one for the team", and clean up in orgies, so that AIDS wouldn't be given to the
POWER TOPS, during the yearly "FEAST OF THE ASSES".