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Helen

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I was a slow oxidizer with high Copper, and 4 lows in Sept. So I did zinc30/mang10/moly100/taurine3000/Carnosine500 for the last four months. Now super bad nighttime back pain kicks in after 4 hours in bed. Used to get it maybe once a year for a day or two. But steady for the last month. I've been doing the zinc finger thing (complete) for a month. Added Lysine and C as of the last week or so. Back was painful, been taking 1 ibfroben400 before bed for a week, hoping when I stop pain will stay down. Noticed months of nighttime wood have weakened major in last week. I'm hoping it's my cold.
So now I will just do Lysine & C for a while? Reintroduce the Histidine, Serine, Aspartic, minerals (in moderation) later?
I will submit for another ARL soon. Hair is as healthy as at 16! (43 now)


yes try lysine with c. But you mixed everything in one pile. Do you have PFS? why are you taking zinc finger?

You have been doing this for a while , stop , it could be way to much for your copper.
 
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I was a slow oxidizer with high Copper, and 4 lows in Sept. So I did zinc30/mang10/moly100/taurine3000/Carnosine500 for the last four months. Now super bad nighttime back pain kicks in after 4 hours in bed. Used to get it maybe once a year for a day or two. But steady for the last month. I've been doing the zinc finger thing (complete) for a month. Added Lysine and C as of the last week or so. Back was painful, been taking 1 ibfroben400 before bed for a week, hoping when I stop pain will stay down. Noticed months of nighttime wood have weakened major in last week. I'm hoping it's my cold.
So now I will just do Lysine & C for a while? Reintroduce the Histidine, Serine, Aspartic, minerals (in moderation) later?
I will submit for another ARL soon. Hair is as healthy as at 16! (43 now)
You see i think 4 lows or even 3 lows might be better treated with just using cronometer and making sure you hit 100% rdis or every nutrient. Seems like we need a big refeed.

Was your hair bad before doing this?
 

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@gbolduev
Do you think Joint pain is coming from low or high copper?

I heard a lot of people have problems after high dosages of zinc but also resveratrol.

And would chelated glycinate copper be good in my case?


yes they can come from low copper. I already wrote to you what I though
 

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I started the zinc finger after the zinc/mang etc. because you said at one time,


"because you will run low on everything. zinc , bs, you will be stuck with NOTHING> since zinc and b6 are needed for histamine and without stomach acid you wont have those. So you will be stuck with pissing the leftovers of histidine and very low metabolism and low histamine. I would assume this is low 4 scenario on the hairtest.

That is why people who want to restore everything, they need to take zinc, folate, bs, histidine. cysteine, serine and zinc finger protocol. otherwise it wont work. You take histidine, you lower folate. you take folate, you lower histidine, you take zinc, you lower histidine. Screwed all over the place."


I was initially suffering from IBS, which is gone now, and CFS, and weakened immunity in general. Things have improved but are clearly in flux.
I will move to Ascorcic acid1000/Lysine2500 for how long I wonder?
 

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I started the zinc finger after the zinc/mang etc. because you said at one time,


"because you will run low on everything. zinc , bs, you will be stuck with NOTHING> since zinc and b6 are needed for histamine and without stomach acid you wont have those. So you will be stuck with pissing the leftovers of histidine and very low metabolism and low histamine. I would assume this is low 4 scenario on the hairtest.

That is why people who want to restore everything, they need to take zinc, folate, bs, histidine. cysteine, serine and zinc finger protocol. otherwise it wont work. You take histidine, you lower folate. you take folate, you lower histidine, you take zinc, you lower histidine. Screwed all over the place."


I was initially suffering from IBS, which is gone now, and CFS, and weakened immunity in general. Things have improved but are clearly in flux.
I will move to Ascorcic acid1000/Lysine2500 for how long I wonder?


yes, but what exactly were you taking?
 

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Yeah but it just sounds weird taking "chelated" copper when I want to get copper out by chelation haha

Even ARL gives copper to slow oxidizers. they give limcomin. It has copper in it.

Try lysine and C , if not good, try lysine C and copper
 

Raincoast

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You see i think 4 lows or even 3 lows might be better treated with just using cronometer and making sure you hit 100% rdis or every nutrient. Seems like we need a big refeed.

