MNK's Log. PSSD Recov 12-18mo 10', PFS recov 11m-16mo 18’. hEDS/AuDHD/Markets.

[MNK99]

02.17.2018:
-diet: spinach with some protein per each meal (1-2 meals a day at night/ intermittent fasting).
-Ate spinach, olive oil, ginger, snap peas, green beans, tomato, beets, and had 36gp in smoked salmon, and 2 soft boiled eggs (14gp).
And added gelatin to some coffee (barely any coffee... less than when I was like 16). 12gp = 62+ grams of protein and 800+ calories, medium fat, all carbs from veg. More later tonight. --> GREAT DIET THIS ENTIRE TIME minus like 10 days and in extreme anxiety+depression+suicidality pre-fasting. PLus drank then. Aug 12.2018
later tonite 1.30am - some more spinach, rice tiny bit of meatballs, and some ginger, garlic, and olive oil, tiny portion of cooked salmon. +gelatin/coffee Like 1400-1500 cals, and 95gp total or so.

-some beef meatballs and spinach... at late nite. so like 1750 1800 cals. Then more the next day (joey's tuna salad - got sauce by accident).

-I ate early today like 6pm but usually 8pm or 9pm-1am. It's odd, but I was doing this for years before PFS -- and I want to restructure towards my old effective schedule.
-For me: Intermittent Fasting 18-20 hours a day allowed for saving time (less cooking and eating), more satiated by a large meal or 2, better fitness results when timed around workouts, and better cognition and focus during the day than breakfast-lunch-dinner or 5 meals a day.
-->CALS COMING BACK slowly... eating half or less. Like 30-40% of what I should... or more like 50 bc I need to be careful not to get fat.
02.20.2018:
-Just a note on calories:
I can adjust cals downwards before back up.
-had like 1800 cals, 2400 cals, 1300 cals = 5500 cals/3 nights = 1833 cals. Have less, like 1400 or so. Until I can eat without water retention and digestion issues.

Post-refeeding.
-Later I will dissolve ~25mg of ellaone (ulipristal) in 200ml of water and take 20% per day (a 5 day trial).
-Later I will add the betaine HCL, and electrolytes to each of my nightly meals (possibly digestive enzymes as well).
-Eventual workout diet will change a bit as I add more protein and workout more,
-Nothing or only protein 20-30g in the morning or aftn, preworkout half a banana, maybe citrulline mallate, and stim. Banana or similar fast-utilized carb. Workout.
-And then wait an hour or so then slam whey protein (high pro, low carb), and then for 2nd meal:
Some carbs like sweet potatoes, yams, rice with protein (meat: beef, lamb, chicken, or salmon or tuna) and spinach post workout (not there yet, can't eat all that).

Eventually getting back to old structure/agenda:
-My old schedule was just to get ready: magnesium, coffee, stim, possibly a vegan protein shake, - work/study, and come back/ workout, then eat [high protein, high fat, medium-low carbs depending on fat loss or LBM increase phases]. After adding LBM back, if I want to cut or go extreme, I will do Alternate Day Fasting for a few weeks to a month. I am trying to get back to old mindset bc it worked for me mostly well (left something to be desired tho). I like TICKTICK + GoogleKeep (agendas).
-The $100 Million Productivity Tip

Summary of Treatments:
(new date):
-trial. Ella.
-dose.
-completion.
-effects.

(new date):
-trial. R-andro. And electrolyte. And supps.
-dose.
-completion.
-effects.

(new date):
-trial. RU486.
-dose.
-completion.
-effects.
-progress percentage.
-add/md... I don't think this part will go away. But I can manage it better. --> MANAGING somewhat. GOOD... --> AS OF JUNE? and better JULY... AUGUST/2018.
(new date): - trial... .. dose.. completion...

 

[snowball]

You can explore B6 as well

I'll probably buy some prami or cabergoline as well, bc research indicates the stimulants I have on hand do not lower prolactin unlike those.

 

[snowball]

Hey man. Do you mean use B6 to stop prolactin sides? Or to avoid crashing (I seem fine there, but I'll err on the side of caution and won't act to "invite it")? Or as a stimulant?

