Bulletproof Gut Protocol - Questions, Comments, Experiences

[Ben123]

Sorry to chime in but @Helen do you think tetracyclines are effective against SIBO ?

 

[Canari]

The thread is long now... Can you add in the OP WHEN to take it? My guess is "1st thing in the morning"? (after drinking properly) EDIT yes found the information in the middle of the 18 pages.... see all the quotes below!

I have received all the ingredients now and I have taken the 1st drink, with no issue 2 hours later, so I am ready to eat now!

The problem is when you have too many things to take 1st thing!!!! I love my olive oil + lemon juice, so now the question is... When do I take it?
Can I take this now? @Ocguy

 

[Admiral]

Chucked the first drink this morning. Taste wasn't even that bad;

 

[Canari]

@Ocguy Here is all I found in 18 pages, that could help if included in the op

I got tired from the scan, so I do not check nor reorder anything! Just the raw material!

@Ocguy if we get a probiotic in a capsule, do you think we could just chug half the mason jar down, then swallow the capsule, then chug the rest down?

Yea, that's ok

Orac value just means antioxidants.. some good gut microbes like polyphenols... it gives the drink an added kick

Yes I'm familiar with nemecheck.. it's very basic.. pretty much just inulin, omega 3

This protocol is much more comprehensive.. youre getting 2 major resistant starches.. rs1 and rs2

FOS in this protocol IS inulin.. u can also use GOS, like bimuno,

You won't react to the gut drink, I promise
. You won't be feeding the microbes in the upper gi.. that's why it's mixed all together, sure they might munch on it but they'll be stuck to it like flypaper.. leave the gut drink out for an hour, you'll see what I mean.. it's turns into slime.
Use the berry flavor green powder it tastes way better with the drink, and yea the high orac is what supercharges the feeding on the lower colon.. don't need to overthink this.

Yea exactly, the slime won't let u absorb any of the greens.. it's just food for the biome.. you wont react.

after you do the protocol for a few months you won't have any problem with greens on their own either..

The best probiotic that DOESN'T need refrigeration is Jarrodophilus capsules, the are enteric coated (hardshell) and break open in the colon(won't die in your stomach acid).. plus they are stable in room temp.. I prefer powder with this protocol cuz it sticks to the goo.. but jarrow makes an excellent probiotic for the reasons I mention and will be fine with the drink.. just swallow it at the same time

https://www.amazon.com/Jarrow-Formulas-Jarro-Dophilus-Supports-Intestinal/dp/B0013OUKTS

Sorry I missed this.. I prefer bimuno (GOS)
but people do fine with (fos)

Oh for sure, cabbage juice will speed it up but just backing off will do it, and of course keep feeding your microbiome with the drink.. that's why we use psyllium powder and not the husk.. that can be harsh

Yea, its ok, they both provide the fiber and swell up, but get the powder after u run out. The powder is 2x more insoluble fiber per serving

Raw potato starch is even higher in resistant starch than green banana flour if you can get that instead

How long this banana / potato needs to dry out before making it into powder / flour ?

If there is no special technology involved, then all that could be easily achieved at home in no time: cut the potatoes, dried them out in any dehydrator then throw the pieces into blender making them on flour ...

Have u tried all the shopping sites?
Ebay, jet.com , amazon , iherb?

You can try Hi maze, legume, potato flours.. I would be careful with potato flour, one guy had his gut tested after using it in the drink and he had less diversity, I can't remember the specifics, but green banana powder is best, unless u want to add a little bit of all just to be safe.. but obviously if u can't even get banana deliverd, might be an issue..

I wouldn't take it after a meal.. it might be too much to handle.. I usually do it an hour or two before food, or just an empty stomach in general

Cut the dose In half and work up to it..

Candida, sibo for sure, I had severe mold toxicity and the drink pulled me out of it.