Was your hair bad before doing this?
My hairdresser told me she thought my hair had gotten fuller, she paused for a good few seconds looking surprised. Then told me she was starting to wonder about my hair over the last while, but hadn't mentioned it to me. But now that it appeared thickened, she mentioned it. She's been cutting my hair for 20+ years easy, so some merit there.
 

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@Raincoast

I would take a little break from everything, and see what is your baseline.

I mean IBS is gone , CFS is better, hair is good. take a break. it might be ammonia from too many aminos already. if your are taking a ton
 

Raincoast

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yes, but what exactly were you taking?
Was taking,

Zinc Pico 30 (4months)
Mang 50 (4 months)
Moly 100 (4 months)
Carnosine 500 (last 2 months)
Taurine 3000 (4 months)
ActiveFolate (for a month at first)
Low dose B1,B2,B3 (4 months)
B5 few times a week (2 months)
methyl selenium 200 (4 months)
Boron 3 (4 months)
Electrolytes in chloride form homemade (2 months)
Brewers yeast (1 month)
Histidine,Serine,Aspartic Acid (last month)
Lysine & C (last couple weeks)
Some Shilajit or Fulvic minerals (4 months)
And spinach, rice, good protein.

Haircut tonight, so I'll bag it.
 

Helen

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Was taking,

Zinc Pico 30 (4months)
Mang 50 (4 months)
Moly 100 (4 months)
Carnosine 500 (last 2 months)
Taurine 3000 (4 months)
ActiveFolate (for a month at first)
Low dose B1,B2,B3 (4 months)
B5 few times a week (2 months)
methyl selenium 200 (4 months)
Boron 3 (4 months)
Electrolytes in chloride form homemade (2 months)
Brewers yeast (1 month)
Histidine,Serine,Aspartic Acid (last month)
Lysine & C (last couple weeks)
Some Shilajit or Fulvic minerals (4 months)
And spinach, rice, good protein.

Haircut tonight, so I'll bag it.


Try to take away histidine aspartic and leave the lysine.
 

Raincoast

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Easy, is this a long term thing, or stop?

My father has been doing the Linus Pauling thing for years, for hardening of his arteries, he is convinced that IV chelation and the Lysine & C has kept him alive, he had ultrasound images before treatment, 80% blockages. Then a substantial improvement. If you can believe imaging. He's 75, looks great, but hurts all over. He's also vegan for like 30 years now, drinks too much red wine, rides his bike everywhere, and no fat. It started out in 1984 with him fasting at Dr,Scotts Fasting clinic in Ohio. He also swears by fasting, but does not do it. It cures him of IBS at al back in the day. He can digest wood basically, his digestion is amazing.


I was going to tell him to add histidine, he has frequent sneeze attacks.

What's your advice? He likes brewers yeast, nuts. Natural Hygiene was his thing.
And that's how they raised us.

R
 

Helen

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just drop zinc finger stuff, drop everything that made you feel bad. zinc finger is not 3 amino acids, it is cysteine histidine and zinc. we are still trying to come up with the protocol. for it,. people should not take it, it is for PFS really. the protocol had all amino acids in it. not just 3. Plus people felt good on the actual zinc finger,

Drop zinc finger and see , if you still feel bad, then stop everything. for a short while and let your body balance itself
 
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Even ARL gives copper to slow oxidizers. they give limcomin. It has copper in it.

Try lysine and C , if not good, try lysine C and copper


What amounts of vitamin C recommended daily? Seeing from 2grams to 10grams suggested on various sites, Pauling, etc...
 

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just drop zinc finger stuff, drop everything that made you feel bad. zinc finger is not 3 amino acids, it is cysteine histidine and zinc. we are still trying to come up with the protocol. for it,. people should not take it, it is for PFS really. the protocol had all amino acids in it. not just 3. Plus people felt good on the actual zinc finger,

Drop zinc finger and see , if you still feel bad, then stop everything. for a short while and let your body balance itself

@gbolduev What do you think causes leaky gut, yeast/fungus/mold overgrowth infection and what is the solution for these ''conditions''?
 

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how do I order a hair analysis from trace elements? can't seem to find a link.