As an anti-prolactin supplement. My suggestion is to explore this option too based on other forum posts and studies as B6 might be safer.

 

[MNK99]

Nice. I see a lot of results on Google, may read some studies later. Don't think B6 will hurt me but I do worry about methylation issues some have. I may have too. As long as I don't get "methylated" B vitamins, that should be safe right? I have heard of some getting very very sick with B vitamins (probably had unknown methylation issues).
This could be a very good idea man. A non-drug prolactin inhibitor. And cheap too, with less shipping time.
-I'll look into it, would be nice to stay drug-free (even if I had no pfs, I would only use what I know works and never try anything new barring new problems but now not even that).

B6 for prolactin supression - Steroidology
B6 for prolactin supression

Dec 19, 2012 - Vitamin B6 is a surprisingly effective prolactin inhibitor that is extremely cheap and safe: One human study showed a single 300mg dosage of B6 exerts ***8216;a hypothalamic dopaminergic effect***8217; which causes a ***8216;significant decrease of plasma prolactin***8217;(1); Another found that ...

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-Sidenote: takes 21 days to make or break a habit. Probably longer for me for a lot of them (so keep working on that, just keep the streak up).

 

[tanedout]

Decent news.
I had an endocrinologist appointment for April 18th, but I asked to be called in case someone cancelled. I got an appointment for tomorrow.
-Does anyone know what I should say? I just want a prescription of RU486. How can I explain that I have persistent finasteride side effects in the least possible words, without looking crazy?
-I'm usually pretty good with doctors -- and I do my own thing, and they trust me. This has not been the case here with PFS. If I got an RU script it would legitimize that part of my plan and make it easier to begin it. I'm really only good with nice/understanding doctors, otherwise I kind of just never go back again.
-Months ago, Aztec told me he was just honest and all that and he had a really nice doctor. I could try that... but I don't know.
-Are there specific studies I can show her? Emails to my doctor back home?

-Also in case she asks if I see the family doctor that referred me to her... I'll just say he doesn't have experience with this and suggested that it may be better for me to find a doctor who does, in the interest of time.

-Should I show her pictures where I was in good shape in Jan 2017 and looked half-dead in June 2017?

Have you got high cortisol? Getting is prescribed for Cushings disease type symptoms is probably most likely, although I remember one of the other guys getting a prescription from an understanding doctor after explaining his PFS situation, and basically wanting it to reduce cortisol and progesterone I think. I guess it depends on how easygoing the endo is!

Mifepristone - Wikipedia

 

[tanedout]

In fact, this could be a better bet..

Mifepristone Accelerates HPA Axis Recovery in Secondary Adrenal Insufficiency

Here's a study showing restoration in HPA after 6 months of 600mg of ru486 a day. She has secondary adrenal insufficiency due to adrenalectomy. One of a few studies I have read showing this stuff can treat HPA dysfunctions through upregulation of the HPA

Mifepristone aka ru486 Cures HPA

 

[MNK99]

Prev Message:
-I don't think it was tested or I didn't get the result. I think it was on my requisition but they didn't test it for some reason (it was only to be tested once anyways).
-I do have high Progesterone, SHBG, Prolactin; Low Estradiol (or kind of low), Low FSH.
--> RESPONSE TO TANEDOUT
-I was thinking about a study showing this. This one in particular. Thanks @tanedout.
-I could probably have benefitted from ru486 before fin, listening to the studies that are in my favor.

 

[MNK99]

1. Doctor's Appointment:

I went to the endocrinologist. She has not heard of this condition basically, but believes me. I explained some of what we're trying to do here at Hackstasis (and that improvements are happening much faster than in previous 15 years or so, for this and PSSD, PAS). There's promise.

I mentioned fasting, androsterone, ru486, ellaone, and hair testing.
(She has seen thyroid issues with accutane). And she has only ever used finasteride in far older men with prostate cancer or BPH.
She won't give script - dissapointed. I'll get online.