Post dut I was crashing and didn't even know it. I bought a house in 2011 and there was a tiny but of mold, nothing major but my system was so fucked, I ended up getting severe mold toxicity, I did ozone, charcoal, bentonite clay, tons of herbal antifungals, antibacterials with little relief... also I had severe pain in a few teeth that had to be pulled.. the dentist put me on two rounds of clindamycon.. during the height of my mold issues (which I didn't know at the time) my gut was literally decimated.. I couldn't eat anything without burping all day.. not to mention the stools were fucked.. little pieces of food, mucous, candida , I wasn't digesting anything

for 3 years I suffered endlessly, ginger tea would help, but I literally spent the whole day trying to fix my gut with protocols. . Within two weeks of starting this protocol the 24/7 burping was gone, I stayed on it for a few months, i still hop on every so often. . But my gut is now stronger than its ever been, even before I got sick.. it saved me, and many others i've introduced to it

I've run out of probiotics and just did the starch for a bit, that's fine too. Most people benefit from a multi strain probiotics but by all means tinker with it. As helen
posted a major component to this is scraping the small bowel, and the starches will do this just the same along with providing adequate feeding of the colon

Yea, I wouldn't take fos by itself with sibo. But again, when you take the psyllium and banana flour together you are binding them and eventually eliminating them.. so even if they are getting fed in the small bowel now, it's something that will lessen as they get removed..

OK, NOTHING ABSORBED?

@bobin keep us updated on that! Interested to know if it comes back or not. I also noticed stiff joints - knees aching when walking & almost like arthritis in one foot. That stopped after I stopped the stuff.
Maybe chelating something, or the iron content like Helen says might be a factor

Can we drop the amazing grass or sub it, the antioxidants blend had caffeine and gives me migraines

@Ocguy - trying this again with this powder: Vitamin Shoppe
Seems to be just wheatgrass. Think this would be appropriate?

Yea, it looks good. Go slow if u have to, keep us posted. Hope ur system handles it better

they have the same brand of just wheat grass that OCguy mentions for his green powder at whole foods and amazon. I saw it at whole foods today, it contains wheat grass only
https://www.amazon.com/Amazing-Grass-Organic-Wheat-Powder/dp/B00112IM56/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=K4H2ZXVG75U1&keywords=organic+wheatgrass+powder&qid=1564541219&s=gateway&sprefix=organic+wheatgra,aps,139&sr=8-1-spons&th=1

this protocol does not have wheatgrass, it has green powder thing. which is liver detox. things to . make more bile.
like brocolli ,spinach, etc.quercetin. plus enzymes.
but also has chelating agents. and heavy iron content. and tetrapyrolles. so could be hard for some people. but overall heavy chelating combo.

IS THIS TALK ABOUT TAKING IT ALONE? I THOUGHT IT WAS NOT ABSORBED!
MY IRON IS THROUGH THE ROOF AND I AM SUPOSED TO STAY LOW IN IRON INTAKE! tHEY EVEN TOLD ME TO NOT TAKE LICORICE BECAUSE OF IRON CONTENT!

From what I understand antioxidants help anaerobic bacteria grow, which is what bifido is primarily comprised of.
I'm not sure of the Orac value of straight wheat grass vs the amazing greens powder but considering wheat grass is the primary ingredient I'm assuming it's still a viable alternative to people sensitive to all the other ingredients

 

[Admiral]

Only question I have is whether you absorb the stuff you eat or supplement well enough while on this protocol? For instance I take TEI supps as well.

 

[Canari]

I wonder if so called genetics which you inherit from your mom. is just the bacteria which you get from her. and then you have similar diseases.

lets say your mom has staph infection. boom you get it and then you are autistic. since none of your other flora grows properly when you are a baby. there is always some flora imbalance, causing some oxidation problems..

this is why the balancing of the flora and the need for the flora is so tricky. and even questionable still. Since in my opinion flora is supportive, means supports some of the lacks of your metabolism.

My mom had staph in her teeth and it caused her heart issues too, and I have Asperger's!

In the GAPS diet originally made for autism, correcting gut flora is an essential part.
But taking fermented food when you have SIBO.... does not push the bugs into the colon. This is why I like this post and protocol so much!

 

[Ocguy]

The thread is long now... Can you add in the OP WHEN to take it? My guess is "1st thing in the morning"? (after drinking properly) EDIT yes found the information in the middle of the 18 pages.... see all the quotes below!

I have received all the ingredients now and I have taken the 1st drink, with no issue 2 hours later, so I am ready to eat now!

The problem is when you have too many things to take 1st thing!!!! I love my olive oil + lemon juice, so now the question is... When do I take it?
Can I take this now? @Ocguy

U can take it at anytime, roughly an hour before anything else if u choose to eat..

 

[Ocguy]

Only question I have is whether you absorb the stuff you eat or supplement well enough while on this protocol? For instance I take TEI supps as well.