@IHateFin @tanedout. Mifepristone Accelerates HPA Axis Recovery in Secondary Adrenal Insufficiency
-I find out medrx24 and other place are fine.

I need some vodka / J.k. Or "coffee". Or horse tranquilizers.

2. Minor Update:

-Antsy, hyper, a bit agitated. Good with people (and short with others). Flirted with several women, but I'm in and out and lost at most places I'm at (usually too). Then dealing with bs on the phone (bureaucracy).
-RUNNING AROUND A LOT, like an ELECTRON. More ADD, coming back.... over weeks and weeks... good and bad but 1billion percent happy to be self again.
-Still need: KCl(cheap), ru(pain in the ass - getting people to look into it), and ARL test(got someone -will get after buying ru).
-diet: 2250 cals max (maybe 2000), 165g+ protein, 70g carbs or so, 130g+ fat or so). Possibly too much protein and all ... but I feel good (a bit after eating). May not be best for digestion. Less tmro.
-spinach, arugula, snap peas, garlic, olive oil, a lot of extra lean beef. Betaine HCL 3 pills, gelatin just a bit in an iced coffee. I'll drop the HCL and or gelatin if it's too soon. I don't think gelatin is bad unless too much protein/cals. Not taking the other parts of electrolyte protocol just yet.

-tmro: diet- Super light meal at night. Thurs: Spinach, arugula, peas, and some eggs like 3-4. 600-800 cals. I'm not sure why I was so hungry yesterday. Actually ate like 1400 cals thurs feb 22. All clean except a tiny bit of a chocolate chip cookie - spat it out tho.

Felt v bad stomach wise. May not eat 23rd. Feel sick. I have some important appointments in the next week and I can't be sick to my stomach during them.
-Key: ***Eat very carefully, zero supplements.*** Just spinach, some veg, and some protein.

-testing soon: bioavailable testosterone*, ACTH, 24h cortisol. TSH if I ask.
-Also urology scans (later).

My life has been very Kafkaesque. I'll fight this and then move on to more important battles.
-->Then it's back to "retribution mode".

 

[MNK99]

Stop jerking man. Let yourself heal. Don't circlejerk yourself into a valley.
No need to "test it", it still works. I know it's tempting. Still have only done 45 days nofap max (years ago). Back when they said "hypersexual" is a "problem". Actually that can be a problem too (self-degradation, STI's, AIDs, some disgruntled boyfriend wanting to mess a person up --- even though their partner cheated).

Well the opposite problem isn't good either. Wait... what were we talking about again?

Edit: Very nice @stupidfreak. Now it looks like I was talking to myself above. Well-played lol.

Prev msg:
I know man, this isn't the jerking log.
PM me, друг.

 

[stupidfreak]

Lol im dumb it was supposed to be private message lol

 

[stupidfreak]

We need ones once we get good

 

[bruschi11]

lol

 

[joekool]

Very good info and detailed. I'm definitely seeing some ups and downs from the community, but I see more ups!

Gonna take time, but we're off to a great start for 2018

 

[MNK99]

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-Some Diet Entries:
@joekool thanks man. I'll update more later.
Fri Feb 23rd. 2018: -Diet: 4 eggs, 70% of the yolks, several egg whites, spinach, kale, arugula, tomato, olive oil, butter, sea salt, snap peas. Some beef meatballs + spinach, small amt of potatoes and some peas - pretty good but kind of fell apart at the end. 1500 cals with snacks. 70gp or so. too tired to be accurate.

Sat Feb 24th, 2018:
-Diet: Spinach, snap peas, tomatoes (3), cooked chicken breast, 3 eggs, ginger, garlic, olive oil, and butter. 1100 cals/45 gp. Snack later. 9.45pm. 1600cals/85gp.
-PFS: Prioritize getting the hairtest + buy 2ru for now*. ---Feb 25 2.40am. *Proper update after morning Mar 2nd*. Cont simple electrolytes after that. wait 2-3 wks ru.

Sun Feb 25th, 2018: -Diet: 1 large meal 8.30 same and breuss.

Mon Feb 26th, 2018: -Diet: 2 burgers large,veg some dumplings kinda bad but ok.