Well, it seems like the amazing grass green powder is absorbed based on some people getting a bad reaction to some of the ingredients. I don't think it's as much as taking it alone though.. when I take it alone my grey lessens alot, when I take it with the starches it doesnt.. this is unscientific obviously, but worth noting.. some is obviously getting thru even with all the resistant starch mingled in

 

[Aleksandr]

Ok i'm almost out of supplements. its been about a month so i'm going to order another months worth. I'm gonna swap up the inulin (FOS) for this product (XOS) Now Foods, Prebiotic Bifido Boost Powder, 3 oz (85 g)

I wanted to get a GOS instead, but doesn't look like iherb australia stocks it (theres one product but its out of stock atm).



Still got some probiotics left over to last another round.


After this round i'll take a break and see if theres any snap back / if it sticks

 

[Admiral]

I think it's the caffeine, but it's making my sleep worse. Will alter and move around with the second dose a bit or just skip the second one.

 

[JasonSky]

@Ocguy

So I got all the necessary stuff now. My question is do you think I can incorporate all the ingredients in my daily protein smoothie that I usually have in the morning anyway(Some frozen fruit with vegetable based protein powder & some spinach & almond milk + water) . Or shall I just down the drink separate?

 

[Ocguy]

@Ocguy

So I got all the necessary stuff now. My question is do you think I can incorporate all the ingredients in my daily protein smoothie that I usually have in the morning anyway(Some frozen fruit with vegetable based protein powder & some spinach & almond milk + water) . Or shall I just down the drink separate?

I think it'll be way to thick if u do that, would need a shovel.. just go separate, wait half hour or so in between , or longer

 

[JasonSky]

I think it'll be way to thick if u do that, would need a shovel.. just go separate, wait half hour or so in between , or longer

Yeah that was my concern as well, I think I'll have the gut drink first then go about my morning routine then have my food like 30 minutes later. Thanks for the input.

 

[Canari]

I feel really ok with it, but for sure it needs to go down ALONE and not with food! Or else you do not get the scraping and taking all the bacterias along the way!

And think about the stomch acid searching for the food in this glue!

 

[Admiral]

Digestive aids okay while running this protocol?

 

[Ocguy]

Digestive aids okay while running this protocol?

Go easy on them, as u detox the system the goal is to not need them, tudca is ok though

 

[JasonSky]

@Ocguy

Ok so this morning I made it, I don't know if I fucked up or what. But I made it in a blender instead of a mason jar and the drink expanded into like this jello-like substance. I know it is supposed to be somewhat gelatinous, but like wtf how are you supposed to actually drink it? It was an entire cup of a jello sludge.

Maybe if I just mixed it in the jar and then downed it real fast before it became slime like that would work? Do you have any thoughts or advice on the matter lol.

 

[raven]

@Ocguy

Ok so this morning I made it, I don't know if I fucked up or what. But I made it in a blender instead of a mason jar and the drink expanded into like this jello-like substance. I know it is supposed to be somewhat gelatinous, but like wtf how are you supposed to actually drink it? It was an entire cup of a jello sludge.

Maybe if I just mixed it in the jar and then downed it real fast before it became slime like that would work? Do you have any thoughts or advice on the matter lol.

I find that if I leave the psyllium in water too long the whole thing just becomes a sludge, so add the psyllium last, also its quite easy to do just shaking in a jar or stirring with a spoon so maybe no need to blend

 

[bruschi11]

@Ocguy

Ok so this morning I made it, I don't know if I fucked up or what. But I made it in a blender instead of a mason jar and the drink expanded into like this jello-like substance. I know it is supposed to be somewhat gelatinous, but like wtf how are you supposed to actually drink it? It was an entire cup of a jello sludge.

Maybe if I just mixed it in the jar and then downed it real fast before it became slime like that would work? Do you have any thoughts or advice on the matter lol.

No blender no way. Like raven says it becomes a sludge and u have no chance of getting it down. Once it gets mixed you need to get that thing down within 30 secs to a minute.

 

[Ocguy]

@Ocguy

Ok so this morning I made it, I don't know if I fucked up or what. But I made it in a blender instead of a mason jar and the drink expanded into like this jello-like substance. I know it is supposed to be somewhat gelatinous, but like wtf how are you supposed to actually drink it? It was an entire cup of a jello sludge.

Maybe if I just mixed it in the jar and then downed it real fast before it became slime like that would work? Do you have any thoughts or advice on the matter lol.

Make sure it's a full pint of water, and like everybody else noted, shake it vigorously in a mason jar (or anything with a cap ) and down it