Tues Feb 27th, 2018:
diet: 1250-1300 cals mostly chicken, turkey, eggs olive oil, butter, spinach, arugula, tomato, garlic, ginger. (hot sauce --- probably bad). 80gp, 50gfat, 30gc. Still with no
-add beet juice for fatigue and calories. 1500cals total.

Weds Feb 28th, 2018: diet: 1100 cals/ 60gp ? I dk whatever. 1500cals/80gp.

Thurs Mar 1, 2018:
diet:-spinach, ginger, garlic, peppers, tomato, chicken 300cals. 15gp. Ate at 4.30pm was very tired before. -400-500g turkey (skillet - garlic and ginger, pepper); spinach + arugula (like 400g, 800g) + 4 tomatoes + olive oil, butter. 1200+... vegan chips. NO MORE pecans etc... --> WATCH GARLIC etc. -no more yogurt / zero dairy.

Fri Mar 2nd 2018:
-Spinach, Arugula, Snap peas, tomatoes, olive oil + garlic + ginger + pepper flakes + oregano; paired with chicken or beef.
-May eat early... ideally not. -Zero dairy, zero nuts. Zero fruits, no snacks. Don't eat early its for fatties. I cooked 12.35pm now just make/buy meat later.
-2 beef burgers no bread. 2500 cals/180gp or so. Overcooked the veggie hotpot. -->Too much fat. No more beef, keep messing up.
-Sat Mar 3rd 2018: -Just get a protein shake tomorrow. At night no other food.
-Same with Sunday ideally. No meat, no eggs, just whey. I'm really full at time of wr. -Like 900 cals. Clean, clean, shady.
-chicken roasted some, some bone broth, some salad the usual. -A tiny bit of coke zero and some pomegranate juice. And some vegan chips (no gluten, not many cals, not many carbs).

-Sun Mar 4th 2018: -1500-1600 cals max. lots protein, 48gfat, carbs -same always.

-Mon Mar 5th 2018: -1700 cals or so. Same always v clean at this point.
-supps: all of electrolyte protocol minus KCl, but I will stop some of it bc it messes up digestion, causes some weight gain, constipation, and bloated feeling.

Reminder list:
-21st day of refeeding Sunday Feb 25th. Enough - beginning e (u). -Memo/life: Some excellent stuff is coming. Rem tests, bnk, inv x2, and wr. Do it. At 40% go in.
-#0. Get rdy. #1. find dirn go to lab. #2. go tsf. #3. buy groceries. #4. workout. #5. study mkt. -sleep early.

Remember!!! go to R, and tsf. Change a-type later. And then labs!!! haircut-barber, soon. -dry cleaner, detergent, soup. deterg-chk, bnk check both. Did not get in mkt yet in either eq nor altcn. -be honest with my doc about any antiprog med or randro and such. -Fix comp get a haircut look like a stoner you hippy! AND taking care of random errands .

 

[MNK99]

Feb 27th 2018:

-Trial: Ellaone (Ulipristal)
-Duration: 3 days (02.25.2018 to 02.27.2018).
-Dose: 21-25mg over 3 days i.e. (7-8.33mg per day).
-Results: Better energy and mood. A bit more "up" and not super agitated either, nor is it nervous energy.
-I look forward to trialling ru and am working on that now. I took ~ 3 to 5mg ella about a week ago.
-Less double vision and increased framerate.

The recent dosing wasn't really on purpose, I drank too much of the water solution I prepared.
I've sent payment for ru-486 as well (2). Add electrolytes during snapback phase.

 

[brix]

I think LTRs are easier than short term. If they like you, it doesn’t matter. My gf thinks I’m crazy and does not see that I’m losing my hair even though it’s everywhere.

 

[MNK99]

Ah it's all a pain in the ass.
Everyone's so shallow and narcissistic and I think it depends on the personality. Used to have no relationships, then flings only... then nothing again. Not trying right now with PFS, until some other more important things are dealt with (career stuff)... but I think LTR's are easier in smaller cities. Maybe bc I was born in one compared to where I was most of the last decade. Mostly if you can get short term relationships, then there's a chance at LTR somewhere in them... maybe. But, just going for LTR is really hard when everything is so fake. I see through people too much, and also I'm difficult to read. Also it's hard to trust anyone.

I think somewhere in my early to mid 20's I gave up on a "normal life" with a wife and kids, and a dog and all that. I'm always going to be fighting something or someone.
I don't mean that in a negative/pessimistic way, I just think its how some people are. How they were raised or their experiences in formative years. I take my joys where I can. I've seen people divorced, married since high school, people married who cheat, people that stay together who should split -- at the end of the day, if the ends justify the means... whatever's clever. I used to "fall in love" quite quickly. I get to know people very fast - but there's always an issue (they're taken, or moving, or I'm moving, or school or work). I think that stopped in my mid to late twenties - I just saw attraction and things more logically. Or so I thought. I see my friends who are players and it's all transactional. I think LTR's are good though, because two is stronger than one, and three's stronger than two. ("About a Boy" - Nick Hornby).

My best friend told me he was in love and wanted to get married. I thought he was joking or he had lost his mind... he did end up getting married and I'm happy for him, but it was very random. This was a few years ago. Salud.

-my next update will be more uplifting! I'll try not to be so "anti-love".

 

[MNK99]

Mar 3rd 2018 (Saturday):
-Trial: Ellaone (Ulipristal)
-Duration: 4 days (02.28.2018 to 03.03.2018).
-Dose: 30mg over 4 days i.e. (7.5mg per day). 50-55mg total in the last 7 days. 60mg in 2 weeks or so?
-Results: Better energy and mood. Better with people, despite being pretty annoyed (rightfully so) at times.
-Socially: I've spoken to a few of my close friends lately. I was avoiding them for some time. It must be due to the ella. And I do want to see them (we're mostly in different countries right now). I definitely have less social anxiety as well.
-Emotionally/mentally:
-Also I was emotionally dead for a while (moreso than usually) bc of that hair drug. I feel more angry with what has happened and also with people that anger me.
Also typical daily annoyances, annoy me again. That's a long list haha. This is good, bc I'm more myself. High-strung and wired again. It helps getting things done at least though is not perfect. I want to keep personality and improve upon it to my norm... so I'll wait if I must for the ru, r-andro, and something I think is more important than all of them long-run.
-Sexual side effects: -It did help libido and erectile quality. As did the next step.
-Completion: Today at 11am. I'll see about long-term effects in the upcoming weeks.
-Other stress:
-On edge/ kind of stressed about other things outside of my control. Trying to keep other parties "happy", or at least off my case and otherwise occupied.
-At least most medical stuff is out of the way (finding a doctor, testing, explaining things, waiting in line there, et al). And I have all supplies nearly.
-I have major stress going on, and can see I didn't need the mood stabilizer mostly. I do change my mind a lot -- and can go back to normal relatively quickly, more consistent with ADHD than a mood disorder. But, Lamotrigine did make my overall mood better. It isn't worth losing hair and feeling less confident. Confident, being moody, and aloof...
and stressed out but successful is better for me, I guess. -2 weeks of a great mood and then using finasteride because of it... was a huge mistake.

-I'll wait ~2 weeks or more to take ru486.
-Sent in bioavail test, ACTH. Sent in a.m. cortisol and 24h cortisol tests, this morning. I am done testing for now and will update those (ARL, endo tests) in near future.
-Also I'm pretty sure my cortisol will be lower than usual as I was on ella daily for a week. So what I wanted the endo to see, will not be seen. I'll let them know I was on this.
-Light jog -- intervals. Asthma is bad. Will just try weights for a while.

 

[K8668B]

"anti love" . lol i feel the same way at times! hahaha.

glad youre finally trying the ella. seems to be giving you energy!

 

[MNK99]

It's hard not to be that way @K8668B with all those conniving skanks and douchebags running around free. Not that I'm a saint.
Yes I think it does give me more energy. I feel more myself which is nice, but I want to jump to the next level asap.